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I want to talk about this hand

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 108 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 13.81, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 424)
BB: 106.8 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
UTG: 113.2 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 24)
MP: 89 BB (VPIP: 28.02, PFR: 20.49, 3Bet Preflop: 8.78, Hands: 795)
CO: 521.2 BB (VPIP: 42.25, PFR: 26.76, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 72)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ac Kd
fold, fold, CO raises to 3.4 BB, Hero raises to 11.2 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.8 BB

Flop : (23.8 BB, 2 players) 9c 5d Tc
CO checks, Hero checks
I've whiten the results cause it's the flop I want to talk about.
What do you think the best approach on a board like this vs a player like this?
Checking back or betting?? And the reasoning behind it?


When you are trying to figure out what to do against any opponent then vpip/pfr gives you half the puzzle. A quarter comes from previous actions and the last quarter from his levels of aggression.
John and I talked a lot about aggression levels and how players of different levels can be expected to respond.
So when I see the high vpip I know he's loose. Ergo he probably calls 3bets wider than normal. You also don't run up 500+bb stacks unless you are either pretty good or very lucky.
For me looking in from the outside here I can't comment on the likely best line because I'd need to know several things.
Is he loose passive or loose aggressive and how often does he call 3bets, how often does he fold to cbets on both flop and turn and what is his wtsd% to give me an indication of how sticky he is.
When you know all these factors you should have a fairly good idea as to how to proceed.
It's then common sense, if they rarely fold to 3bets you can range them wider. If they don't fold to cbets and have a high wtsd% (>28%) then trying to bluff them is pointless.
When you are oop with just overcards and your 3bet and cbet gets called then you are usually behind and should be giving up most of the time unless they hardly ever to to showdown.
Against lags like this you should often check a lot to avoid giving them too much information.
He's playing too many hands, he has to get rid of his junk either by folding bluffing or showing down. He's relying on you to give him a steer, so keep your sizings and cbet frequencies consistent.
On this lowish flop it favours his range, we can't rep much other than overpairs. I'm usually not betting here.
 
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The CC phone App freezes up on me regularly. I didnt know if the post was sent for over 5 mins. Getting microphone and webcam fixed tomorrow.There was a skype sweat group associated to John A and the polished poker thread
I've added Alucard, if anyone else wants in let me know. John sweats with us for free on Tuesdays about 2000 hrs GMT. That's basically an hours free coaching with a Pro who has lived and breathed the game for 20 years and knows stats, ranges and equity as well as anyone.
 
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I'd love to join but Tuesdays at 2000 GMT means I'm working when the session is on which is a drag. How much discussion is there outside of the main sweat?
 
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Thanks fig!And thanks for the great analysis guys!
I'll share my thoughts later on.


This bugger is super aggro. All his sizings are 3/4 or close to pot. I don't think he's a good player but aggression seems to pay out.
 
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The CC phone app freezes up on me regularly. I didnt know if the post was sent for over 5 mins. Getting microphone and webcam fixed tomorrow.There was a skype sweat group associated to John A and the polished poker thread
I've added Alucard, if anyone else wants in let me know. John sweats with us for free on Tuesdays about 2000 hrs GMT. That's basically an hours free coaching with a Pro who has lived and breathed the game for 20 years and knows stats, ranges and equity as well as anyone.



If possible, count me in!!!


Thanks <3
 
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A bit tight reg. UTG is a aggro opponent

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 100.4 BB
SB: 142.4 BB (VPIP: 23.20, PFR: 18.40, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 129)
BB: 109.4 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 18.16, 3Bet Preflop: 4.98, Hands: 1,605)
UTG: 81.8 BB (VPIP: 28.42, PFR: 20.62, 3Bet Preflop: 9.91, Hands: 860)
MP: 146.6 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.22, 3Bet Preflop: 6.55, Hands: 2,789)
CO: 119.6 BB (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 19.30, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 120)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kc Ks
UTG raises to 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 12 BB, MP calls 12 BB

Flop : (49.4 BB, 3 players) 3d Ac 4d
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn : (49.4 BB, 3 players) 6s
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River : (49.4 BB, 3 players) As
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 12 BB, fold, MP raises to 47.4 BB,
 
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A bit tight reg. UTG is a aggro opponent

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 100.4 BB
SB: 142.4 BB (VPIP: 23.20, PFR: 18.40, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 129)
BB: 109.4 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 18.16, 3Bet Preflop: 4.98, Hands: 1,605)
UTG: 81.8 BB (VPIP: 28.42, PFR: 20.62, 3Bet Preflop: 9.91, Hands: 860)
MP: 146.6 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.22, 3Bet Preflop: 6.55, Hands: 2,789)
CO: 119.6 BB (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 19.30, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 120)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kc Ks
UTG raises to 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 12 BB, MP calls 12 BB

Flop : (49.4 BB, 3 players) 3d Ac 4d
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn : (49.4 BB, 3 players) 6s
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River : (49.4 BB, 3 players) As
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 12 BB, fold, MP raises to 47.4 BB,

MY thoughts:
Very small bet on the river, looks extremely weak,I thinkt thats the reason why he raised you.
I check the river back, and If I go for value bet there I bet bigger. This looks too obvious I guess :saint:
 
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A bit tight reg. UTG is a aggro opponent

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 100.4 BB
SB: 142.4 BB (VPIP: 23.20, PFR: 18.40, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 129)
BB: 109.4 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 18.16, 3Bet Preflop: 4.98, Hands: 1,605)
UTG: 81.8 BB (VPIP: 28.42, PFR: 20.62, 3Bet Preflop: 9.91, Hands: 860)
MP: 146.6 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.22, 3Bet Preflop: 6.55, Hands: 2,789)
CO: 119.6 BB (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 19.30, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 120)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kc Ks
UTG raises to 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 12 BB, MP calls 12 BB

Flop : (49.4 BB, 3 players) 3d Ac 4d
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn : (49.4 BB, 3 players) 6s
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River : (49.4 BB, 3 players) As
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 12 BB, fold, MP raises to 47.4 BB,

Yeah I find this quite an interesting hand.
My gut feeling is that this is a bluff.
I do see some boats with hands like a3 a4 a6 which don't bet flop and turn but why he would not be betting the river? If he has a value hand on the end he should bet because you have shown every inclination to just check the hand down.
Your sizing is correct to get value from 88 through QQ. It doesn't make any sense to turn those hands into a bluff as they have showdown value.
If you had an ace you would have bet one of the flop or turn for value so he knows you are relatively weak.The fact he just calls pre widens his range somewhat he will have plenty of junk to turn into bluffs here.
 
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Fold to 3betpf = 60%, raise flop - 0, AF=1

Is the flop a check back?? I feel as so

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 37 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 235.8 BB (VPIP: 28.45, PFR: 11.13, 3Bet Preflop: 2.55, Hands: 589)
UTG: 140.2 BB (VPIP: 38.81, PFR: 11.19, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 138)
MP: 177.2 BB (VPIP: 27.89, PFR: 23.13, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 154)
CO: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 24.64, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 71)
Hero (BTN): 138.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Th Td
UTG calls 1 BB, fold, CO raises to 4 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 8 BB

Flop : (26.4 BB, 2 players) Jh 7h 8h
CO checks, Hero bets 12 BB, CO raises to 46.6 BB,
 
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Well do you want to get blown off your draw? Not really, so yes keep the pot small take the free card and see what happens. All options open.
 
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Serious question. Why would you 3bet PF & what is your intention when you cbet in a 3bet pot??
I'd like answers for
1.when you'd hit hard flop or very likely ahead of V's range
2. when you are on a draw
3. When you completely miss but assumes the V's range has missed as well
4. When you miss & assume V's ahead of you.


And also, what does going more hands to showdown means about your playstyle?


And also something I've noticed some pros do on river is that when they try to get value, they think on a bit about their bluff range to get the V to call the bet. What's your opinion about this & how does it changes your bet sizes?
 
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Good questions. This is what I do, I'm not saying its optimal, take it as you want.
Serious question. Why would you 3bet PF & what is your intention when you cbet in a 3bet pot??
You 3bet either for value or as a bluff.

You cbet for value when you think your opponents will call with draws and weaker made hands.

You 3bet bluff to make players fold because they are opening too many hands or because they fold too much to 3bets overall.

You shouldn't be cbetting as much when you get called when you are bluffing. It was a steal attempt you are allowed to give up, don't feel like you have to win every hand. You can still cbet hands were you have plenty of equity when called.

If you cbet when 3bet bluffing you should have an idea that the player is loose and will fold his weaker holdings to continued pressure or he's a nit that will only call with his very strongest holdings. Barrel harder against players with a low wtsd% (22 or under)

I'd like answers for
1.when you'd hit hard flop or very likely ahead of V's range cbet for value unless you have the board absolutely crushed and you can give free cards to help them catch something.
2. when you are on a draw
cbet weaker draws which have good equity when called but are likely to be hopeless at showdown, easy fold if raised.

Check behind with better draws
which have some showdown value to avoid getting raised and blown off the pot.

Cbet your monster draws, easy GII if raised.

3. When you completely miss but assumes the V's range has missed as well
cbet looser players who fold because they are opening too many hands, barrel if necessary.

Give up versus calling stations and you have little or no showdown value.

4. When you miss & assume V's ahead of you. Give up versus much stronger ranges or players who are calling stations

And also, what does going more hands to showdown means about your playstyle?
It means you aren't folding enough in certain spots, make more definitive plans for the hand on the flop. Stop peeling with hands that need to improve twice and fold them on the flop.
You maybe also be bluffing too much.


And also something I've noticed some pros do on river is that when they try to get value, they think on a bit about their bluff range to get the V to call the bet. What's your opinion about this & how does it changes your bet sizes?
Hesitating usually indicates a player has a decision of somesort. It can mean different things, I'd suggest not reading too much into it, especially online where a player might just be away at another table.
 
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Why hasn't anyone else responded to Alu's questions? Come on you lot, get your thinking caps on...
I like the way you are thinking about the game Alucard.
This is a great way to understand why you are doing what you are doing at the tables.
 
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Funny - normally when there are new posts on this thread I get a notification on my phone. Didn't with Alu's Q's...did with your response Fig. I'll respond.
 
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Serious question. Why would you 3bet PF & what is your intention when you cbet in a 3bet pot??
I'd like answers for
1.when you'd hit hard flop or very likely ahead of V's range- I hope that V catches enough of the flop to continue - but usually to max value it's tough because if the flop hits you hard and you three bet pre, most likely you won't get called. Most times I'm cbetting 2/3

2. when you are on a draw
Depends on the texture - if the board hits my range I'll cbet to rep a hand vs a draw, but if the flop misses I tend to check-raise and rep a high PP. Not always but as a general rule

3. When you completely miss but assumes the V's range has missed as well
Cbet like I had a hand, bet around 2/3 to max my strength. I try and play 3bet pots post flop similar so it's hard to judge whether I hit or not

4. When you miss & assume V's ahead of you.
This is hard to imagine but in these cases I'll still fire because I can't check-fold post flop after three betting pre.

And also, what does going more hands to showdown means about your playstyle?
Could be a couple of things. It might mean that you bluff more on the river and get called; it might mean you think you're behind and you're done putting more money in, only to get checked behind, or it might mean that you're against calling stations more. I've tracked my showdown by session and my min and max per 100 hands is huge. All depends on who your opponents are

And also something I've noticed some pros do on river is that when they try to get value, they think on a bit about their bluff range to get the V to call the bet. What's your opinion about this & how does it changes your bet sizes?

I think at the stakes I play this is a non-issue - most at 2NL to 5NL. It all depends on the board imo - draw heavy boards that miss a smaller bet can get through, bigger bets can look like a bluff and you will get hero called esp at 2NL. I see bigger bets on the river tend to be bluffs more than value, so if I'm going for value I tend to bet big after thinking.



Now I'm going to read Fig's response to see how far off the mark I was :)
 
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10s??? also would you flat here if the SB folded??? I was leaning towards a fold pre but flatted due to SB coming for the rideThought of 4bet sqeezing as well but gave up that thought

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 15 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 204.8 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 23)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 24.88, PFR: 19.35, 3Bet Preflop: 6.49, Hands: 224)
MP: 71 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 87)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jd Js
UTG raises to 2.4 BB, MP raises to 8.6 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 8.2 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB, UTG calls 6.2 BB

Flop : (34.4 BB, 4 players) 7s 5c 3h
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

Turn : (34.4 BB, 4 players) 3c
SB checks, Hero bets 16 BB, UTG calls 16 BB, fold, fold

River : (66.4 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero bets 26.8 BB, UTG raises to 76.8 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 115 BB
 
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 93 BB (VPIP: 32.43, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
Hero (SB): 311.4 BB
BB: 133.4 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: 112.4 BB (VPIP: 25.48, PFR: 21.23, 3Bet Preflop: 3.75, Hands: 703)
MP: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 15.32, PFR: 14.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 111)
CO: 137.4 BB (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 16.36, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 111)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qs Qc
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, BTN calls 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, BB calls 14 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (34.8 BB, 2 players) 5s Js Jc
Hero bets 16 BB, BB raises to 118.4 BB and is all-in,
 
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10s??? also would you flat here if the SB folded??? I was leaning towards a fold pre but flatted due to SB coming for the rideThought of 4bet sqeezing as well but gave up that thought

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 15 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 204.8 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 23)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 24.88, PFR: 19.35, 3Bet Preflop: 6.49, Hands: 224)
MP: 71 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 87)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jd Js
UTG raises to 2.4 BB, MP raises to 8.6 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 8.2 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB, UTG calls 6.2 BB

Flop : (34.4 BB, 4 players) 7s 5c 3h
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

Turn : (34.4 BB, 4 players) 3c
SB checks, Hero bets 16 BB, UTG calls 16 BB, fold, fold

River : (66.4 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero bets 26.8 BB, UTG raises to 76.8 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 115 BB

I think the flat is ok here, utg is relatively wide, MP is unknown so flatting even if SB doesn't come along is fine. You just know JJ oop in a 3bet pot is going to be really difficult unless we hit a J.
I don't think a 4 bet squeeze is terrible, it would clarify matters but we have a decent value hand that wants to take a flop and doesn't want to face a 5bet.
The only thing I do differently is I don't bet the river here. I can see very little that is worse that will call on the river but plenty of overcards ang whiffed spade draws that might try and bluff so its a check call/fold here for me depending on sizing.
Have a quick think about what worse hands are just calling here and your reasons for betting.
 
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 93 BB (VPIP: 32.43, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
Hero (SB): 311.4 BB
BB: 133.4 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: 112.4 BB (VPIP: 25.48, PFR: 21.23, 3Bet Preflop: 3.75, Hands: 703)
MP: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 15.32, PFR: 14.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 111)
CO: 137.4 BB (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 16.36, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 111)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qs Qc
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, BTN calls 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, BB calls 14 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (34.8 BB, 2 players) 5s Js Jc
Hero bets 16 BB, BB raises to 118.4 BB and is all-in,

Yeah in a word nasty.
What is he calling with preflop is I think the key here. Is he cold flatting with 55 or Jx, not very often imo unless its JJ or a strong AJs, but then you shouldn't value shove these hands on the flop. There maybe some KK AA so as not to turn them faceover preflop.
There could be a semi bluff with something like AsKs that could have flatted pre but that is literally 1 combo so yeah just nasty. If you can see a few more flush draws then call otherwise just say wtf and fold.
 
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 101 BB (VPIP: 16.22, PFR: 12.33, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 74)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 24)
BB: 181.6 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 56)
UTG: 73 BB (VPIP: 4.35, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP: 120.2 BB (VPIP: 14.86, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 75)
Hero (CO): 114.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qc Qh
UTG raises to 2.4 BB, MP calls 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN raises to 101 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero??
 
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wtf!!!!

KTo fro almost 200BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 173.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
SB: 55.6 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 527.4 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.02, PFR: 17.37, 3Bet Preflop: 6.95, Hands: 2,591)
MP: 235.2 BB (VPIP: 8.51, PFR: 6.38, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 47)
CO: 126.2 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Th Td
fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, BTN calls 7 BB, SB raises to 55.6 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 527.4 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 165.2 BB and is all-in

Flop : (402 BB, 3 players) Kd 2d Kc

Turn : (402 BB, 3 players) 7h

River : (402 BB, 3 players) Qd

Hero shows Th Td (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)

Main Pot [166.8 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot [235.2 BB]: (Pre 69%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)

BTN shows Tc Ks (Three of a Kind, Kings)

Main Pot [166.8 BB]: (Pre 24%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot [235.2 BB]: (Pre 31%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)

SB mucks Ac Js (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [166.8 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 0.3%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 354.2 BB
BTN wins 223.4 BB
BTN wins 158.6 BB
 
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Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qc Qh
UTG raises to 2.4 BB, MP calls 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN raises to 101 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero??

I would say both are ok, personally I would just fold given tight vpip/pfr and just handle 4bet as a separate case to 3bets you stats are tight further making your hand to look like what it is.
 
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