180 person stars sng, from start to finish [key hands]

[joosebuck]

Downfall started here....


pokerstars GAME #6091838474: TOURNAMENT #30857625, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XIII (1000/2000) - 2006/08/29 - 01:58:15 (ET)
Table '30857625 17' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: joosebucklol (73740 in chips)
Seat 4: bigwats666 (9702 in chips)
Seat 5: PRL100 (58414 in chips)
Seat 6: reefgossip (45951 in chips)
Seat 7: BohRing (63521 in chips)
Seat 8: tex2ak (18672 in chips)
joosebucklol: posts the ante 100
bigwats666: posts the ante 100
PRL100: posts the ante 100
reefgossip: posts the ante 100
BohRing: posts the ante 100
tex2ak: posts the ante 100
BohRing: posts small blind 1000
tex2ak: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [Jh Ks]
joosebucklol: raises 8000 to 10000
bigwats666: folds
PRL100: folds
reefgossip: folds
BohRing: folds
tex2ak: raises 8572 to 18572 and is all-in
joosebucklol: calls 8572
joosebucklol said, "gl"
*** FLOP *** [8d 6s 6h]
*** TURN *** [8d 6s 6h] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [8d 6s 6h 2c] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tex2ak: shows [Th Td] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
joosebucklol: shows [Jh Ks] (a pair of Sixes)
tex2ak said, "ty"
tex2ak collected 38744 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 38744 | Rake 0
Board [8d 6s 6h 2c 4h]
Seat 3: joosebucklol showed [Jh Ks] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: bigwats666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PRL100 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: reefgossip (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: BohRing (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: tex2ak (big blind) showed [Th Td] and won (38744) with two pair, Tens and Sixes


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POKERSTARS GAME #6091899189: TOURNAMENT #30857625, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XIV (1500/3000) - 2006/08/29 - 02:06:48 (ET)
Table '30857625 17' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 3: joosebucklol (56664 in chips)
Seat 4: bigwats666 (22308 in chips)
Seat 5: PRL100 (52964 in chips)
Seat 6: reefgossip (47099 in chips)
Seat 7: BohRing (52471 in chips)
Seat 8: tex2ak (38494 in chips)
joosebucklol: posts the ante 150
bigwats666: posts the ante 150
PRL100: posts the ante 150
reefgossip: posts the ante 150
BohRing: posts the ante 150
tex2ak: posts the ante 150
tex2ak: posts small blind 1500
joosebucklol: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [Ah 4s]
bigwats666: folds
PRL100: calls 3000
reefgossip: folds
BohRing: folds
tex2ak: folds
joosebucklol: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c Jd Qc]
joosebucklol: bets 6000
PRL100: calls 6000
*** TURN *** [9c Jd Qc] [9d]
joosebucklol: bets 9000
PRL100: calls 9000
*** RIVER *** [9c Jd Qc 9d] [Qd]
joosebucklol: checks
PRL100: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joosebucklol: shows [Ah 4s] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
PRL100: shows [Ad Jh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
PRL100 collected 38400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 38400 | Rake 0
Board [9c Jd Qc 9d Qd]
Seat 3: joosebucklol (big blind) showed [Ah 4s] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 4: bigwats666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PRL100 showed [Ad Jh] and won (38400) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 6: reefgossip folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: BohRing (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tex2ak (small blind) folded before Flop


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My raises mean nothing now


POKERSTARS GAME #6091918842: TOURNAMENT #30857625, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XIV (1500/3000) - 2006/08/29 - 02:09:36 (ET)
Table '30857625 17' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: joosebucklol (33414 in chips)
Seat 5: PRL100 (65114 in chips)
Seat 6: reefgossip (47249 in chips)
Seat 7: BohRing (77179 in chips)
Seat 8: tex2ak (47044 in chips)
joosebucklol: posts the ante 150
PRL100: posts the ante 150
reefgossip: posts the ante 150
BohRing: posts the ante 150
tex2ak: posts the ante 150
BohRing: posts small blind 1500
tex2ak: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [Jh 2c]
joosebucklol: raises 6000 to 9000
BohRing said, "lol"
PRL100: raises 24000 to 33000
reefgossip: folds
BohRing: folds
tex2ak: folds
joosebucklol: folds
PRL100 collected 23250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23250 | Rake 0
Seat 3: joosebucklol folded before Flop
Seat 5: PRL100 collected (23250)
Seat 6: reefgossip (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: BohRing (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: tex2ak (big blind) folded before Flop


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and shes done :/


POKERSTARS GAME #6091931514: TOURNAMENT #30857625, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XIV (1500/3000) - 2006/08/29 - 02:11:27 (ET)
Table '30857625 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: joosebucklol (13464 in chips)
Seat 5: PRL100 (75914 in chips)
Seat 6: reefgossip (52049 in chips)
Seat 7: BohRing (75229 in chips)
Seat 8: tex2ak (53344 in chips)
joosebucklol: posts the ante 150
PRL100: posts the ante 150
reefgossip: posts the ante 150
BohRing: posts the ante 150
tex2ak: posts the ante 150
PRL100: posts small blind 1500
reefgossip: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [6c Tc]
BohRing: folds
tex2ak: folds
joosebucklol: raises 10314 to 13314 and is all-in
PRL100: calls 11814
reefgossip: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 3d 8h]
*** TURN *** [Js 3d 8h] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Js 3d 8h 4c] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PRL100: shows [5c 5d] (a pair of Fives)
joosebucklol: shows [6c Tc] (high card King)
PRL100 collected 30378 from pot
reefgossip said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30378 | Rake 0
Board [Js 3d 8h 4c Kh]
Seat 3: joosebucklol (button) showed [6c Tc] and lost with high card King
Seat 5: PRL100 (small blind) showed [5c 5d] and won (30378) with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: reefgossip (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: BohRing folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tex2ak folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[ChuckTs]

It looked like you were picking your spots fine, but after that KJ vs TT hand, you just broke down. For example, that A4 vs AJ hand, you were betting into a VERY dangerous flop; possibly the worst flop ever for bluffing. QJ9 is just about the definition of an action flop, and on top of the fact that you're probably seen as a very aggressive player, people are bound to call you down with 2nd pair. Then you raised and pushed with 2 very weak hands: J2 and T6 - I'm sure you could have waited for a better opportunity to try and steal, as your stack was still perfectly healthy.

quote:
My raises mean nothing now

Exactly. You've been very aggressive, which was fine at first because you were picking good spots, and the other players were playing very tight, but your opponents caught on. You always have to keep your table image in mind, especially when making big bluffs like that. You don't have to completely dominate the table, and can still be an aggressive player and accumulate a good amount of chips. It just seems to me like you started to tilt some after that KJ hand, and you were trying your normal bluffing plays, but in poorer spots.

Have you read the HoH series? They were a GREAT help to my tournament game, and if you haven't, then they should help you immensely. I'm alot like you (or used to be, at least moreso than now) in that I sometimes get too loose late, or maybe it's just that I don't pick my spots properly. The series taught me just how much a conservative game can help with bluffing.

Hope my ramble helped some

 

[Bombjack]

Yeah I haven't read all these HHs, but the A4 vs AJ is a check-fold hand if I ever saw one. Everyone loses more pots than they win. So a large amount of the skill in poker is cutting your losses when you're behind.

 

[mrsnake3695]

I didn't read everyone (I do have a life), but what I did see is that you seem to be pushing alot of weak aces and got very lucky a couple of times hitting 3 outers or flushes. (6% chance of getting a flush with 2 flush cards in your hand and seeing all 5 board cards). Weak aces may look good but are too easily dominated. Any pocket pair over you kicker and almost any other ace has you dominated, also 2 cards between your ace and kicker is only a slight underdog.

The Ah, Qh hand with a queen on the board and 2 hearts, why bet so much? You figure to have the best hand here and should try to get some value. you bet more than the pot and only a hand that has you beat (like a set) will call you while the weak flush draws or middle pair hands should fold. You want them to call and chase you here, why push them out. You had top pair top kicker and the nut flush draw. A value bet here instead of the over bet might have gotten you some more chips.

Mainly I don't like the ace x bets, especially the ones you played from early position.

 

[joosebuck]

at that point i was raising with any two. i dont value weak aces at all early on & in ring games. i have 19-25% seen rate usually, premiums + suited connectors & pp's from mp or later. any two was getting me the blinds + antes, so i exploited it. i hoped someone flopped some part of that AQ and, and since i had been playing so aggressively, i was hoping for someone to put me on junk "as usual"