PKR - BAD BEAT OVERDOSE

[stepneg]

IMO PKR seems to reward manic players, you can sit there playing tight night after night only to get out drawn time and time again by complete rubbish.

The amount of fluke flush and straight draws is unbelievable, yes it happens thats poker but not to the degree it does on PKR, their game just doesn't feel natural.

 

[switch0723]

lol check out my awsomely noob comment above, always got be be wary of the truth. I dont really know why i posted that

Also stepneg, one hell of an avater, good old gemma atkinson, she may be a complete tool but is HOWT

 

[MetraDynamix]

Wrong

My 2 cents on this, something is up at PKR. I have read all the theories and such, but PKR is wrong. I played there for about 20 hours a day, over the course of two weeks. This just does not feel like natural poker.

My mind is set that place is rigged.

 

[Egon Towst]

My mind is set that place is rigged.

Please, please, please may we have some evidence ?

Perhaps you are right, but how can we know ? I can say my mind is set that the moon is made of green cheese, but that doesn`t make it so.

This is an internet forum and we do not know each other. We cannot tell who the poster is or how reliable they may be. For all you know, I am typing this from the secure wing of the State Mental Institution.

It doesn`t work to give unsupported opinion. If you want us to believe something unlikely, you must give evidence.

 

[ph_il]

No online poker site gives me a natural poker feel. They all must be rigged then.

i know this is an old thread but i have 2 say there is somthing up at pkr

ive had 2 many bad beats on this and it started when was beginng to run all over the fish on this site
...How many is too many and out of how many hands have you played there?

think about it small sites dont want u ruinng all over there tables so they stop u end of i left this site now plus the rake is far 2 hight and animation just makes the gams slow
...What Im thinking about is why I have yet to see a single punctuation mark in your post. If you're a good player, you'll see the potential money to be made in a small site filled with weaker players rather than focus on a few bad results and claims of it being rigged. Honestly, they have more to lose than gain by 'rigging' their site. If the animation and rake is too much for you and you want to leave because of that, then do so.

and why has this link had so many veiwers bat beats at pkr
thats why
...Oh, yeah! So many bad reviews...geez! Cuz <10 rigged complaints is a lot.

and 2 u who dont think get a pack of real cards give yourself pockt aces a random hand and see how many times they get beat not meny aces on pkr lose all the time
...Hmmm, I think my aces are going to lose about 20% of the time. Here is where punctuation helps: Are you saying that not many aces on PKR lose all the time? Thats great! Get you're money in there when you have bullets! Unless you think winning with aces constantly is rigged.

i maybe paraniod "but that doesnt mean that pkr arnt looking after there own intrests"
...I dont think you're paranoid. I think you're just a bit upset at a few beats.

above

 

[MetraDynamix]

PKR RIGGED EVIDENCE

I do have some evidence. Go to PKR and Play on Ring Games for real money. Change your view to ORBIT VIEW and when the dealer has dealt the cards to all of the players, and they place them down on the table, you will notice in some instances card glitch patterns.

If both of your cards glitch, or someone's elses cards, it means that Preflop they are at a high disadvantage. If the one card glitch, normally it means that this card's kicker is too low compared to others.

Pay close attention to this and you will see that this is the reality.

 

[KyleJRM]

SSOIDH

 

[Monoxide]

I do have some evidence. Go to PKR and Play on Ring Games for REAL MONEY. Change your view to ORBIT VIEW and when the dealer has dealt the cards to all of the players, and they place them down on the table, you will notice in some instances card glitch patterns.

If both of your cards glitch, or someone's elses cards, it means that Preflop they are at a high disadvantage. If the one card glitch, normally it means that this card's kicker is too low compared to others.

Pay close attention to this and you will see that this is the reality.

hahahahahahahahhahahahaa

Ok, did that, failed in noticing a glitch? maybe your comp sucks and its lag.

omgomgomgogmogmgomgomgogmgom this thread sucks so bad, you guys need to stop the Q_Q

Realistic facts about PKR: Pick 1 please.

A) you are bad players and its not PKR, you suck, end of story, go play scrabble.

B) you are very unlucky, cold streak, it happens deal with it. If you can't go play scrabble.

 

[MetraDynamix]

Facts about you

Facts about you Monoxide, you are probably too high to be attentive to such details. Anyone with the slightest intelligence whom would sit At PKR and look for this details over a few thousands of hands would find the same conclusion.

Something is definitely up with that. I do not think that a RAID-5 Server with SLI 9800 Video Cards would be a crappy computer. These are not random glitches, and PKR even banned my chat, because I was sharing this with other players and they started noticing the same facts.

 

[Monoxide]

Hmmmm, yes maybe I am too high, but not high enough to see things that are not there.

Ive played as many hands as you and ive failed to see anything. and ive gone deeeeeeeeep in their tournaments (1 FT) and faired quite well in PKR low stakes ring games.

Trust me, ive stared at the cards, and players, the grindingly slow pace of PKR software ( realism i guess) the cards are all delt the same.

 

[MetraDynamix]

Hmm

Then you have missed the point.

You must be in Orbit view, and once the cards are dealt and the avatars look at them and place them down on the table. That's when the patterns occur, the second that they place them down on the table.

It is very obvious in Orbit view if you position your view to see the whole table.

 

[Monoxide]

Dude that could easily be a graphics glitch, if thats what you are basing it on.

I tried with orbit view but could not see anything out of the norm....in no way could the cards/graphics intermingle to show a greater chance of winning by the way they "glitch" or whatnot thats just ridiculous.

 

[MetraDynamix]

Huhuh

Then you are blind or ignorant, potentially both. What can we do, if you refuse to see reality there is nothing that i can do. Others see it, and have agreed that there is definitely some type of pattern involved here.

 

[Dwilius]

Then you are blind or ignorant, potentially both. What can we do, if you refuse to see reality there is nothing that i can do. Others see it, and have agreed that there is definitely some type of pattern involved here.

I change my vote for MOTM

 

[pokerrqueenn]

I change my vote for MOTM

lol

 

[Don_Nouri]

Guys i wanna bump this topic.

I also think PKR is rigged or at least to call Un-Natural. I played there for a long time and had my share in winnings. But i always had the feeling there was something fishy.

Now since i been playing other sites as pokerstars and Full Tilt i came to the conclusion that i never ever had the feeling it was unnatural and with PKR i get this all the time.

It is because of the things mentioned before. It's so many many many times that the massive UNDERDOG hits his card on the turn or river. Mostly on river. Now i come to post here cause it happend to me a lot again in the last 2 days. NOw in this tournament some dude who didnt know how to play at all and he was only fishing. And what do u think? I see him 3 or 4 times call all-ins with crap and hit on the river. Which the last one was vs me. This dude is the chip leader on the table.

Now i know how to play good poker really. And when i play on Full Tilt its just normal. YOu get bad beats now and then but thats poker.

Also on PKR it happens i get NO hand for like 45 minutes...NO JOKE

45 minutes of 3,9 j,4 3,6 etc etc etc. Now this also never happens to me IRL or at Full Tilt. I mean how can i play poker when i get absolute nothing not even suited connectors for 45 min?

What someone mentions above about the glitch i never noticed and seems very unlikely to me.

But that PKR is unnatural poker software is 100% clear for me.

 

[Egon Towst]

Oh, goody. Let`s go around again, because that`s what we really like.

Refer to post #29 in this thread, please, and provide evidence as requested.

 

[kschuster]

how exactly do these poker sites manage their "random" card drawing generators??

 

[Egon Towst]

The reputable sites have independent auditors check their systems for fairness and randomness. This (for example) is the certificate displayed on Titan`s website:


RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR

Titan Poker's software, developed and maintained by Playtech, uses a true random number generator to ensure total game integrity.
Playtech's gaming software carries an official Certificate of RNG Evaluation from Technical Systems Testing (TST), an internationally recognized and respected Accredited Testing Facility (ATF). TST has been working with industry operators, suppliers, manufactures and regulators to ensure that gaming products operate in a manner that is fair, secure and auditable and comply with some of the world's most stringent and comprehensive legislative and regulatory requirements.
TST laboratories provide fully independent and impartial testing and certifications for industry operators, suppliers, manufactures and regulators. TST analyzes system software and equipment, and the environments in which they operate, against manfacturer's specifications, legislative and regulatory requirements, and to generally accepted industry standards.
TST's services are delivered by a multi-disciplined team of trained computer scientists, engineers, mathematicians and information systems auditors, possessing first hand knowledge and experience in today's leading edge technologies. TST provides an impartial service that is renowned for its probity and fair dealing. It is a common belief that total impartiality of a testing facility is paramount in ensuring an unbiased evaluation.

 

[Dagon7]

sorry for beating a dead horse

The software is fine, the interface is great, I used to play PKR all the time.
Why did I stop? Same reason, too many times I would get sucked out by some jerk who would then hit the laugh his As off button multiple times. The following is full of generalizations so please don't think I'm out to offend

The flaws are
1. PKR is a much more international crowd vs. poker stars or Full Tilt, I'm not sure if they allow US players now, but I know they didn't when I was active, therefore the players are not saturated by poker constantly, they dont watch poker after dark, WPT or even come to a place like a cards chat so they don't neccasarily know that A6 is not a great hand pre flop in a table with 10 players so they are much more likely to call or or go all in so you with AK are subject to a chop or the other player not hitting his 6.

2. Because of the animated avitars people are much more likely to play emotionaly, I know the clucking chicken would put me on tilt every now and again. so how can you gauge solid play when half the time people are acting on impulse?

3. PKR is more of a video game than a poker room, you can make money but it's just too eratic to build a BR so just go, deposit 10 bucks in quarters and have some fun, then switch to full tilt and build your roll.

 

[Egon Towst]

You may be right, Dagon. I would be inclined to agree that PKR has a higher percentage of weak players than (for example) Full Tilt.

I accept your point that this makes the play erratic, and therefore variance may be higher.

I think you will agree, however, that over the long run it must be preferable (more profitable) to play against inept opponents ?

 

[Dagon7]

It's like it says in your sig. sophisticated plays against unsophisticated players....
but I may be too weak myself to resist busting the guy calling me a chicken when he's moved all in pre flop and I'm looking at AK. I also find it easier to focus on the game with less superfluous stimuli and it's less frustrating when your AK is busted by QQ than A rag. I wasn't able to go to far on PKR but that may be more of a reflection of my own faults, my main point is that when you get called with a wider range of hands, the pattern of seemingly bad beats will emerge, and that the interface may induce a more eratic style of play than most.

 

[RickH2005]

Geez! I get beat onna regular onna Riv, or by better cards being dealt to my opponant. It's not because the sites are set up to give the under dog better cards (rigged) and it's not because I play bad poker, 'cuz I don't (not great--I'm really just a beginner!). It's just---'That's the way it goes'-- Call it whatever you want--Luck--Variance--Whatever--You're not going to win every hand every time! No matter WHAT site you play at!

 

[Monoxide]

There is no "pattern" of bad beats, you are creating the patterns with your brain, such things do not exist.

Its just mind boggling how some of you think internet poker differs from real poker.

 

[Monoxide]

Also on PKR it happens i get NO hand for like 45 minutes...NO JOKE

45 minutes of 3,9 j,4 3,6 etc etc etc. Now this also never happens to me IRL or at Full Tilt. I mean how can i play poker when i get absolute nothing not even suited connectors for 45 min?

wat.

Ive gone card dead at the casino for over 4 hours before. 45 minutes is bad? You are not a poker player. You lack patience my young apprentice.

Dont bullshit people, your sample size is pathetic.