Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
Thanks for having my back today,Alui appreciate it bratha :beer:
:beer: you would do the same
:beer: you would do the same
Figaroo2
Legend
Bronze Level
AQ v KK in the first hand I hate his shove. As we 3bet and he closed the action then we are uncapped and could easily have AA or QQ. Literally the only hand that might pay him off is exactly AQ. There are very few other Qx hands that 3bet and are strong enough to call the shove. In the hand as played im not sure if im betting the turn. It's not easy to see what worse is going to call such a big turn bet. If i was him with say JJ or TT I'm just folding to any turn bet bigger than 30%-40 pot.
If we check the turn we can bluff catch when he stabs with his 2nd best hands. If he then also bets big on the end we can call or fold depending on the card and pot odds.
So when you bet the turn think about the reasons for betting. If only worse is folding then checking and letting them bluff stab is often the better EV line. I'll go through the other hands during tge day.
If we check the turn we can bluff catch when he stabs with his 2nd best hands. If he then also bets big on the end we can call or fold depending on the card and pot odds.
So when you bet the turn think about the reasons for betting. If only worse is folding then checking and letting them bluff stab is often the better EV line. I'll go through the other hands during tge day.
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
Thanks. Regardless of his actions my actions were wrong. Turn bet was wrong. For some reason I felt him weaker so wanted to aggro. Calling the shove was terrible specially cause it was a snap decision by me.
When I woke up today after the morning session nap this was buzzing in my head. So went through my playlists & found the original. Pretty amazing
When I woke up today after the morning session nap this was buzzing in my head. So went through my playlists & found the original. Pretty amazing
Figaroo2
Legend
Bronze Level
A4os b v b
His click back raise on the flop is interesting. From his stats he's clearly half decent. Normally he's telling you he's got something here. It's either a pot sweetener with a monster or its a probe semi bluff bet to try and extract information about the strength of your hand. This is the point in the hand where you need to formulate your plan. For me I look at how likely my hand is to improve before I decide what to do. Here we have a total whiff with only 3 aces realistically promoting us to a winning hand. I would have folded this hand at this point.
If you are going to raise as a bluff you need to follow it through on the turn and river if necessary. Personally against a player of these stats I think a bluff raise and value looking bet on the turn and river if necessary might work. But your image is very important you need to have been playing quite tight and not to have been caught bluffing recently to give your story some credence. Raising the flop and then not betting again isn't really a viable plan imo. To follow up the flop bluff you needed 50-60% on the turn and leverage probably all in on the river. That should get him off his hand here but it all depends on your image. This is not keeping poker simple though, it's high variance and building big pots with little equity when we are out of position is just silly poker.
His click back raise on the flop is interesting. From his stats he's clearly half decent. Normally he's telling you he's got something here. It's either a pot sweetener with a monster or its a probe semi bluff bet to try and extract information about the strength of your hand. This is the point in the hand where you need to formulate your plan. For me I look at how likely my hand is to improve before I decide what to do. Here we have a total whiff with only 3 aces realistically promoting us to a winning hand. I would have folded this hand at this point.
If you are going to raise as a bluff you need to follow it through on the turn and river if necessary. Personally against a player of these stats I think a bluff raise and value looking bet on the turn and river if necessary might work. But your image is very important you need to have been playing quite tight and not to have been caught bluffing recently to give your story some credence. Raising the flop and then not betting again isn't really a viable plan imo. To follow up the flop bluff you needed 50-60% on the turn and leverage probably all in on the river. That should get him off his hand here but it all depends on your image. This is not keeping poker simple though, it's high variance and building big pots with little equity when we are out of position is just silly poker.
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R
Rational Madman
Legend
Platinum Level
Not enough oomph for me. I like some chill tunes but need a decent slow beat for me.
Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
I present to you the streamer who made 4 FTs on today's stream!
Just won the $215 Thursday Thrill for around 12K!!!
Insane!!
Total winnings for today around 15K
need to get my hands on the Upswing poker tournament masterclass
https://go.twitch.tv/buehlero
Just won the $215 Thursday Thrill for around 12K!!!
Insane!!
Total winnings for today around 15K
need to get my hands on the Upswing poker tournament masterclass
https://go.twitch.tv/buehlero
S
Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
I was watching untill he was HU and then went to make dinner + eat. Really nice to see he took it down. Seems like his stream has taken a boost lately. Making 4 FTs in one day definitely helps!
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
rake race is on & I'm behind!!!
It's very hard to keep up with the 10NLers it seems & I'm only playing 2 5NL tables at once.
So I did a very careless thing of playing 10NL with around 13 buyins,
And I got the same treatment I would get when I try to move up.
Disaster!! It's mostly psychological though.
Overplayed KK and lost one buyin. Then slowly got back up & overbluffed a hand which I should've folded pre & went down again.
Here are those two hands. I always make stupid plays when I try to move up
Net loss of the session - $17.36
Here's the graph.
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Was decimated after that so took a break. Then started the evening 5NL 2 table session.
The start was pretty bad. lost around $7. But then slow & steady started to grind back up.
I would take a deep breath & calm myself whenever I make a bad play. That way I try not to get tilted & focus positively on ahead.
Well that shit worked & I had my most profitable 5NL session. Only 1.5k hands played.
At one table I was up to around 500+BBs!
I'll post the graph. But it the first 1k hands are from the session I had this early morning around 1/2AM I think.
Hands - 1502
BB/100 - 33.68
Net won - $25.29 :bandit:
If not for the 10NL loosing session I would've been flying today. But still ended up in profit.
Now I feel really confident at 5NL. Specially at fast forward player pool at party.
Will move on to regular tables after the rake race. Will have to increase my volume to catch up to top 100 though. Currently at around 160th.
So from next session onward will 3 table.
Regarding the 10NL games, they aren't that different from 5NL. I have noticed that the 3 bet ratio is a bit low though. At least from the session I had compared to 5NL. Some traps here n there from the players as well.
Party roll upto - $142.67
I think it's time to close this thread down. After I reach $150 at party I will start the new thread. Will post the hands from the session in a bit. Got some tasty ones :eating:
It's very hard to keep up with the 10NLers it seems & I'm only playing 2 5NL tables at once.
So I did a very careless thing of playing 10NL with around 13 buyins,
And I got the same treatment I would get when I try to move up.
Disaster!! It's mostly psychological though.
Overplayed KK and lost one buyin. Then slowly got back up & overbluffed a hand which I should've folded pre & went down again.
Here are those two hands. I always make stupid plays when I try to move up
Net loss of the session - $17.36
partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (SB): 122.8 BB
BB: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 327.3 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
MP: 101.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 188 BB (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 76)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kc Kd
fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, MP calls 7.5 BB
Flop : (23 BB, 2 players) 8d 5s 7c
Hero bets 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB
Turn : (55 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, MP bets 39.2 BB, Hero calls 39.2 BB
River : (133.4 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero bets 56.6 BB and is all-in, MP calls 35 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Kc Kd (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 76%, Turn 7%)
MP shows 4d 4c (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 24%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 21.6 BB
MP wins 193.4 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (SB): 122.8 BB
BB: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 327.3 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
MP: 101.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 188 BB (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 76)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kc Kd
fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, MP calls 7.5 BB
Flop : (23 BB, 2 players) 8d 5s 7c
Hero bets 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB
Turn : (55 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, MP bets 39.2 BB, Hero calls 39.2 BB
River : (133.4 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero bets 56.6 BB and is all-in, MP calls 35 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Kc Kd (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 76%, Turn 7%)
MP shows 4d 4c (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 24%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 21.6 BB
MP wins 193.4 BB
partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (BTN): 251.8 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.95, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 44)
BB: 104 BB (VPIP: 27.71, PFR: 22.89, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 84)
UTG: 155.8 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 146 BB (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
CO: 279.9 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qc Jh
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB
Flop : (18.5 BB, 2 players) 3d 4d As
BB bets 5.8 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, BB calls 7.2 BB
Turn : (44.5 BB, 2 players) 9c
BB checks, Hero bets 31 BB, BB calls 31 BB
River : (106.5 BB, 2 players) 9s
BB checks, Hero bets 72.8 BB, BB calls 51 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Qc Jh (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 35%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
BB shows Ad Kc (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 65%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 21.8 BB
BB wins 198.5 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (BTN): 251.8 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.95, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 44)
BB: 104 BB (VPIP: 27.71, PFR: 22.89, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 84)
UTG: 155.8 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 146 BB (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
CO: 279.9 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qc Jh
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB
Flop : (18.5 BB, 2 players) 3d 4d As
BB bets 5.8 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, BB calls 7.2 BB
Turn : (44.5 BB, 2 players) 9c
BB checks, Hero bets 31 BB, BB calls 31 BB
River : (106.5 BB, 2 players) 9s
BB checks, Hero bets 72.8 BB, BB calls 51 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Qc Jh (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 35%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
BB shows Ad Kc (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 65%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 21.8 BB
BB wins 198.5 BB
Here's the graph.
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Was decimated after that so took a break. Then started the evening 5NL 2 table session.
The start was pretty bad. lost around $7. But then slow & steady started to grind back up.
I would take a deep breath & calm myself whenever I make a bad play. That way I try not to get tilted & focus positively on ahead.
Well that shit worked & I had my most profitable 5NL session. Only 1.5k hands played.
At one table I was up to around 500+BBs!
I'll post the graph. But it the first 1k hands are from the session I had this early morning around 1/2AM I think.
Hands - 1502
BB/100 - 33.68
Net won - $25.29 :bandit:
If not for the 10NL loosing session I would've been flying today. But still ended up in profit.
Now I feel really confident at 5NL. Specially at fast forward player pool at party.
Will move on to regular tables after the rake race. Will have to increase my volume to catch up to top 100 though. Currently at around 160th.
So from next session onward will 3 table.
Regarding the 10NL games, they aren't that different from 5NL. I have noticed that the 3 bet ratio is a bit low though. At least from the session I had compared to 5NL. Some traps here n there from the players as well.
Party roll upto - $142.67
I think it's time to close this thread down. After I reach $150 at party I will start the new thread. Will post the hands from the session in a bit. Got some tasty ones :eating:
R
Rational Madman
Legend
Platinum Level
rake race is on & I'm behind!!!
It's very hard to keep up with the 10NLers it seems & I'm only playing 2 5NL tables at once.
So I did a very careless thing of playing 10NL with around 13 buyins,
And I got the same treatment I would get when I try to move up.
Disaster!! It's mostly psychological though.
Overplayed KK and lost one buyin. Then slowly got back up & overbluffed a hand which I should've folded pre & went down again.
Here are those two hands. I always make stupid plays when I try to move up
Net loss of the session - $17.36
partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (SB): 122.8 BB
BB: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 327.3 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
MP: 101.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 188 BB (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 76)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kc Kd
fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, MP calls 7.5 BB
Flop : (23 BB, 2 players) 8d 5s 7c
Hero bets 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB
Turn : (55 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, MP bets 39.2 BB, Hero calls 39.2 BB
River : (133.4 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero bets 56.6 BB and is all-in, MP calls 35 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Kc Kd (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 76%, Turn 7%)
MP shows 4d 4c (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 24%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 21.6 BB
MP wins 193.4 BB
partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (BTN): 251.8 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.95, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 44)
BB: 104 BB (VPIP: 27.71, PFR: 22.89, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 84)
UTG: 155.8 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 146 BB (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
CO: 279.9 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qc Jh
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB
Flop : (18.5 BB, 2 players) 3d 4d As
BB bets 5.8 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, BB calls 7.2 BB
Turn : (44.5 BB, 2 players) 9c
BB checks, Hero bets 31 BB, BB calls 31 BB
River : (106.5 BB, 2 players) 9s
BB checks, Hero bets 72.8 BB, BB calls 51 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Qc Jh (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 35%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
BB shows Ad Kc (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 65%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 21.8 BB
BB wins 198.5 BB
Here's the graph.
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Was decimated after that so took a break. Then started the evening 5NL 2 table session.
The start was pretty bad. lost around $7. But then slow & steady started to grind back up.
I would take a deep breath & calm myself whenever I make a bad play. That way I try not to get tilted & focus positively on ahead.
Well that shit worked & I had my most profitable 5NL session. Only 1.5k hands played.
At one table I was up to around 500+BBs!
I'll post the graph. But it the first 1k hands are from the session I had this early morning around 1/2AM I think.
Hands - 1502
BB/100 - 33.68
Net won - $25.29 :bandit:
If not for the 10NL loosing session I would've been flying today. But still ended up in profit.
Now I feel really confident at 5NL. Specially at fast forward player pool at party.
Will move on to regular tables after the rake race. Will have to increase my volume to catch up to top 100 though. Currently at around 160th.
So from next session onward will 3 table.
Regarding the 10NL games, they aren't that different from 5NL. I have noticed that the 3 bet ratio is a bit low though. At least from the session I had compared to 5NL. Some traps here n there from the players as well.
Party roll upto - $142.67
I think it's time to close this thread down. After I reach $150 at party I will start the new thread. Will post the hands from the session in a bit. Got some tasty ones :eating:
You're telling me that the rewards system of PS is so much more money-hungry than PP and other sites?
Go back to PS, the reason you keep getting red chest is that red chest is for micro-low stakes of poker the other chests are either roulette, blackjack, video poker or a higher stake. Probably there is a chest for omaha specifically and the red relates to holdem.
The color repeating isn't bad, the chests are not upgrades they are differing rewards, you get gold stars and these are for poker rewards, if you are in theri other casino games yoru chest would be different color understand?
Try omaha or holdem at a stake like 25NL+ maybe chest changes color next time you get it and reward is bigger but takes more betting to get.
There is no time pressure with stars, the yellow 'boost' is not time-limited it's point limited and resets every few hours.
party poker does time-pressured rewards always because it knows this will force far more rakeback.
The difference is that PS makes its greed work in ways where you are never forced to make uncomfortable plays, you have unlimited resets of the scratch card is you don't get 90% of them in the 200 hands to win. I got 50 cents instead of 10 cents the other day.
R
Rational Madman
Legend
Platinum Level
rake race is on & I'm behind!!!
It's very hard to keep up with the 10NLers it seems & I'm only playing 2 5NL tables at once.
So I did a very careless thing of playing 10NL with around 13 buyins,
And I got the same treatment I would get when I try to move up.
Disaster!! It's mostly psychological though.
Overplayed KK and lost one buyin. Then slowly got back up & overbluffed a hand which I should've folded pre & went down again.
Here are those two hands. I always make stupid plays when I try to move up
Net loss of the session - $17.36
partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (SB): 122.8 BB
BB: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 327.3 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
MP: 101.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 188 BB (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 76)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kc Kd
fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, MP calls 7.5 BB
Flop : (23 BB, 2 players) 8d 5s 7c
Hero bets 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB
Turn : (55 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, MP bets 39.2 BB, Hero calls 39.2 BB
River : (133.4 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero bets 56.6 BB and is all-in, MP calls 35 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Kc Kd (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 76%, Turn 7%)
MP shows 4d 4c (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 24%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 21.6 BB
MP wins 193.4 BB
partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (BTN): 251.8 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.95, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 44)
BB: 104 BB (VPIP: 27.71, PFR: 22.89, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 84)
UTG: 155.8 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 146 BB (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
CO: 279.9 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qc Jh
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB
Flop : (18.5 BB, 2 players) 3d 4d As
BB bets 5.8 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, BB calls 7.2 BB
Turn : (44.5 BB, 2 players) 9c
BB checks, Hero bets 31 BB, BB calls 31 BB
River : (106.5 BB, 2 players) 9s
BB checks, Hero bets 72.8 BB, BB calls 51 BB and is all-in
Hero shows Qc Jh (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 35%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
BB shows Ad Kc (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 65%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 21.8 BB
BB wins 198.5 BB
Here's the graph.
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Was decimated after that so took a break. Then started the evening 5NL 2 table session.
The start was pretty bad. lost around $7. But then slow & steady started to grind back up.
I would take a deep breath & calm myself whenever I make a bad play. That way I try not to get tilted & focus positively on ahead.
Well that shit worked & I had my most profitable 5NL session. Only 1.5k hands played.
At one table I was up to around 500+BBs!
I'll post the graph. But it the first 1k hands are from the session I had this early morning around 1/2AM I think.
Hands - 1502
BB/100 - 33.68
Net won - $25.29 :bandit:
If not for the 10NL loosing session I would've been flying today. But still ended up in profit.
Now I feel really confident at 5NL. Specially at fast forward player pool at party.
Will move on to regular tables after the rake race. Will have to increase my volume to catch up to top 100 though. Currently at around 160th.
So from next session onward will 3 table.
Regarding the 10NL games, they aren't that different from 5NL. I have noticed that the 3 bet ratio is a bit low though. At least from the session I had compared to 5NL. Some traps here n there from the players as well.
Party roll upto - $142.67
I think it's time to close this thread down. After I reach $150 at party I will start the new thread. Will post the hands from the session in a bit. Got some tasty ones :eating:
Notice how you always get very bad 'without showdown' wins? My graphs if I had them would be steady with red profit and up and down swings with the blue. You should be exploiting people who show weakness far more with or without the cards ESPECIALLY in a cash game since there's never a 'too low to cope' level of stack since rebuy+topup exists.
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
Some stupid plays early game
Tried to rep an ace here. Was certain he had Kings or Queens. Apparently a bit of a calling station
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Another fishy play by me. Need to get them out of my game
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Was bluff raising flop & continuing the story. Checked river cause I had showdown value.
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Felt this was slow playing aces. Thought about it but then called
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hmmmmmm
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well wtf!!
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Should I bet turn? Felt UTG was strong. Stung a bit in the end
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Well hello aces!! Freakin calling stations!!! How find someone from hud stats that he's a bit of a station or not? Need to find that out
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Now for some winning hands
Example of overplaying flush draw and blowing off all the equity
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Posted this on hand analysis. Wasn't too sure about river. But what are the suited hands the BB would call in a 3bet pot? Turned out to be a station who tried to trap & got himself caught
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Slow played aces.
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posted this on hand analysis as well
Tried to rep an ace here. Was certain he had Kings or Queens. Apparently a bit of a calling station
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 153.2 BB (VPIP: 17.82, PFR: 14.85, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 214)
SB: 180.8 BB (VPIP: 23.13, PFR: 14.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 143)
BB: 206.4 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 131.6 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 62)
Hero (MP): 524.6 BB
CO: 195.4 BB (VPIP: 21.03, PFR: 18.88, 3Bet Preflop: 7.59, Hands: 240)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jc Js
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 12 BB, fold, Hero calls 9 BB
Flop : (25 BB, 2 players) Ah 9d 8d
SB bets 7.8 BB, Hero calls 7.8 BB
Turn : (40.6 BB, 2 players) Ac
SB checks, Hero bets 28 BB, SB calls 28 BB
River : (96.6 BB, 2 players) 3s
SB checks, Hero bets 66 BB, SB calls 66 BB
Hero shows Jc Js (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 18%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
SB shows Kh Kc (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
SB wins 217.2 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 153.2 BB (VPIP: 17.82, PFR: 14.85, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 214)
SB: 180.8 BB (VPIP: 23.13, PFR: 14.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 143)
BB: 206.4 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 131.6 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 62)
Hero (MP): 524.6 BB
CO: 195.4 BB (VPIP: 21.03, PFR: 18.88, 3Bet Preflop: 7.59, Hands: 240)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jc Js
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 12 BB, fold, Hero calls 9 BB
Flop : (25 BB, 2 players) Ah 9d 8d
SB bets 7.8 BB, Hero calls 7.8 BB
Turn : (40.6 BB, 2 players) Ac
SB checks, Hero bets 28 BB, SB calls 28 BB
River : (96.6 BB, 2 players) 3s
SB checks, Hero bets 66 BB, SB calls 66 BB
Hero shows Jc Js (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 18%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
SB shows Kh Kc (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
SB wins 217.2 BB
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Another fishy play by me. Need to get them out of my game
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 188.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 67.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 59)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (MP): 106.8 BB
CO: 125.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Th Ah
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 9.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.4 BB
Flop : (19.8 BB, 2 players) Ad 7d 9d
SB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB
Turn : (45.8 BB, 2 players) 3s
SB checks, Hero bets 25.2 BB, SB raises to 44.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 19.6 BB
River : (135.4 BB, 2 players) 2c
Hero shows Th Ah (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 13%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
SB shows As Ac (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 87%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
SB wins 128.8 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 188.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 67.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 59)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (MP): 106.8 BB
CO: 125.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Th Ah
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 9.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.4 BB
Flop : (19.8 BB, 2 players) Ad 7d 9d
SB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB
Turn : (45.8 BB, 2 players) 3s
SB checks, Hero bets 25.2 BB, SB raises to 44.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 19.6 BB
River : (135.4 BB, 2 players) 2c
Hero shows Th Ah (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 13%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
SB shows As Ac (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 87%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
SB wins 128.8 BB
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Was bluff raising flop & continuing the story. Checked river cause I had showdown value.
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 106.2 BB (VPIP: 25.33, PFR: 21.33, 3Bet Preflop: 16.00, Hands: 77)
SB: 201.8 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 17.74, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 63)
Hero (BB): 256.6 BB
UTG: 73.2 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 5.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
MP: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 183.8 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 27.27, Hands: 20)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Qc
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop : (6.4 BB, 2 players) 4h 3s 3c
Hero checks, CO bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, CO calls 9 BB
Turn : (34.4 BB, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets 23.6 BB, CO calls 23.6 BB
River : (81.6 BB, 2 players) Kc
Hero checks, CO checks
Hero shows Kd Qc (Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
(Pre 42%, Flop 21%, Turn 0%)
CO shows 5c As (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 58%, Flop 79%, Turn 100%)
CO wins 77.6 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 106.2 BB (VPIP: 25.33, PFR: 21.33, 3Bet Preflop: 16.00, Hands: 77)
SB: 201.8 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 17.74, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 63)
Hero (BB): 256.6 BB
UTG: 73.2 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 5.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
MP: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 183.8 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 27.27, Hands: 20)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Qc
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop : (6.4 BB, 2 players) 4h 3s 3c
Hero checks, CO bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, CO calls 9 BB
Turn : (34.4 BB, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets 23.6 BB, CO calls 23.6 BB
River : (81.6 BB, 2 players) Kc
Hero checks, CO checks
Hero shows Kd Qc (Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
(Pre 42%, Flop 21%, Turn 0%)
CO shows 5c As (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 58%, Flop 79%, Turn 100%)
CO wins 77.6 BB
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Felt this was slow playing aces. Thought about it but then called
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 59 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 6)
SB: 101 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.06, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 70)
UTG: 109.2 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 42)
Hero (MP): 366 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.97, PFR: 14.22, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 231)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks Kh
UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 9.6 BB, fold, UTG calls 7 BB
Flop : (31 BB, 3 players) 6h 7d 2c
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 22 BB, SB calls 22 BB, fold
Turn : (75 BB, 2 players) Th
SB checks, Hero bets 51.4 BB, SB raises to 69 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 17.6 BB
River : (213 BB, 2 players) 5c
Hero shows Ks Kh (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
SB shows Ah Ad (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
SB wins 202.4 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 59 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 6)
SB: 101 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.06, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 70)
UTG: 109.2 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 42)
Hero (MP): 366 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.97, PFR: 14.22, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 231)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks Kh
UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 9.6 BB, fold, UTG calls 7 BB
Flop : (31 BB, 3 players) 6h 7d 2c
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 22 BB, SB calls 22 BB, fold
Turn : (75 BB, 2 players) Th
SB checks, Hero bets 51.4 BB, SB raises to 69 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 17.6 BB
River : (213 BB, 2 players) 5c
Hero shows Ks Kh (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
SB shows Ah Ad (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
SB wins 202.4 BB
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hmmmmmm
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 118.4 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (SB): 295.6 BB
BB: 114.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 191.8 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 56)
MP: 105.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
CO: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 7.79, PFR: 5.19, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 80)
Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9h 9c
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop : (9 BB, 3 players) 3h 8c 6d
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB, fold
Turn : (21 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero checks, MP bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB
River : (47 BB, 2 players) 2h
Hero checks, MP bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB
MP shows Kc Ks (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 81%, Flop 88%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks 9h 9c (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 19%, Flop 12%, Turn 0%)
MP wins 92.2 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 118.4 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (SB): 295.6 BB
BB: 114.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 191.8 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 56)
MP: 105.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
CO: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 7.79, PFR: 5.19, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 80)
Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9h 9c
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop : (9 BB, 3 players) 3h 8c 6d
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB, fold
Turn : (21 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero checks, MP bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB
River : (47 BB, 2 players) 2h
Hero checks, MP bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB
MP shows Kc Ks (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 81%, Flop 88%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks 9h 9c (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 19%, Flop 12%, Turn 0%)
MP wins 92.2 BB
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well wtf!!
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 178.6 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
BB: 120.6 BB (VPIP: 23.16, PFR: 12.63, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 96)
UTG: 152.8 BB (VPIP: 34.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 101)
Hero (MP): 355.4 BB
CO: 209.4 BB (VPIP: 32.43, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 37)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jh Js
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.4 BB
Flop : (22.2 BB, 2 players) 9c 8s Kh
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn : (22.2 BB, 2 players) 2s
Hero checks, BTN bets 21.2 BB, Hero calls 21.2 BB
River : (64.6 BB, 2 players) 2c
Hero checks, BTN bets 147 BB and is all-in, fold
BTN wins 208.4 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 178.6 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
BB: 120.6 BB (VPIP: 23.16, PFR: 12.63, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 96)
UTG: 152.8 BB (VPIP: 34.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 101)
Hero (MP): 355.4 BB
CO: 209.4 BB (VPIP: 32.43, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 37)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Jh Js
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.4 BB
Flop : (22.2 BB, 2 players) 9c 8s Kh
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn : (22.2 BB, 2 players) 2s
Hero checks, BTN bets 21.2 BB, Hero calls 21.2 BB
River : (64.6 BB, 2 players) 2c
Hero checks, BTN bets 147 BB and is all-in, fold
BTN wins 208.4 BB
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Should I bet turn? Felt UTG was strong. Stung a bit in the end
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 123.2 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 28.85, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 52)
SB: 67.4 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
BB: 37.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: 82.8 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 316.2 BB (VPIP: 17.59, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 109)
Hero (CO): 235.8 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Ad
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB
Flop : (21.4 BB, 2 players) 2h Jc 7h
UTG checks, Hero bets 12 BB, UTG calls 12 BB
Turn : (45.4 BB, 2 players) 2d
UTG checks, Hero checks
River : (45.4 BB, 2 players) 7d
UTG checks, Hero checks
UTG shows 4c 4d (Two Pair, Sevens and Fours)
(Pre 52%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
Hero mucks Kd Ad (Two Pair, Sevens and Twos)
(Pre 48%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
UTG wins 43.2 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 123.2 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 28.85, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 52)
SB: 67.4 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
BB: 37.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: 82.8 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 316.2 BB (VPIP: 17.59, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 109)
Hero (CO): 235.8 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kd Ad
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB
Flop : (21.4 BB, 2 players) 2h Jc 7h
UTG checks, Hero bets 12 BB, UTG calls 12 BB
Turn : (45.4 BB, 2 players) 2d
UTG checks, Hero checks
River : (45.4 BB, 2 players) 7d
UTG checks, Hero checks
UTG shows 4c 4d (Two Pair, Sevens and Fours)
(Pre 52%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
Hero mucks Kd Ad (Two Pair, Sevens and Twos)
(Pre 48%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
UTG wins 43.2 BB
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Well hello aces!! Freakin calling stations!!! How find someone from hud stats that he's a bit of a station or not? Need to find that out
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 131.4 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 37)
BB: 97.2 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 90)
Hero (UTG): 544 BB
MP: 113 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 97)
CO: 124.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5c 5s
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold
Flop : (7.4 BB, 2 players) 9d Qd 4d
Hero bets 5 BB, BTN calls 5 BB
Turn : (17.4 BB, 2 players) Jd
Hero bets 12 BB, BTN calls 12 BB
River : (41.4 BB, 2 players) Qc
Hero checks, BTN checks
Hero shows 5c 5s (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)
(Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 13%)
BTN shows Ac Ah (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 88%)
BTN wins 39.4 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 131.4 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 37)
BB: 97.2 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 90)
Hero (UTG): 544 BB
MP: 113 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 97)
CO: 124.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5c 5s
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold
Flop : (7.4 BB, 2 players) 9d Qd 4d
Hero bets 5 BB, BTN calls 5 BB
Turn : (17.4 BB, 2 players) Jd
Hero bets 12 BB, BTN calls 12 BB
River : (41.4 BB, 2 players) Qc
Hero checks, BTN checks
Hero shows 5c 5s (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)
(Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 13%)
BTN shows Ac Ah (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 88%)
BTN wins 39.4 BB
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Now for some winning hands
Example of overplaying flush draw and blowing off all the equity
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (BTN): 133.4 BB
SB: 105.8 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 42)
BB: 377.8 BB (VPIP: 18.27, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.32, Hands: 105)
UTG: 523.6 BB (VPIP: 18.07, PFR: 10.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 87)
MP: 274.8 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 28.00, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 50)
CO: 113.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Th Ts
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold
Flop : (7.4 BB, 2 players) Qd Td 8s
CO bets 5.4 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, CO raises to 40.4 BB, Hero raises to 130.4 BB and is all-in, CO calls 70 BB and is all-in
Turn : (228.2 BB, 2 players) Js
River : (228.2 BB, 2 players) Qh
CO shows Ad 3d (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 33%, Flop 26%, Turn 26%)
Hero shows Th Ts (Full House, Tens full of Queens)
(Pre 67%, Flop 74%, Turn 74%)
Hero wins 20 BB
Hero wins 216.8 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (BTN): 133.4 BB
SB: 105.8 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 42)
BB: 377.8 BB (VPIP: 18.27, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.32, Hands: 105)
UTG: 523.6 BB (VPIP: 18.07, PFR: 10.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 87)
MP: 274.8 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 28.00, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 50)
CO: 113.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Th Ts
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold
Flop : (7.4 BB, 2 players) Qd Td 8s
CO bets 5.4 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, CO raises to 40.4 BB, Hero raises to 130.4 BB and is all-in, CO calls 70 BB and is all-in
Turn : (228.2 BB, 2 players) Js
River : (228.2 BB, 2 players) Qh
CO shows Ad 3d (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 33%, Flop 26%, Turn 26%)
Hero shows Th Ts (Full House, Tens full of Queens)
(Pre 67%, Flop 74%, Turn 74%)
Hero wins 20 BB
Hero wins 216.8 BB
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Posted this on hand analysis. Wasn't too sure about river. But what are the suited hands the BB would call in a 3bet pot? Turned out to be a station who tried to trap & got himself caught
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 48.6 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 192 BB (VPIP: 36.59, PFR: 24.39, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 41)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 19.79, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 99)
MP: 136 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 455.4 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8h 7h
fold, MP raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 6.8 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 5.8 BB, MP calls 4.8 BB
Flop : (20.8 BB, 3 players) 6h 7d 9c
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 14 BB, BB calls 14 BB, fold
Turn : (48.8 BB, 2 players) 5h
BB checks, Hero bets 33.6 BB, BB calls 33.6 BB
River : (116 BB, 2 players) Jh
BB checks, Hero bets 49.6 BB, BB calls 49.6 BB
Hero shows 8h 7h (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 23%, Flop 49%, Turn 97%)
BB mucks Ks Kd (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 77%, Flop 51%, Turn 3%)
Hero wins 204.6 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 48.6 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 192 BB (VPIP: 36.59, PFR: 24.39, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 41)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 19.79, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 99)
MP: 136 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 455.4 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8h 7h
fold, MP raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 6.8 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 5.8 BB, MP calls 4.8 BB
Flop : (20.8 BB, 3 players) 6h 7d 9c
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 14 BB, BB calls 14 BB, fold
Turn : (48.8 BB, 2 players) 5h
BB checks, Hero bets 33.6 BB, BB calls 33.6 BB
River : (116 BB, 2 players) Jh
BB checks, Hero bets 49.6 BB, BB calls 49.6 BB
Hero shows 8h 7h (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 23%, Flop 49%, Turn 97%)
BB mucks Ks Kd (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 77%, Flop 51%, Turn 3%)
Hero wins 204.6 BB
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Slow played aces.
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 108.4 BB (VPIP: 11.39, PFR: 8.86, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 83)
Hero (SB): 385.8 BB
BB: 374 BB (VPIP: 27.35, PFR: 17.09, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 122)
UTG: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 23.76, PFR: 17.82, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 102)
MP: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 20.91, 3Bet Preflop: 19.05, Hands: 114)
CO: 102.2 BB (VPIP: 21.36, PFR: 14.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 108)
Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ad Ah
fold, MP raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, MP raises to 22.6 BB, Hero calls 12.6 BB
Flop : (46.2 BB, 2 players) Tc 6s Js
Hero checks, MP bets 24 BB, Hero raises to 64 BB, MP raises to 80.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 16.6 BB
Turn : (207.4 BB, 2 players) 8h
River : (207.4 BB, 2 players) Ks
Hero shows Ad Ah (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 85%, Flop 79%, Turn 80%)
MP mucks Qd Jc (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 15%, Flop 21%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 197.2 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 108.4 BB (VPIP: 11.39, PFR: 8.86, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 83)
Hero (SB): 385.8 BB
BB: 374 BB (VPIP: 27.35, PFR: 17.09, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 122)
UTG: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 23.76, PFR: 17.82, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 102)
MP: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 20.91, 3Bet Preflop: 19.05, Hands: 114)
CO: 102.2 BB (VPIP: 21.36, PFR: 14.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 108)
Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ad Ah
fold, MP raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, MP raises to 22.6 BB, Hero calls 12.6 BB
Flop : (46.2 BB, 2 players) Tc 6s Js
Hero checks, MP bets 24 BB, Hero raises to 64 BB, MP raises to 80.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 16.6 BB
Turn : (207.4 BB, 2 players) 8h
River : (207.4 BB, 2 players) Ks
Hero shows Ad Ah (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 85%, Flop 79%, Turn 80%)
MP mucks Qd Jc (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 15%, Flop 21%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 197.2 BB
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posted this on hand analysis as well
partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 43.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 192.2 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 4.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 45)
BB: 309 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
UTG: 77 BB (VPIP: 38.98, PFR: 30.51, 3Bet Preflop: 20.83, Hands: 64)
MP: 116.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (CO): 285.6 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qs Qc
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop : (6.4 BB, 2 players) Jh 2d 6d
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB
Turn : (14.4 BB, 2 players) Qh
BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, BB raises to 30 BB, Hero raises to 62 BB, BB calls 32 BB
River : (138.4 BB, 2 players) Ks
BB checks, Hero bets 216.6 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 348.2 BB
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 43.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 192.2 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 4.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 45)
BB: 309 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
UTG: 77 BB (VPIP: 38.98, PFR: 30.51, 3Bet Preflop: 20.83, Hands: 64)
MP: 116.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (CO): 285.6 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qs Qc
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop : (6.4 BB, 2 players) Jh 2d 6d
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB
Turn : (14.4 BB, 2 players) Qh
BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, BB raises to 30 BB, Hero raises to 62 BB, BB calls 32 BB
River : (138.4 BB, 2 players) Ks
BB checks, Hero bets 216.6 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 348.2 BB
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
show me your graphs & I'll believe you.
Red line close to break even is totally fine. Mine usually ends up decent + cause I do bluff & exploit a decent as per your theory. I try not to overdo that now.
Check my earlier zoom graphs. some I posted on Johns thread where my redlines are very high & blue low.
What that means is that I bluff too much+ not getting optimal value where I made overbetting mistakes where I made the V fold + calling down too much.
If you analysed your graphs, you could've found these as well. But all you do is try to explain how I should play without having a single graph or evidence to back up your facts.
R
Rational Madman
Legend
Platinum Level
For now I am grinding, when I have enough to spend I will get holdem manager for some beautiful black canvas multicolored graphs but I hope the software wont interfere.
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
I only see you playing $0.50 sit n gos. No cash games
check this out for your red line arguments
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/...jority-graphs-have-negative-red-line-1628440/
B
braveslice
Pull-ups!
Silver Level
Alu, when you have time could you plz do rake analysis for different sites? You should have much less rake than me given more agressive style, but the difference would be really interesting for between sites.
Mine for the year pokerstars are:
2NL: 5.49bb/100
5NL: 6.41bb/100
10NL: 6.57bb/100
Hmm, if we scale it only to include hands I played for example 2NL rake with 19% vpip is 29bb/100 per played hand
Mine for the year pokerstars are:
2NL: 5.49bb/100
5NL: 6.41bb/100
10NL: 6.57bb/100
Hmm, if we scale it only to include hands I played for example 2NL rake with 19% vpip is 29bb/100 per played hand
Figaroo2
Legend
Bronze Level
This is the best quote from that thread;
"It is difficult to play redline poker profitable. Also, more often than not you are loosing value by being a postive redliner."
This is imo the correct assessment, you have to be very aggressive to have a +redline which means you are blasting weak and medium hands out of the pot continually and aren't giving players a chance to bluff with weaker hands which you can then pick off.
I'm certain there is more value to be had in bluff catching than forcing a fold and getting nothing more.
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
I have missed this post. You are still talking from your little experience at PS.
For now, from the sites I'm playing atm, party poker has the best reward, rakeback system.
They are awarding 25% rakeback per every $25 of rake you generate. But it resets weekly so you have to cover that. Right now I've covered that by playing 5NL for just 2 days. When you move up they offer upto 40,50% rake back.
Plus they have rake races like the one I'm running now & additional promotions as well.
3 rake races for micro,mid & higher stakes for this month's monster series promotion with $1250 in cash + tourney tickets for the micro stakes 1st.
It's hard to catch up with the 10NLers though with the rake they are generating & that's what I was talking about.
Those things are additional promotions.
Now does stars offer those kind of promotions?
And you have little idea about the chest system. You can upgrade them if you earn 5 or so of the same chests in one day. Right now I've upgraded to blue ones but it's still shit. BTW I won $2 from the cardsmatch today but it's still shit.
They are trying to keep all the money in the system & slowly grind it out with rake. How many people do you see wasting stars coins on allin tourneys & some other crazy stuff. I did at one time as well. And of course have increased the rake by very unreasonable margins.
It's becoming pointless trying explain this to you.
Here watch these videos.
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Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
Alu, when you have time could you plz do rake analysis for different sites? You should have much less rake than me given more agressive style, but the difference would be really interesting for between sites.
Mine for the year pokerstars are:
2NL: 5.49bb/100
5NL: 6.41bb/100
10NL: 6.57bb/100
Hmm, if we scale it only to include hands I played for example 2NL rake with 19% vpip is 29bb/100 per played hand
Will do man. But got no clue how to calculate those:dontknow:
Should I check an all in hand & calculate how much rake was taken from it?
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
yeah it's actually a no brainer when you thing about it. You are literally loosing around 20BB per hand when you make the V fold his hand instead of bluff catching or value betting the river.
But it's hard to balance it out
R
Rational Madman
Legend
Platinum Level
maybe it upgrades to blue but i guarantee you that the chests say 'for your preferred game type' it's including roulette, blackjack and video poker within the chest progress.
Keith_MM
Legend
Silver Level
i'd love to see why 20% base rakeback at party poker is worse than ~5% rakeback with stars rewards chests.
Figaroo2
Legend
Bronze Level
Ha ha thanks for these, I never realised Polk was such a Stars hater. Excellent!
Dnegs has been brainwashed by over exposure to biased one sided Stars propaganda/analysis He is actually starting to believe their BS.
As a trained intelligence analyst myself I can see this bias.
Stars fixate on the "poker economy" argument but that appears to be just a bunch of flawed suppositions.
Even Lex came back from his last trip to their Isle of Man HQ partially washed.
Its like saying casinos will run out of punters who want to play roulette....there have always been punters.
Not exactly a shortage of casinos and betting shops are there.
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braveslice
Pull-ups!
Silver Level
Will do man. But got no clue how to calculate those
Should I check an all in hand & calculate how much rake was taken from it?
Go Results, Report: Overview -> See stat ‘Rake Attrib’
Divide by hands played, multiply by 100 and divide by bb cost to get bb/100
Oh btw that screen is important place in PT because from there you can select the area from the plot that interest you.
For hud I full heartily recommend you to try Justins Hud of Death. Its very good for free hud, even though not close of commercial huds.
https://www.pokertracker.com/custom/hud
Alucard
Santoryu
Silver Level
Ok what's meant by BB cost?
I'll write down the stats I see cause I'm helpless at this
Party Poker
*2NL 6max - Rake = $36.01 | Hands = 21993 | BB/100 = 12.77 | BB won = 2809.5 | Hands won = 4333
* 5NL 6max (fast) - Rake = $27.20 | Hands = 6626 | BB/100 = 13.42 | BB won = 889.20 | Hands won = 1034
My 2NL winning rate has been around break even for the last 5k hands which I'm not happy about. Maybe because I focused on tourneys that time around??!!!??.. :icon_scra
888 Poker
*2NL full ring - Rake = $31.68 | Hands = 16790 | BB/100 = 10.66 | BB won = 1790 | Hands won = 1986
* 5NL 6max - - Rake = $12.65 | Hands = 2619 | BB/100 = 29.27 | BB won = 766.60 | Hands won = 507
I hope you don't need stars ones. Let me know if you need anything more.
BTW is there a way to analyze graphs/stats by omitting some sessions.
Like last 5000 hands o the first 5000 hands?
What I have taken notice of after seeing this is that, at stars & 888 full ring (2NL), my ratio has been lowered due to my earlier theatrics before improving.
But specially at Party poker the last 5k hands have been really disappointing.
I'll post all 3 graphs. 6max at party & stars. full ring at 888. all 2NL. I haven't played full ring 888 in a while though.
888 2NL full ring
pokerstars 2NL 6max
partypoker 2NL 6max
I started playing at party around the time I started this thread and really focused on the game there. So obviously run good. But want to find out why I'm break even last 5k hands or so.
How do I find out when I started this break even run & the reasons for them??
Some reasons I think as I remember - focusing on more tourneys, transitioning to 5NL at run bad on earlier 5NL sessions, again adapting to 5NL and going back to 2NL playing a similar style.???, And of course Not focusing much & no motivation