Pokerstars is losing badly to GG Poker.😮

[Poker Orifice]

Yes, 99% of what PokerStars offers in terms of freeroll is hyper satellites, rebuy, and 1000 chips only. I don't see any freeroll that is exciting or encouraging us to play there.
so to speak, They have closed the field to a fair number of Non-Depositing FREEROLLERS

FYP

 

[Poker Orifice]

The problem is that simple users are the ones who bring volume and money to the rooms. I believe that around 70% of the money distributed in freerolls returns to the room as players end up paying buy-in with the money they get in the freeroll. T

Because you 'believe it'. Because maybe that's the case for yourself? Because personally I believe that 90% of the money won from CC freerolls was NOT put back on the site. IF it had been, I don't know if pokerstars would've stopped offering the games.

I hate to break it to you but 'simple users' (in this case let's be honest, we're referring to NON-DEPOSITING FREEROLLERS) do NOT bring 'money' to the rooms. IF they did, do you honestly think Pokerstars would cease offering freerolls?
I have a feeling that they have some staff that is far more experienced regarding this stuff than someone like myself. At one point in time (YEARS ago during the poker boom), offering up Freerolls was a great way to 'introduce' players to a poker site, to get them playing on there for real money, in hopes that they would actually move towards becoming a 'DEPOSITING REAL MONEY PLAYER' (real money.. not 'penny player').

Maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps they've just made the biggest mistake EVER by cancelling the freerolls.

Here's a question for you (& others). If offering up the Freerolls is a great business decision, then why doesn't GGPoker have any freerolls going? (and yet they've become the largest online site in the world...... hmm.. so confusing).

And why is it that CC members aren't complaining about GGPoker? I mean GG only offered freerolls to CC members for a very short period of time (compared with what Pokerstars offered). And yet they are just given a pass?

What I find disturbing is posts suggesting that Pokerstars is done (or will be done soon), or it is the worst site ever, etc. etc. etc. So much trashing of the site. Meanwhile, a year ago when they were offering up games DAILY to CC members, the freerollers thought Pokerstars was the GREATEST site ever!

Help a person out for awhile... they'll tell you that you're the best person EVER! Stop giving them money and all of a sudden you are a TERRIBLE person... and everything you've given them up to this point in time all of a sudden means absolutely nothing.

If you want to call this being a fanboy... fly at 'er.

fwiw, I'm not a big fan of the Pokerstars site. They were never my favorite in my 17yrs. of playing online poker. And they certainly dropped way down the list when they changed their Rewards Program, ripping off a bunch of their most dedicated regular players. And when they chose to raise the rake & tourney fees on the micro & Low buyin games. < This was absolutely shooting themselve's in the foot. (what a shame!).

And for those on here who seem to want Pokerstars to fail (and 'end'), I hate to break it to you but this would be very bad for online poker. Not only would it limit where people can play, & not only would it eliminate Mixed Games Tournaments... and some Great series that run (WCOOP, SCOOP), but it would also eliminate competition and GGPoker would (could... or maybe already is starting to be) become a Monopoly (similar to what happened to online poker from Pokerstars and the 'more rake is good' B.S.).

 

[Jean-Guy]

Yes, 99% of what PokerStars offers in terms of freeroll is hyper satellites, rebuy, and 1000 chips only. I don't see any freeroll that is exciting or encouraging us to play there.
so to speak, They have closed the field to a fair number of simple users.

Why do people play freerolls? Yes, I know that Norwegian Annette Obrestad won topdollar on freerolls 15 years ago. Does anybody today?

 

[Iryna Stryzheuskaya]

I think PS is no longer what it used to be. They have changed a lot, they have become more boring, there are few interesting promotions, almost no freerolls.

 

[Chebchoub]

The problem is that simple users are the ones who bring volume and money to the rooms. I believe that around 70% of the money distributed in freerolls returns to the room as players end up paying buy-in with the money they get in the freeroll. The PS shot itself in the foot by eliminating freerolls. Could have reduced or added tournament prize money that cannot be withdrawn.

As for the leadership being with GG Poker now, in my opinion it is completely normal for Poker rooms to rotate the leadership. The PS was the leader for a long time. Now the GG. At some point another room will take the lead. You can't stay in the lead forever. And it's good even for us players that there is this rotation. The rooms that are left behind end up needing to offer benefits to bring players back.
As for freerolls on PS, I hope things on PS get even worse. Then they will return with freerolls to bring players back.

Good explanation. The PokerStars administration has lost itself before it has lost its users. I hope this administration will change, because it will really extinguish the star of this room.

 

[Pabloro10321]

PS stalls in time, while GG advances by leaps and bounds

 

[Acechador]

It's called Karma, they killed FTP, in my opinion the best poker room I've ever played at... PS eliminated all of its dangerous competition and now GG has rescued poker... I personally haven't played at PS for over a year.

 

[Chebchoub]

Why do people play freerolls? Yes, I know that Norwegian Annette Obrestad won topdollar on freerolls 15 years ago. Does anybody today?

Freeroll tournaments are an integral part of poker rooms and casinos. We care about them because sometimes they are the only way to have fun, or to win some dollars to play with. Since I started playing poker, I have seen valuable freeroll tournaments in most rooms, including casinos as well. .
We are discussing the issue from the perspective of the custom that applies to all poker rooms and for those interested in freeroll tournaments.

 

[Chebchoub]

Because you 'believe it'. Because maybe that's the case for yourself? Because personally I believe that 90% of the money won from CC freerolls was NOT put back on the site. IF it had been, I don't know if Pokerstars would've stopped offering the games.

I hate to break it to you but 'simple users' (in this case let's be honest, we're referring to NON-DEPOSITING FREEROLLERS) do NOT bring 'money' to the rooms. IF they did, do you honestly think Pokerstars would cease offering freerolls?
I have a feeling that they have some staff that is far more experienced regarding this stuff than someone like myself. At one point in time (YEARS ago during the poker boom), offering up Freerolls was a great way to 'introduce' players to a poker site, to get them playing on there for REAL money, in hopes that they would actually move towards becoming a 'DEPOSITING REAL MONEY PLAYER' (real money.. not 'penny player').

Maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps they've just made the biggest mistake EVER by cancelling the freerolls.

Here's a question for you (& others). If offering up the Freerolls is a great business decision, then why doesn't GGPoker have any freerolls going? (and yet they've become the largest online site in the world...... hmm.. so confusing).

And why is it that CC members aren't complaining about GGPoker? I mean GG only offered freerolls to CC members for a very short period of time (compared with what Pokerstars offered). And yet they are just given a pass?

What I find disturbing is posts suggesting that Pokerstars is done (or will be done soon), or it is the worst site ever, etc. etc. etc. So much trashing of the site. Meanwhile, a year ago when they were offering up games DAILY to CC members, the freerollers thought Pokerstars was the GREATEST site ever!

Help a person out for awhile... they'll tell you that you're the best person EVER! Stop giving them money and all of a sudden you are a TERRIBLE person... and everything you've given them up to this point in time all of a sudden means absolutely nothing.

If you want to call this being a fanboy... fly at 'er.

fwiw, I'm not a big fan of the Pokerstars site. They were never my favorite in my 17yrs. of playing online poker. And they certainly dropped way down the list when they changed their Rewards Program, ripping off a bunch of their most dedicated regular players. And when they chose to raise the rake & tourney fees on the micro & Low buyin games. < This was absolutely shooting themselve's in the foot. (what a shame!).

And for those on here who seem to want Pokerstars to fail (and 'end'), I hate to break it to you but this would be very bad for online poker. Not only would it limit where people can play, & not only would it eliminate Mixed Games Tournaments... and some Great series that run (WCOOP, SCOOP), but it would also eliminate competition and GGPoker would (could... or maybe already is starting to be) become a Monopoly (similar to what happened to online poker from Pokerstars and the 'more rake is good' B.S.).

The quality of the freeroll they offer is what made the majority of users stay away from PokerStars. We are discussing the issue in the hope that this room will return to what it was before. Our attachment and love for this room is what made our dissatisfaction like this.
We do not deny what PokerStars and other rooms have given us, but rather we resent what they have become now.

 

[Chebchoub]

I didn't mean to bruise your Ego with my comment. I'm not sure what you're attempting to do with this ^ comment?
It seems your perception is way off. Maybe it's a language translation issue?

I think you have some money in Pokerstars now never mind, they don't care what we say about them, because they are busy with those with a large deposit😜

 

[Jean-Guy]

PokerStars has obviously failed. As you know, IKEA and Spotify are Swedish-owned. It's GG Poker also. The Swedes understand big business. Headquarter in Toronto though.

 

[Poker Orifice]

The quality of the freeroll they offer is what made the majority of users stay away from PokerStars. We are discussing the issue in the hope that this room will return to what it was before. Our attachment and love for this room is what made our dissatisfaction like this.
We do not deny what PokerStars and other rooms have given us, but rather we resent what they have become now.

There is no sense in trying to talk sense with you... but I will make one last attempt >> You do realize how a business works... right?

When you look at the Lobby on Pokerstars, what are you labelling as 'the majority of users'?

 

[black and]

The days of PokerStars are coming to an end. I think that this site will be sold to other investors and perhaps after the change of management, the process of restoring lost positions and opportunities will begin, or everything will end and there will be nothing.

 

[valeski 28]

In spite of its current traffic is not good as years before, PokerStars still attracts many players around the world.I only stopped playing there due to regulations in my country.Lucky the guys who still can play there.

 

[BrunoFabri01]

It's sad, after they changed several policies, removed freerolls, and other things, I ended up getting discouraged from playing on PS

 

[Sparta77]

Is ggpoker the biggest poker room in the world?

 

[mr.fers_one]

yes, Pokerstars loses to GG, but not in everything... pokerstars has the most reliable cash register, there you can definitely not worry about your money, which cannot be said about GG and the policy they pursue against plus players... if PS loses, then not much and not in everything)))

 

[hardongear]

Seems like a good spot to leave this.....

https://download.good-game-network.com/assets/certificate/bmm.pdf

Oh then there is this...

https://authorisation.mga.org.mt/verification.aspx?lang=EN&company=79421949-79f7-4433-bdb8-fceb0f364261&details=1

Cheers!!!

 

[ProVet]

GGpoker is currently the leader in the poker industry

 

[pentazepam]

If you play mostly for fun PokerStars has one big advantage (for me at least) left: A lot more variations of games.

Can you play anything other than NLH and PLO on GGpoker?

The grind gets boring as f.ck after a while.

More Mixed Games to the people.

 

[Chebchoub]

There is no sense in trying to talk sense with you... but I will make one last attempt >> You do realize how a business works... right?

When you look at the Lobby on Pokerstars, what are you labelling as 'the majority of users'?

I previously praised PokerStars when it was offering normal free tournaments like other rooms, and I still see that PS is the best program and application in terms of smooth gameplay. The freeroll is something we all want, without exception, depositing players and non-depositing players.
In the past, we used to sit and play alongside professional players and depositors in valuable, medium-sized daily tournaments that opened opportunities for depositors, freerollers, beginners, and professionals, without discrimination or bias towards any category.
We do not deny that PS offers valuable satellites now, but the majority of these satellites are restricted by rules that do not leave room for freerollers to achieve any results due to rebuy, speed, and the amount of chips.
I consider PokerStars to be among the best poker rooms, and I hope that it will return to what it was before, and expel those who were the cause of his miserliness with freerollers.😁😂😂😂😂

 

[RALF_AK]

...over the years, PS is not paying good Rakes and prizes in MTT tournaments... Sit&Go were removed from the grid and with that GG grew a lot, as it is paying good prizes and has a very good rake, in addition to the daily bonuses.

 

[KrazyKoo]

Breaking News:

PokerStars has new casher

The new cashier looks atrocious.. the old one was buggy but the visuals were better!

 

[steve01991]

since they are concentrating on the casino aspect, i am afraid they will lose all their poker players

 

[Gritz18]

The new cashier looks atrocious..

It's all a matter of taste, in my opinion not much has changed, I think it's even cleaner.🙂