Alucard's Cash Journal - 5NL to 10NL

[CRStals]

I need to get this clarified to know whether this line is profitable or not.

I usually take this line on a bit dangerous board cause I will usually be call a decent sizing if I checked & the V bets on the river.
But I do fold V's bluff by this so not getting value there. But then again if the V raised, I know I'm beat so easy fold. But if the V bluffs a very big size, he might make me fold better hands cause I wouldn't be calling most of the time.
So what is the profitable option???

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partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 137.8 BB (VPIP: 18.95, PFR: 14.74, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 99)
Hero (SB): 312.6 BB
BB: 105.8 BB (VPIP: 17.77, PFR: 13.32, 3Bet Preflop: 3.99, Hands: 752)
UTG: 121.6 BB (VPIP: 29.76, PFR: 25.30, 3Bet Preflop: 15.15, Hands: 88)
MP: 26.8 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 64.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Th Ah
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 2s As 4c
Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn : (14 BB, 2 players) 7s
Hero checks, BB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River : (34 BB, 2 players) 9h
Hero bets 22 BB, fold

Hero wins 54.4 BB

Ask yourself this:

Let's say your plan was to check-call the river vs betting. At what point do you fold to V's bet?

Personally, not running any numbers but going off of just feel, your river bet feels like it's -EV. You're not getting called by AK, AQ (I think those hands would have taken a different line at some point), and the flush or straight possibilities would raise you on that river. You're not getting worse hands to call - only better.

Check-calling might - might - induce a bet with nothing, 2nd pair, or a weaker ace. I could be way off base but I just feel like your 22BB are either going to the other stack, or you're not getting the information from V by giving them the free river or them betting.

 

[CRStals]

Don't like the hand. Felt like a bluff

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partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 148 BB (VPIP: 22.47, PFR: 19.10, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 90)
SB: 87.4 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (BB): 345.2 BB
UTG: 132.8 BB (VPIP: 20.24, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 88)
MP: 129.2 BB (VPIP: 14.53, PFR: 7.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 175)
CO: 140.6 BB (VPIP: 29.28, PFR: 22.52, 3Bet Preflop: 14.91, Hands: 315)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9s 9h
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop : (4.4 BB, 2 players) Qs 9c 6d
Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn : (10.4 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero bets 8 BB, BTN calls 8 BB

River : (26.4 BB, 2 players) 7d
Hero bets 14 BB, BTN raises to 38.4 BB, fold

BTN wins 76.2 BB

Did you fold because you were scared of giving up $2 or because you felt you were beat? Did your gut tell you it feels like a bluff?

It's a great card to bluff on and that's a big bet on the river - with your hand I'm tempted to go bluff esp with him being 22/19 pre and the min raise pre flop first in, I'm thinking he had a good pre-flop hand, AQ, KK, something like that. KJ, T8, 87, hands like that could show up but my gut is that they had an overpair, two pair, or something like that. I think you were good.

Problem is when we run bad, and we see these situations, we get gun shy to not lose more money. Tough spot. You have a lot of info on them - what were past hands that you had with them - any notes in PT4 on them?

 

[Alucard]

Analysis??

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partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (SB): 197.2 BB
BB: 171.2 BB (VPIP: 27.85, PFR: 16.56, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, Hands: 20,897)
UTG: 126.2 BB (VPIP: 29.28, PFR: 16.36, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 21,876)
MP: 104.2 BB (VPIP: 29.49, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 5.61, Hands: 21,226)
CO: 128.2 BB (VPIP: 29.75, PFR: 17.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.86, Hands: 19,202)
BTN: 92.6 BB (VPIP: 29.13, PFR: 16.24, 3Bet Preflop: 5.62, Hands: 22,040)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qs Qh
UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, CO calls 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 9.6 BB, CO calls 9.6 BB

Flop : (37 BB, 3 players) 9c 8s Jd
Hero checks, UTG bets 17.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 17.6 BB

Turn : (72.2 BB, 2 players) 4h
Hero checks, UTG checks

River : (72.2 BB, 2 players) 7s
Hero checks, UTG bets 34.2 BB, fold

UTG wins 102.8 BB

 

[AlexTheOwl]

Analysis??

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partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (SB): 197.2 BB
BB: 171.2 BB (VPIP: 27.85, PFR: 16.56, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, Hands: 20,897)
UTG: 126.2 BB (VPIP: 29.28, PFR: 16.36, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 21,876)
MP: 104.2 BB (VPIP: 29.49, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 5.61, Hands: 21,226)
CO: 128.2 BB (VPIP: 29.75, PFR: 17.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.86, Hands: 19,202)
BTN: 92.6 BB (VPIP: 29.13, PFR: 16.24, 3Bet Preflop: 5.62, Hands: 22,040)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qs Qh
UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, CO calls 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 9.6 BB, CO calls 9.6 BB

Flop : (37 BB, 3 players) 9c 8s Jd
Hero checks, UTG bets 17.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 17.6 BB

Turn : (72.2 BB, 2 players) 4h
Hero checks, UTG checks

River : (72.2 BB, 2 players) 7s
Hero checks, UTG bets 34.2 BB, fold

UTG wins 102.8 BB

Pre-flop looks fine to me. Re-raise is on the large side, but if these players will call it with weaker hands, the bigger the better.

The weirdly similar stats of everyone on the table all have calling station tendencies (big gap between VPIP and PFR). And do you really have that many hands on everyone? I vaguely remember some comment in a thread about PP stats being wrong for PT4 except for session stats . . .

Why does hero check the flop? Hero has initiative and a favorable flop, but does not have anything close to the nuts. Call is fine I think.

Why does hero check the turn? Pot control is good with just a pair, but so many river cards (A, K, 7) can hurt us, while only the T and the two remaining Q's can help.

What is the villain's range by the river?

Some straights and sets. Not many sets, since villain should have bet them on the turn. Not much QT, given the pre-flop action, and villain should have either bet both streets with that, or bet only the turn, not the river.

Some AT and TT, maybe some KT, though not a lot of KT given pre-flop action.

Maybe some AA or KK, though his range should be capped since he didn't 4-bet pre.

Not much two pair given the pre-flop action.

AJ, maybe some KJ or QJ. Some air, like AK, AQ, KQ.

I think at the start of the river action he's about equally likely to have Jx or Tx. More hands with J survive the pre-flop action than hands with T, but the J on the board is a blocker.
And he's more likely to have air than to have a set or two pair.
I'd bet the river, for thin value, and to discourage big bluffs.

As played, your three checks after raising pre-flop have announced three times that you have either nothing or a weak hand. He doesn't need a straight or a set, or any hand at all, to make that bet. Pot odds are good. Suspiciously good, as though maybe he wants a call. But I'd still call.

 

[Figaroo2]

I think you played this ok. Its a bad flop for a pot where two players have called a 3bet.I
UTG potentially has 77 through AA here so we beat very little once the river 7 makes a straight for TT.
I dont think AK would bet the flop into two players in a 3bet pot
I favour TT or KK. I think a set bets the turn to charge the gutshot draws so I think you made the correct fold...hes looking for a call with his river sizing.

 

[Alucard]

The weirdly similar stats of everyone on the table all have calling station tendencies (big gap between VPIP and PFR). And do you really have that many hands on everyone? I vaguely remember some comment in a thread about PP stats being wrong for PT4 except for session stats . . .

I've posted this on my previous thread. The stats are wrong due to the anonymity.
V is a bit of the nit I think. He hasn't been involved in many pots but has been aggressive on some occasions.
I don't think the board is favourable for us at all.
For one what are the hands that he'd be opening there as a nit & will call a big 3bet? And then will bet into two people in a very wet board after I checked it??
Even if he doesn't have the nuts, any 77+ would beat me. I would've lead if the board wasn't connected but this is a really bad board for us.
His river sizing is def looking for a call as you both said. I don't think he's bluffing
BTW could also have QQ

 

[AlexTheOwl]

V is a bit of the nit I think. He hasn't been involved in many pots but has been aggressive on some occasions.

That changes things somewhat.

I don't think the board is favourable for us at all.

Figaroo agrees with you, but I don't understand this.

There are no flush draws.
If one or more of your opponents are nitty they don't have a lot of tens in their ranges, so there are probably not many straight draws.
If the villains had AA or KK they should have (but might not have) 4-bet pre-flop.

If we give them a range like {77-QQ, AQ+} then 24 combos are a complete miss, 6 have an OESD, and 7 have a gutshot, while only 9 have a set and are ahead.

Add some AJ, AT, KQ, or lower pairs in there, and it only gives us more hands that we are ahead of.

So we have an overpair and a gutshot, and we are ahead of at least thirty-seven combos and behind nine. Or behind twenty-one if we include all the AA's and KK's in the villain's ranges, though I don't think we should. The main point is that I think we are well ahead of any realistically constructed range.

First to act and having raised pre-flop, I'd bet here without hesitation, for value and protection.

For one what are the hands that he'd be opening there as a nit & will call a big 3bet? And then will bet into two people in a very wet board after I checked it?

The flop bet by the villain is not a good sign, but there are quite a few hands that we beat that might bet here. It all depends on just how nitty and passive he is.

By checking we've sent a signal that we may have missed, and there is a good chance the cutoff missed too, as shown in the discussion of the flop above. A bet by the villain with air here makes a lot of sense to me. It's a play I'd make if I were the villain. But Alucard would have a better read on whether that is likely from this particular opponent.

I suspect Alucard 3-bets from the blinds somewhat frequently, and this is 6-max. So AJ seems to me like it might be in the range of hands that would call the 3-bet pre-flop, and would have good reason to bet here after we check.
Again, maybe Alucard knows that the villain is too nitty to have AJ? Although keep in mind on the river that this would also mean he's too nitty to have any T except TT, reducing greatly the likelihood that he has a straight.

And if he does have AT or TT then it's a fine spot for him to semi-bluff.

His river sizing is def looking for a call as you both said. I don't think he's bluffing
BTW could also have QQ

We look like we have nothing or a weak hand. The bet sizing could be looking for a call, or could just feel "big enough" to him. If you know him well enough to say he'd never bluff or bet a J here then that changes things of course!

 

[Figaroo2]

Alex I think you are giving the UTG villian too wide a range here.
The 3bet squeeze from the Sb over an UTG raise is a strong move. Most books and coaches will only tell you to bet like this from the SB with JJ+ and AK. Because you are going to be oop some opponents will call a little wider but generally its going to be 77+. If he's nitty probably only TT+ and AK.
Personally if utg here I might sneak a call with something as weak as AJs but AJos AQos hits the muck here I dont want to be dominated by AK. Im certainly not calling with easily dominated Broadway combos.
As has been pointed out the ranges in these fast poker variants are usually stronger than usual especially from EP as there is so much 3betting and squeezing going on.
On that flop if you were playing me as a fairly typical reg you are basically facing sets, overpairs or AK AQs AJs.
If it were heads up I think we can bet the flop with our gutter to try and fold out the AK but with two players there the chances of a set is doubled and the CO has a lot of 89s 9Ts JTs 88 99 JJ in his range, even more so than UTG.

 

[AlexTheOwl]

Figaroo, do you weigh their ranges away from AA and KK because they didn't 4-bet?

Let's say we don't, though I think we should. I agree that {TT+, AK+} may be realistic for UTG.

Add in AQ and subtract TT and we have another realistic range, one that skews even more heavily in the hero's favor. But let's set that aside.

You are suggesting a much wider range for the CO. He is getting better pot odds to call than UTG and has position, so this makes some sense, though he has already seen three powerful moves in front of him (raise UTG by a nitty player, 3-bet from SB, called 3-bet).
Should we give him something like {66+,ATs+,AJo+,KQ,98s+}?

Including TT in the UTG's range and all combos of AA and KK in both opponent's ranges, the hero has 39% equity here, with 34% equity for the UTG and and 27% for the CO.

Alucard says he doesn't think this board is favorable for us at all, but I can't find realistic ranges for the villains where the hero is not the leader in equity.
I'd still advocate a bet on the flop for value and protection.
You are both thinking players. Am I missing something here?

 

[Alucard]

Hey it was a regular table not a fast forward one.

 

[Alucard]

I'm officially done with zoom for now.
I do want to get better at that type but right now it doesn't help me at improving my game, the mental aspect & of course the bank as well.
I can't be doing this for any longer when it just keeps making my life miserable.
Mentally it is taking a huge toll on me with the bad beats & the variance & huge swings so I'm switching back to regular tables.
Bum hunting with a huge edge of player familiarity is ten times better than the suffocating I went through at zoom.
So might call it quits at pokerstars if the tables doesn't seem that fishy at all & switch to party & 888 & the rest

 

[Alucard]

Thoughts?
V is running 21/14/7 AF = 3 (64 hands)

It felt a lot like a missed flush draw but I folded. Was the turn call going too far??

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partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 107.2 BB (VPIP: 29.01, PFR: 16.01, 3Bet Preflop: 5.24, Hands: 21,672)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.95, PFR: 16.52, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 21,050)
SB: 71.8 BB (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 16.38, 3Bet Preflop: 5.81, Hands: 22,005)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.44, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 5.59, Hands: 21,406)
Hero (UTG): 219.6 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.61, Hands: 22,211)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jh Jd
Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (7.4 BB, 2 players) 4c Qc 8h
Hero bets 4.4 BB, MP raises to 13.2 BB, Hero calls 8.8 BB

Turn : (33.8 BB, 2 players) 5d
Hero checks, MP bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River : (73.8 BB, 2 players) 3d
Hero checks, MP bets 63.8 BB and is all-in,

 

[Alucard]

Bazinga!

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partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.94, PFR: 16.03, 3Bet Preflop: 5.30, Hands: 21,935)
BTN: 100.8 BB (VPIP: 27.84, PFR: 16.47, 3Bet Preflop: 5.97, Hands: 21,294)
Hero (SB): 255.8 BB
BB: 89.2 BB (VPIP: 29.40, PFR: 15.83, 3Bet Preflop: 5.60, Hands: 21,668)
UTG: 231.2 BB (VPIP: 29.68, PFR: 17.19, 3Bet Preflop: 5.89, Hands: 19,374)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.07, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.65, Hands: 22,480)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks Kh
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, UTG raises to 31 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Flop : (63 BB, 2 players) 3h 7d 4c
Hero checks, UTG bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

Turn : (111 BB, 2 players) Jh
Hero checks, UTG bets 40 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

River : (191 BB, 2 players) Kc
Hero checks, UTG bets 136.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 136.2 BB

Hero shows Ks Kh (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)

UTG shows Tc Ad (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 29%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)

Hero wins 443.4 BB

If you ask me why I didn't V bet the river, it's cause of this.

I really thought the V had 10s+ except JJ here so thought to get value. Either he had the goods or he was just barrelling like crazy
V runs 25/22 AF =8

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partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 28.97, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 5.27, Hands: 21,886)
UTG: 117.2 BB (VPIP: 27.87, PFR: 16.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.98, Hands: 21,257)
Hero (CO): 176.6 BB
BTN: 281.8 BB (VPIP: 29.68, PFR: 17.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 19,353)
SB: 167.6 BB (VPIP: 29.11, PFR: 16.30, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 22,433)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jc Js
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.4 BB

Flop : (22.2 BB, 2 players) Tc 2s 4c
Hero checks, BTN bets 15.8 BB, Hero calls 15.8 BB

Turn : (53.8 BB, 2 players) 6d
Hero checks, BTN bets 25.6 BB, Hero calls 25.6 BB

River : (105 BB, 2 players) Jd
Hero all in,fold

 

[fonyas]

Nice player, good luck.

 

[champ_mc99]

Bazinga!

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partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.94, PFR: 16.03, 3Bet Preflop: 5.30, Hands: 21,935)
BTN: 100.8 BB (VPIP: 27.84, PFR: 16.47, 3Bet Preflop: 5.97, Hands: 21,294)
Hero (SB): 255.8 BB
BB: 89.2 BB (VPIP: 29.40, PFR: 15.83, 3Bet Preflop: 5.60, Hands: 21,668)
UTG: 231.2 BB (VPIP: 29.68, PFR: 17.19, 3Bet Preflop: 5.89, Hands: 19,374)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.07, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.65, Hands: 22,480)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks Kh
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, UTG raises to 31 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Flop : (63 BB, 2 players) 3h 7d 4c
Hero checks, UTG bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

Turn : (111 BB, 2 players) Jh
Hero checks, UTG bets 40 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

River : (191 BB, 2 players) Kc
Hero checks, UTG bets 136.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 136.2 BB

Hero shows Ks Kh (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)

UTG shows Tc Ad (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 29%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)

Hero wins 443.4 BB

If you ask me why I didn't V bet the river, it's cause of this.

I really thought the V had 10s+ except JJ here so thought to get value. Either he had the goods or he was just barrelling like crazy
V runs 25/22 AF =8

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partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 28.97, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 5.27, Hands: 21,886)
UTG: 117.2 BB (VPIP: 27.87, PFR: 16.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.98, Hands: 21,257)
Hero (CO): 176.6 BB
BTN: 281.8 BB (VPIP: 29.68, PFR: 17.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 19,353)
SB: 167.6 BB (VPIP: 29.11, PFR: 16.30, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 22,433)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jc Js
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.4 BB

Flop : (22.2 BB, 2 players) Tc 2s 4c
Hero checks, BTN bets 15.8 BB, Hero calls 15.8 BB

Turn : (53.8 BB, 2 players) 6d
Hero checks, BTN bets 25.6 BB, Hero calls 25.6 BB

River : (105 BB, 2 players) Jd
Hero all in,fold

with KK why didnt you re-raise his 4-bet pre-flop - isnt the main goal to try an get an all-in with KK PF?

 

[Alucard]

with KK why didnt you re-raise his 4-bet pre-flop - isnt the main goal to try an get an all-in with KK PF?

we are both deep. Not happy GIIing pre here vs a 4bet. Plus I fold all his bluffs

 

[Alucard]

Leave the rivers to stars

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 167.8 BB (VPIP: 24.82, PFR: 18.78, 3Bet Preflop: 6.92, Hands: 423)
SB: 85.6 BB (VPIP: 36.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 85)
BB: 157.4 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
UTG: 99.6 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 14.58, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 98)
MP: 55.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (CO): 108 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9d 8d
UTG raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 11 BB, UTG calls 10 BB, MP calls 10 BB

Flop : (48.4 BB, 4 players) Td Qd 5d
BB bets 25 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 25 BB

Turn : (98.4 BB, 2 players) 4s
BB bets 47 BB, Hero raises to 71 BB and is all-in, BB calls 24 BB

River : (240.4 BB, 2 players) 4c

BB shows Qs Qh (Full House, Queens full of Fours)
(Pre 78%, Flop 33%, Turn 23%)

Hero shows 9d 8d (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 67%, Turn 77%)

BB wins 230.4 BB

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 405.6 BB
SB: 96.8 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 105.6 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 26)
MP: 108.6 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.61, PFR: 18.32, 3Bet Preflop: 6.36, Hands: 1,464)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 2c 2s
UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.4 BB, SB raises to 7.8 BB, fold, UTG calls 5.4 BB, Hero calls 5.4 BB

Flop : (24.4 BB, 3 players) 2d 8c 5c
SB bets 12 BB, fold, Hero raises to 30 BB, SB raises to 89 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 59 BB

Turn : (202.4 BB, 2 players) 4d

River : (202.4 BB, 2 players) 3d

SB shows As Ac (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 83%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)

Hero shows 2c 2s (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 17%, Flop 86%, Turn 86%)

SB wins 194 BB

Moved most of my action to party. Just some chill sessions at stars to see how I'm doing

 

[duggs]

you cant really complain about people getting there with 23% on the turn man, its just a waste of energy

 

[Alucard]

Analysis

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 163.6 BB (VPIP: 7.41, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
Hero (SB): 339.2 BB
BB: 69.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: 345 BB (VPIP: 23.11, PFR: 18.48, 3Bet Preflop: 7.87, Hands: 219)
MP: 133.2 BB (VPIP: 25.36, PFR: 19.57, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 145)
CO: 132.4 BB (VPIP: 23.92, PFR: 18.58, 3Bet Preflop: 7.10, Hands: 411)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qd Jd
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB

Flop : (21 BB, 2 players) Td 4c Qs
Hero checks, CO bets 10.6 BB, Hero calls 10.6 BB

Turn : (42.2 BB, 2 players) 8d
Hero checks, CO bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

River : (84.2 BB, 2 players) 7h
Hero checks, CO bets 49.2 BB,

Feel like the shove was a bit wrong

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 19.35, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
Hero (BB): 297.6 BB
UTG: 115.4 BB (VPIP: 16.55, PFR: 10.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 142)
MP: 109.6 BB (VPIP: 16.28, PFR: 13.07, 3Bet Preflop: 8.13, Hands: 454)
CO: 138.8 BB (VPIP: 20.75, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.74, Hands: 217)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ad Ah
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, BTN calls 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, CO calls 10.6 BB, BTN calls 10.6 BB

Flop : (39.4 BB, 3 players) As 7h 6s
Hero checks, CO bets 19 BB, fold, Hero calls 19 BB

Turn : (77.4 BB, 2 players) Qs
Hero checks, CO bets 37 BB, Hero raises to 134.8 BB, fold

Hero wins 145.2 BB

 

[Keith_MM]

He has been really aggro on me. In fact the only decent player on that table. I've been hitting him hard as well. There I just felt he had it.
He's either betting an ace or a set or a FD if an ace I felt it was two pair. So made the silliest folds ever.
I'm into Mental Game

look at it from his point of view , you raised pre cbet flop and gave up .....no way is he putting you on an ace so he can value own himself with ace rag there or try and bluff you off the pot

 

[MrSamsa]

I think with the Q of clubs you should barrell on the high side on the turn because if he does have a low flush/set with your range advantage you could have him beat enough % of the time that he calls down the hands that have you beat at a lower value amount than when you call incorrectly allowing you to avoid some tough river spots.

Also with this line I think when the 4th club rolls off you could easily have the best hand against his sets and low flushes giving a profitable call down

All that said i think check calling the turn is good too as well as folding the river as long as you think villian is solid. Any reasonable player should assume that you have an Ace here and aren't folding often making it a great place to jam for value

tough spot but i think both a call and a fold are acceptable here depending purely on player reads/stats

 

[Alucard]

I think with the Q of clubs you should barrell on the high side on the turn because if he does have a low flush/set with your range advantage you could have him beat enough % of the time that he calls down the hands that have you beat at a lower value amount than when you call incorrectly allowing you to avoid some tough river spots.

Also with this line I think when the 4th club rolls off you could easily have the best hand against his sets and low flushes giving a profitable call down

All that said i think check calling the turn is good too as well as folding the river as long as you think villian is solid. Any reasonable player should assume that you have an Ace here and aren't folding often making it a great place to jam for value

tough spot but i think both a call and a fold are acceptable here depending purely on player reads/stats

hey which hand are you talking about???

 

[Alucard]

Couldn't put him on Q9s. But my mistake for not 4betting. Wanted to play post flop instead of gambling pre & this is what happens

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 15.54, PFR: 12.84, 3Bet Preflop: 1.92, Hands: 156)
SB: 106.2 BB (VPIP: 24.53, PFR: 19.50, 3Bet Preflop: 11.29, Hands: 162)
BB: 302 BB (VPIP: 28.81, PFR: 22.03, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 60)
UTG: 209.8 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 101 BB (VPIP: 12.67, PFR: 8.63, 3Bet Preflop: 4.68, Hands: 817)
Hero (CO): 388.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Ad
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB raises to 15 BB, fold, Hero calls 12 BB, fold

Flop : (34 BB, 2 players) Qc 8d Jd
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn : (34 BB, 2 players) Ah
SB checks, Hero bets 16 BB, SB calls 16 BB

River : (66 BB, 2 players) Td
SB bets 33 BB, Hero raises to 118.2 BB, SB calls 42.2 BB and is all-in

Hero shows Kd Ad (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 67%, Flop 52%, Turn 86%)

SB shows 9d Qd (Straight Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 33%, Flop 48%, Turn 14%)

SB wins 207.4 BB

 

[MrSamsa]

The one where you tripped up on the river and he put you all in

 

[MrSamsa]

hey which hand are you talking about???

the good fold or should i jam the river one near the top, sorry this site is a little weird