'Black Friday' and associated fallout megathread

[TorreyB]

Hmm...wonder what would happen if i asked a friend from europe to log into my account and alter some stats/withdraw from a euro ip?

It would be easier to transfer it to their poker account, and then have them withdraw to their bank and just send it to you from western union. You'd lose a small fee from western union, but it's not much.

 

[c9h13no3]

Yeah if anyone has info about cash outs/what to do from anyone official that'd be great to pass on.

 

[JBDood16]

This is such B.S. god damn. I just started playing again and was building a BR pretty well.

We are adults let us do as we please. Shutting down poker sites is a priority? How bout you go figure out where all the bail out money went instead.

 

[TylerN]

71 viewing this thread thats when u know there is a problem

 

[blueskies]

Wait, I am not home now. Can we still play? Will FT still honor the Take 2 payments?

Damn I should have taken all my $ out.

I have a $100 check withdrawal pending... I am screwed, aren't I? I worked hard at micros to earn it.

 

[Pokertron3000]

Just want to offer some space for grinders to come live in England, we have a spare room and flat we could squeeze 10 or more in, living conditions will be squalid and we take visa and paypal 100$ a week with ramen cups thrown in GG USA

 

[RamdeeBen]

Oh my god.

I don't even understand this.

Fraud? What the ****?..

 

[kidkvno1]

This is BS. the US is looking for a way to fill a hole, were the **** is the PPA.

 

[MuscleMan76]

This is crazy.

I just spent all my player points on stars, not enough to get anything on tilt.

 

[JoeShowdown]

I feel sick. I got big moneys on these sites. Ironic how I felt bad yesterday when I lost 200 on ftp. Now, I'm thinking f it who wants to play me headsup for rolls.

I won a ticket to that game of your life on stars and tried registering for the 100k game sunday. It won't let me. Can't even play a dam freeroll! Or do the 1500 fpp platinum star satty to the $1million quarterly.

 

[JOEBOB69]

How long to ya think it will take to hear from the sites?

 

[cAPSLOCK]

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[cAPSLOCK]

In before page 47!

 

[Journeyman98]

This is bull shit! Why in the hell does the government see the need to "crack down" on poker?

the beginning of prokerbition

 

[Journeyman98]

How long to ya think it will take to hear from the sites?

if they stay the course, pokerstars will not have anything to say, imo

 

[c9h13no3]

From my banking statement:

02/22/2011 - Deposit - AUTOMATED CREDIT FTILT FTPAYMENTS - $C9's Whole Roll

I'm feelin' pretty smart right now. Now if only I can get the money I had on stars off....

 

[MuscleMan76]

This is bull shit! Why in the hell does the government see the need to "crack down" on poker?

the beginning of prokerbition

Tax revenue.

 

[dmorris68]

(cross-post from cash chat thread)

Thankfully I have withdrawn all but a few hundred bucks between PS and FT that I'd like to get out but it's not a big deal. But I've built a pretty significant BR on a Merge site that I'm now contemplating grabbing while I can (assuming I can).

IANAL, but every legal explanation I've seen of UIGEA gives it jurisdiction over financial institutions and sites, but not players themselves. The interstate gambling cites they keep spouting are likely Wire Act citations, which has never been upheld to apply to online poker -- it was written to cover interstate book making and sports betting long before the internet even existed. DOJ always throws it out there in their shotgun attempt at trying to make things stick in these cases, but it's widely acknowledged that it would be a significant uphill climb for them to use the Wire Act against online poker players, since the language of the law is so specific to the type of gambling it targeted then.

 

[Pokertron3000]

From my banking statement:

02/22/2011 - Deposit - AUTOMATED CREDIT FTILT FTPAYMENTS - $C9's Whole Roll

I'm feelin' pretty smart right now. Now if only I can get the money I had on stars off....

Gl C9 and everyone else getting monies off, I think you guys may have to get creative quick. I would find somebody you trust 100% and try get something sorted asap, pretty crappy day.

 

[onemorechance]

Oh my god.

I don't even understand this.

Fraud? What the ****?..

Here's the court order

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/April11/scheinbergetalindictmentpr.pdf

..

 

[ruth99]

FBI and the New York US Attorney’s office has u

http://www.gamesandcasino.com/gambling-news/goverment-seizes-major-online-poker-domains/1700.htm

News in just now being broke that the FBI and the New York US Attorney’s office has unsealed an indictment today charging eleven defendants and seizing the domains of three major online poker sites including PokerStars, full tilt poker, and Absolute Poker.

 

[volc90]

plenty of other things they could be doing around the country, but the smell of money brought them here. Never fails... Good ole government

 

[Brave_n_Crazy]

What's really interesting is that the government of Antigua and Barbuda filed a complaint with the World Trade Organization in 2003 regarding the US and online gambling and essentially won in 2007, when they were allowed to deduct 21$million annually from any obligations they have to the US. In other words, it appears that the US is in violation of agreements they have with the WTO and have been for some time. Ah, the joys of suspect moral superiority, eh?

 

[onemorechance]

What's kind of funny that under all this is the revelation that Scott Tom still owns UB lol

 

[jazzaxe]

They can get around this if they change the website names. Didn't bodog have this problem a couple of years ago and they changed their domain and it is still going?