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First i consider anything $6.00 or less to be micro stakes basically and your gonna get the same results but have i seen even freeroll play at $20.00 up yes....same hands your bitching about...Look back in day 2005 say you could play freerolls all day every day and make BANK now you cant so far in 3 months i am up to like 130 in wins on freerolls got lucky on wsop Michigan for a 10k event...no cc wins....but ill take it....Freerolls need to be added into the mix and as stated its free its not messing with your money...So ya to answer your ?? anytime anywhere people will play anything....sounds like you need to just take a day off then get back on the horse againFirst thing you may answer is: "of course, they are free", but what about wasting time, your stress?
Yesterday I've lost: AK x A3 / KQ x 98 / TT x 87s / AQ x 38 (all preflop)
Again, you may say "of course, it's a thing called variance"
But I desagree. Of course variance exists and we should deal with it, but no where in the world a player would call an all in (over 20~30bbs) with A3 or 38. That really piss me off!!
Here's my graph that says that I mainly play freerolls, Yeah, it's only "for fun",but thinks really stress me out.
Paying a USD2,00, even if is an insignificant ammount, would chance things?
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well im cheap so you got me on the cant afford i can afford honestly just do NOT like depositing money and have NOTHING but time so freerolling is what i do haha....Hardheaded but first game 2003 acr was freeroll rolled into 3k range...put on probably 100 sites in hayday lol never deposited truly till like 2018 anywhere was always winnings....put in maybe 100 so far in deposits in life...as said im cheap....i have decent money living with folks for now dad is 81 so spending time while can but ya im still going freeroll but im only playing here for now honestly is other sites could run up and do some freerolls so im not fully serious but having fun with the group again so sticking to that for now...also have no real goals just have fun be nice enjoy self and for me i dont get frustrated over losses its poker i get mad for a minute but is what it is not my time ill have plenty of luck overtime I know thisAnd not only for freerolls I might add. Avoiding bad beats is never a good reason to move up, because they are part of the game. And in general its also not a good reason to move up, that you want to avoid bad players. But with that being said there are times, where it might be more enjoyable to play against slightly better players, who care a bit more about not losing.
If for instance people regularly just ship it in with 50BB preflop, that does take away the option for everyone else to play a more normal game, where they get to see some flops, turns and river and make more complex decisions. And this is why, it might be more enjoyable as well as more educational to play for instance a $5 tournament rather than a freeroll, even if your main goal is not to make money. Plus the fact that the excitement of potentially winning $300 from a $5 investment is arguable larger for most people than the excitement of potentially winning $10 from a $0 investment.
Or lets put it this way. If you were very rich and did not need any more money but really enjoyed poker for the competitive element, would you go to Las Vegas and play the WSOP main event, or would you play online freerolls? Or if you did not have time to go to Las Vegas, would you play freerolls, or would you play tournaments like Sunday Million on PokerStars, or Venom on ACR? Lets be honest now and admit, that the main reason, people play freerolls or microstakes games "for fun", is because, they cant afford more expensive games![]()
I agree, but all in pre-flop is almost an obligation because of the initial chips, very little so that's why there are many all in pre-flop...Acho que os freerolls podem nos ensinar que faz muito pouco sentido jogar a maioria das mãos all-in pré-flop. Digo "pode" nos ensinar porque, como acontece com a maioria das coisas na vida, temos que estar realmente dispostos a aprender.
Os exemplos citados acima provam isso. E há muitos, muitos, muitos mais.
Não há livros sérios e cursos sérios sobre pôquer que defendam jogar all-in como o estilo de torneio padrão. Então, onde pegamos esse péssimo hábito? Os sites de pôquer geralmente o incentivam com suas estruturas de blinds. Eles querem que jogadores amadores vejam o pôquer como um jogo de azar puro, em vez de uma atividade séria baseada em habilidades. Freerolls e torneios de apostas baixas quase sempre têm blinds mais altos e intervalos de blinds mais curtos. Não sei se eles ainda fazem isso, mas o PokerStars costumava ter jogos intitulados "escola" com estruturas de blinds atrozes que ensinavam exatamente o oposto do que uma "escola" de pôquer deveria ensinar.
Conforme os buy-ins aumentam, as estruturas de blinds se tornam mais propícias para jogar mais seriamente. Nós aqui da Cardschat temos sorte porque as estruturas de blinds dos freerolls do Replay Poker são razoáveis.
I agree with you my friend. Certainly if you were playing a paid tournament you wouldn't go all-in preflop with these hands. AK, KQ, TT or AQ are hands for 3-betting or 4-betting pre-flop in cash games. But in freerolls everyone thinks they've already won with these hands and goes all in. The problem is that in the freeroll the villain pays. And since it's going all in, you'll lose at some point.First thing you may answer is: "of course, they are free", but what about wasting time, your stress?
Yesterday I've lost: AK x A3 / KQ x 98 / TT x 87s / AQ x 38 (all preflop)
Again, you may say "of course, it's a thing called variance"
But I desagree. Of course variance exists and we should deal with it, but no where in the world a player would call an all in (over 20~30bbs) with A3 or 38. That really piss me off!!
Here's my graph that says that I mainly play freerolls, Yeah, it's only "for fun",but thinks really stress me out.
Paying a USD2,00, even if is an insignificant ammount, would chance things?
View attachment 364760
Thats of course cool. But if you were "always winning", then imagine how much more it could have been, if you had not handicapped yourself by this idea of never depositing and therefore having to spend loads of times playing freerolls and micro games instead of games with more significant money at stake. Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to me rather than something to be proud of or recommend to others.Hardheaded but first game 2003 acr was freeroll rolled into 3k range...put on probably 100 sites in hayday lol never deposited truly till like 2018 anywhere was always winnings....
Cost nothing but your sanity.A bad tournament playing free roll has cost nothing and the game has probably been a challenge and hopefully fun.![]()