Michael Paler
Legend
Silver Level
[quote\]I have been to Europe and do covet a lot of the things they have in norway, like paying people NOT to work, mandatory vacations, both the man and woman getting a year off to have a kid, etc. However, their health system could be better (a problem with a lot of National Health Systems), they make less adjusted wealth than the avg American, and they don't seem to have as vast a food network as the US. I don't like having daylight last that long either.[/quote]
Paying people not to work. Come on. Think about that. The money has to come from someplace. Why do they have such high unemployment? Because it is impossible to make money if you have to spend more than you make on people who are not even working. One year off, with pay. Good lord. Clearly, you do not own a business. Why should a company pay you to take a year off to have a kid? WTF? Come on. That just isn't realistic, and a large part of why no companies want to open up shop there. It's just crazy. Pretty soon, NO ONE is actually working for you, they are all off for one reason or another. What then? So, if you poured all your savings into a business and the quality of your products suffered, your shipments were all late, you started losing business because 3/4 of your workforce is off having a kid or some other BS, you would be fine going out of business, having your family starve, losing all your money so some lazy schmuck can sit on his/her azz for a year at home on your dime? I seriously doubt you would take that lying down.
[quote\]The Walton Family possess more wealth than the bottom 41.5% of Americans (I said only 30%) primarily through 9 main heirs. http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/18/business/la-fi-mo-walmart-heirs-20120718 [/quote]
So, what, you would rather my poor neighbor go to the corner store for her kids diapers and have to pay 30% more than she has too at Wal Mart? Kind of cold, don't you think? What about Opra? One billion, isn't it? The Kardashians? What about old Michael Moore? Did you know that Al Gore has amassed close to some 200 million? So, Wal Mart evil, Al gore saint? Apparently.
[quote\]Another common Wal Mart figure is that for every 2 Wal Mart jobs created, 2.8 REAL jobs are lost. Wal Mart jobs start at $21k per year. Wal Mart employees cost the US taxpayers $1.5b per year in health care expenses because employees are paid too little to pay for their own care. sumofus.org/walmart-at-50/[/quote]
I'll save some time here. Everything above in that paragraph is complete and total made up bullshit. All based on loose supposition, zero facts, and a hatred of Wal Mart that does not apply to any other organization or person who makes as much or has as much. It's just made up BS. So, if it is true, then EVERY minimum wage job and company that offers minimum wage positions are costing, somehow, more jobs than they offer. Only Wal Mart employees cost US taxpayers in health care costs. Only them. Not any other place that has a minimum wage job, right? Or, could it be they refuse to accept Unions, and that is what the real issue is. Of course it is. Total BS. Bad Wal Mart min wage jobs, good min wage jobs everywhere else.
[quote\]Anyways, I'm not an advocate for Communism and am very proud to be an American. I hope I didn't strike a nerve with you because you escaped from a Socialist country or anything like that, as that would be awful, although it kind of sounds like you might be an American from you're name, the way you write, and a Republican possibly from your MSNBC comment. I don't typically watch that or Fox News. I prefer my news unbiased, although that is difficult to come by now days. Anyways, good luck at the tables! :beer:[/quote]
Over the years and in my travels I have made friends with, associated with, etc, men and women who have come from these horrible areas of the world or still live in them. Many would gladly like to have a Wal Mart, to shop in or to work at. All would cringe at your nieve and callus observations. The targeting of Wal Mart is simply driven by the fact that they will not go union. Thank God. With a Union, you get those things that you covet so much. Lazy no-goods being paid to lay on their azz at home while the rest of us have to actually work. Higher prices for my neighbors who are already struggling. Just so they can be lazy, and the union can make money off of the current workers.
You peg me as a possible republican, I can easily peg you as a supporter of Unions, and therefore, a big Liberal. They who have bankrupted my city. Ruined the lives of many a friend and family member by the never ending cry for "more! more!" until there is no more. Then the Company is shut down, the employees are laid off, and the Union hierarchy gets to go do it again to another company. They never lose their job. They Never lose their house. It is never their fault. NEVER.
I really wish you would think a little about this garbage you have posted as some kind of an example of just what, I have no idea.
Paying people not to work. Come on. Think about that. The money has to come from someplace. Why do they have such high unemployment? Because it is impossible to make money if you have to spend more than you make on people who are not even working. One year off, with pay. Good lord. Clearly, you do not own a business. Why should a company pay you to take a year off to have a kid? WTF? Come on. That just isn't realistic, and a large part of why no companies want to open up shop there. It's just crazy. Pretty soon, NO ONE is actually working for you, they are all off for one reason or another. What then? So, if you poured all your savings into a business and the quality of your products suffered, your shipments were all late, you started losing business because 3/4 of your workforce is off having a kid or some other BS, you would be fine going out of business, having your family starve, losing all your money so some lazy schmuck can sit on his/her azz for a year at home on your dime? I seriously doubt you would take that lying down.
[quote\]The Walton Family possess more wealth than the bottom 41.5% of Americans (I said only 30%) primarily through 9 main heirs. http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/18/business/la-fi-mo-walmart-heirs-20120718 [/quote]
So, what, you would rather my poor neighbor go to the corner store for her kids diapers and have to pay 30% more than she has too at Wal Mart? Kind of cold, don't you think? What about Opra? One billion, isn't it? The Kardashians? What about old Michael Moore? Did you know that Al Gore has amassed close to some 200 million? So, Wal Mart evil, Al gore saint? Apparently.
[quote\]Another common Wal Mart figure is that for every 2 Wal Mart jobs created, 2.8 REAL jobs are lost. Wal Mart jobs start at $21k per year. Wal Mart employees cost the US taxpayers $1.5b per year in health care expenses because employees are paid too little to pay for their own care. sumofus.org/walmart-at-50/[/quote]
I'll save some time here. Everything above in that paragraph is complete and total made up bullshit. All based on loose supposition, zero facts, and a hatred of Wal Mart that does not apply to any other organization or person who makes as much or has as much. It's just made up BS. So, if it is true, then EVERY minimum wage job and company that offers minimum wage positions are costing, somehow, more jobs than they offer. Only Wal Mart employees cost US taxpayers in health care costs. Only them. Not any other place that has a minimum wage job, right? Or, could it be they refuse to accept Unions, and that is what the real issue is. Of course it is. Total BS. Bad Wal Mart min wage jobs, good min wage jobs everywhere else.
[quote\]Anyways, I'm not an advocate for Communism and am very proud to be an American. I hope I didn't strike a nerve with you because you escaped from a Socialist country or anything like that, as that would be awful, although it kind of sounds like you might be an American from you're name, the way you write, and a Republican possibly from your MSNBC comment. I don't typically watch that or Fox News. I prefer my news unbiased, although that is difficult to come by now days. Anyways, good luck at the tables! :beer:[/quote]
Over the years and in my travels I have made friends with, associated with, etc, men and women who have come from these horrible areas of the world or still live in them. Many would gladly like to have a Wal Mart, to shop in or to work at. All would cringe at your nieve and callus observations. The targeting of Wal Mart is simply driven by the fact that they will not go union. Thank God. With a Union, you get those things that you covet so much. Lazy no-goods being paid to lay on their azz at home while the rest of us have to actually work. Higher prices for my neighbors who are already struggling. Just so they can be lazy, and the union can make money off of the current workers.
You peg me as a possible republican, I can easily peg you as a supporter of Unions, and therefore, a big Liberal. They who have bankrupted my city. Ruined the lives of many a friend and family member by the never ending cry for "more! more!" until there is no more. Then the Company is shut down, the employees are laid off, and the Union hierarchy gets to go do it again to another company. They never lose their job. They Never lose their house. It is never their fault. NEVER.
I really wish you would think a little about this garbage you have posted as some kind of an example of just what, I have no idea.
