What is your strategy against loose players?

[PoorGypsy]

I noticed that I'm always very fast kicked out from the tournament when I have a table full of people who easy goes all in and easy calls all in with Q5, K7 even 22 all hands with picture I guess fine for them. They also can make big raises with marginal hands and make stupid bluffs. I can not find a way how to play against those people. they easily can kill your good cards, they alays donk bet either with nuts or just a draw even go all in ith gutshot. it's always gambling with them.

And I'm strongly want to find ways how to adapt to them and use their way of playing for my side, but I still can not find it.

So I beg you to give me some good advices or links to threads, educational materials how to outplay this people.

 

[dorsk]

I noticed that I'm always very fast kicked out from the tournament when I have a table full of people who easy goes all in and easy calls all in with Q5, K7 even 22 all hands with picture I guess fine for them. They also can make big raises with marginal hands and make stupid bluffs. I can not find a way how to play against those people. they easily can kill your good cards, they alays donk bet either with nuts or just a draw even go all in ith gutshot. it's always gambling with them.

And I'm strongly want to find ways how to adapt to them and use their way of playing for my side, but I still can not find it.

So I beg you to give me some good advices or links to threads, educational materials how to outplay this people.

Sounds like a micro limit tour stigma. Non thinking bingo players. Not worth playing in my opinion. From $10 MTTs you won’t see nearly as many of these Funny Farm players. And they always bust anyway.
I know this isn’t the advice you’re seeking for. But sometimes advice non required can be a path worth exploring.

 

[maronza1]

Against LAGs play TAG style
Against TAG play LAG style
Remember to always play a balanced strategy to avoid being exploited by the sharks

 

[PoorGypsy]

Sounds like a micro limit tour stigma. Non thinking bingo players. Not worth playing in my opinion. From $10 MTTs you won’t see many of these Funny Farm players. And they always bust.

I play live tournaments (freerolls) and online freerolls. meanwhile doesn't feel like can play tournaments for money. so need to know in my case

 

[PoorGypsy]

Against LAGs play TAG style
Against TAG play LAG style
Remember to always play a balanced strategy to avoid being exploited by the sharks

today I plyed TAG against LAG and just lost a lot of time, levels up and I had to small amount of blinds. around 10bb and lost all in with pocket 77 against Q5

 

[dorsk]

I play live tournaments (freerolls) and online freerolls. meanwhile doesn't feel like can play tournaments for money. so need to know in my case

Ok, I understand. I hope that you rather sooner than later take the opportunity to play for money. Even a $1 MTT is quite different to a freeroll. Something happens when you invest currency in playing. Meanwhile I wish you good luck at the freerolls😊

 

[monkeytilter]

It's just how it is in freeroll and very low buy in games. You have a choice to either fold more (and bleed blinds) or just get it in most likely ahead of donkey ranges. (Make sure you correctly mark the donkeys and the better players though, not everyone is a donkey😜) You will win more than your fair share, but just accept you'll lose more often than not - just on to the next one, they're free!

The question you are asking effectively is how do I out play villains who aren't actually playing poker', you can't, there is no outplaying them, you are just card catching vs them so just have stronger hands that catch better.

Where are you playing freerolls?, Some sites are better than others.

 

[black and]

I noticed that I'm always very fast kicked out from the tournament when I have a table full of people who easy goes all in and easy calls all in with Q5, K7 even 22 all hands with picture I guess fine for them. They also can make big raises with marginal hands and make stupid bluffs. I can not find a way how to play against those people. they easily can kill your good cards, they alays donk bet either with nuts or just a draw even go all in ith gutshot. it's always gambling with them.

And I'm strongly want to find ways how to adapt to them and use their way of playing for my side, but I still can not find it.

So I beg you to give me some good advices or links to threads, educational materials how to outplay this people.

The easiest way is to play correctly, be patient and consistent. Players like you described are playing bingo, and if you want to improve and feel progress, you just have to play poker. So, be patient and continue not to play with junk

 

[Goggelheimer]

I noticed that I'm always very fast kicked out from the tournament when I have a table full of people who easy goes all in and easy calls all in with Q5, K7 even 22 all hands with picture I guess fine for them. They also can make big raises with marginal hands and make stupid bluffs. I can not find a way how to play against those people. they easily can kill your good cards, they alays donk bet either with nuts or just a draw even go all in ith gutshot. it's always gambling with them.

And I'm strongly want to find ways how to adapt to them and use their way of playing for my side, but I still can not find it.

So I beg you to give me some good advices or links to threads, educational materials how to outplay this people.

In freerolls patience is the key.
I know it is frustrating but if you play with these luck gamblers only this will help.
Don't let them put you under pressure.
There are plenty of them (freerolls and luck gamblers).
Mark those players with a note and a color that gives you a clear sign, maniac at work.
Play advice was given, above, so mostly TAG style and try to play in position to these players(mostly not when they push you AI).
Problem is you mostly can’t put them on a range of hands,
so you have to be very observant of what the board gives to you.
Try to aim for sets/trips, good combo draws(Nut Flush/Nut straight), avoid high card(A high), second and third pair plays, like all one pair hands are a problem against this player type.
If they push, fold the weakest part of your range, mostly play only lets say JJ+, AKs/o maybe AQs that's it.
Even if you are short stacked, try to have a stronger range than theirs to go all in after their push.
Even if you feel they push you around, keep in mind they will find their master.
Even if you hate their play, keep your ego out of the play.

 

[PoorGypsy]

It's just how it is in freeroll and very low buy in games. You have a choice to either fold more (and bleed blinds) or just get it in most likely ahead of donkey ranges. (Make sure you correctly mark the donkeys and the better players though, not everyone is a donkey😜) You will win more than your fair share, but just accept you'll lose more often than not - just on to the next one, they're free!

The question you are asking effectively is how do I out play villains who aren't actually playing poker', you can't, there is no outplaying them, you are just card catching vs them so just have stronger hands that catch better.

Where are you playing freerolls?, Some sites are better than others.

Very nice answer. Made me smile and feel more confident, thank you. I play on 888 also live, and little on coin(which i found a little easier to play then 888) sometimes stake, was playing on poker stars but freeroll structure there is so bad, i think to play there when I will have a good bakroll and can afford to play some micro buy in tournaments

 

[PoorGypsy]

In freerolls patience is the key.
I know it is frustrating but if you play with these luck gamblers only this will help.
Don't let them put you under pressure.
There are plenty of them (freerolls and luck gamblers).
Mark those players with a note and a color that gives you a clear sign, maniac at work.
Play advice was given, above, so mostly TAG style and try to play in position to these players(mostly not when they push you AI).
Problem is you mostly can’t put them on a range of hands,
so you have to be very observant of what the board gives to you.
Try to aim for sets/trips, good combo draws(Nut Flush/Nut straight), avoid high card(A high), second and third pair plays, like all one pair hands are a problem against this player type.
If they push, fold the weakest part of your range, mostly play only lets say JJ+, AKs/o maybe AQs that's it.
Even if you are short stacked, try to have a stronger range than theirs to go all in after their push.
Even if you feel they push you around, keep in mind they will find their master.
Even if you hate their play, keep your ego out of the play.

great advices. thank you)

 

[monkeytilter]

Very nice answer. Made me smile and feel more confident, thank you. I play on 888 also live, and little on coin(which i found a little easier to play then 888) sometimes stake, was playing on poker stars but freeroll structure there is so bad, i think to play there when I will have a good bakroll and can afford to play some micro buy in tournaments

Yes you'll waste a lot of time playing on pokerstars freerolls without even coming close to winning anything.
That is not a criticism of Stars, but just accept their freerolls as more of a lottery, it's fine if you are playing freerolls on other sites at the same time maybe.

 

[dannystanks]

There is a book called How To Beat Players Who Never Fold by Alex Fitzgerald that might help you.

 

[Sparta77]

You have to stay calm and not go into their game.I know you're nervous but wait for the strong cards and push them out

 

[CaioRJ]

Play tight with strong cards and make him bet how as if he had winning

 

[monkeytilter]

There is a book called How To Beat Players Who Never Fold by Alex Fitzgerald that might help you.

Is that aimed at cash games only or does it cover tournament play also?

 

[dannystanks]

Is that aimed at cash games only or does it cover tournament play also?

It’s geared for low buy in Tournaments and Home Games. So live play it is great for like $200.00 buy ins.

 

[PoorGypsy]

There is a book called How To Beat Players Who Never Fold by Alex Fitzgerald that might help you.

thankyou))

 

[PoorGypsy]

You have to stay calm and not go into their game.I know you're nervous but wait for the strong cards and push them out

they can beat even your strong cards))

 

[mssmotilda]

I think it's better to play with such players postflop, then they don't understand at all what they need to do, and it's very easy to play with them.

 

[85champ07]

I play a lot of online micro limit and freeroll MTT's and I can totally relate to this. One major obstacle we must overcome mentally is the anticipation to win with good cards in good positions. Stay aware of stack sizes and blind levels. I use these to stay in tune with the flow of the game. With 100BB's stack and 15 minutes in there is no reason to talk yourself into easentially a coin flip. If I have an aggressive player playing every hand all in preflop I am only playing TT-AA. Also, the variance is way too high with multiple gamblers in a hand. Be patient, there is always a better spot. Watch the blinds and be aware of how many BB's you have. As blind levels approach level 10 you will see a regular trend of tight aggressive play, but there is still areas weak cards can end up being the better hand. Poker is full of variance and 23o could beat AA under some circumstances, a lot of us have seen it first hand. Watch opponent stack sizes as preflop donkies can have lucky streaks and when they are growing to fast they are willing to give up chips to your bets when you are confident to have the best hand. Don't make a donkey a target as that will effect your ego and when you attack you are also anticipating the win; this can inflate one's ego quickly. One more thing, look for tells in their bet sizing and other opponents at the table. If two or more players are obviously at war, watch out! A lot of players anticipate winning and that drives false confidence and a gamblers mindset. Stay focused and don't believe good cards will always win.

 

[nelomec]

I noticed that I'm always very fast kicked out from the tournament when I have a table full of people who easy goes all in and easy calls all in with Q5, K7 even 22 all hands with picture I guess fine for them. They also can make big raises with marginal hands and make stupid bluffs. I can not find a way how to play against those people. they easily can kill your good cards, they alays donk bet either with nuts or just a draw even go all in ith gutshot. it's always gambling with them.

And I'm strongly want to find ways how to adapt to them and use their way of playing for my side, but I still can not find it.

So I beg you to give me some good advices or links to threads, educational materials how to outplay this people.

You find many players of this type at low limits, playing at this level, one of the good strategies that you can use against them is to go all in with premium cards, strong hands like (AA, KK or AK) be patient until you hold one of these hands and go all in in the same proportion as them and play aggressively with hands like (QQ, AQ, JJ, AJs, 1010, KQs) always in position.

 

[PoorGypsy]

I think it's better to play with such players postflop, then they don't understand at all what they need to do, and it's very easy to play with them.

yeah, they just jam or 3 bet. But sometimes if you check the flop they just see it like weakness and they go big bet or all in and if you haven't anything good you have to fold

 

[PoorGypsy]

I play a lot of online micro limit and freeroll MTT's and I can totally relate to this. One major obstacle we must overcome mentally is the anticipation to win with good cards in good positions. Stay aware of stack sizes and blind levels. I use these to stay in tune with the flow of the game. With 100BB's stack and 15 minutes in there is no reason to talk yourself into easentially a coin flip. If I have an aggressive player playing every hand all in preflop I am only playing TT-AA. Also, the variance is way too high with multiple gamblers in a hand. Be patient, there is always a better spot. Watch the blinds and be aware of how many BB's you have. As blind levels approach level 10 you will see a regular trend of tight aggressive play, but there is still areas weak cards can end up being the better hand. Poker is full of variance and 23o could beat AA under some circumstances, a lot of us have seen it first hand. Watch opponent stack sizes as preflop donkies can have lucky streaks and when they are growing to fast they are willing to give up chips to your bets when you are confident to have the best hand. Don't make a donkey a target as that will effect your ego and when you attack you are also anticipating the win; this can inflate one's ego quickly. One more thing, look for tells in their bet sizing and other opponents at the table. If two or more players are obviously at war, watch out! A lot of players anticipate winning and that drives false confidence and a gamblers mindset. Stay focused and don't believe good cards will always win.

thank you for good advices

 

[PoorGypsy]

thank you for good advices

today I was playing all day and always loosing all ins with AA AK 99+, because I had around 20bb I had to go all in. But it didn't work all daay. When It happens to me I just start to feel like I don't want to go all in preflop at all))