Do you trust online poker?

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Each and every single site we play on is rigged its important to recognize this so we dont lose who we are and go nuts playing a game. Some sites will even admit this except they dont use the word rigged. Even the best most fair site has bots and collusion, no site can prevent someones mind saying hey i want to create this poker software or im going collude with my buddy. They can ban those accounts and more people will just decide they want to do this.

So we can see the truth of the rig before we even talk about any RNG.

But what about all the sites that were caught cheating or that closed and people didnt get their money ? Is it safe to say that because handfuls of these sites have disappeared or had superusers that this will never ever happen again because all poker sites are good now ? This would be ridiculous thinking.

This is the nature of poker, of a rake system. Do you think they would open up shop for the purpose of losing money ? The casinos way of thinking is to give you free meals and make you feel welcome because they know they are going to win in the end.
 
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I trust pokerstars
but I play at Americascardroom
i'm hoping to gain the same 100% trust in them I have
at Pokerstars.
if youre looking for a place you can trust....,
read the reviews on poker sites and pick the trusted ones
 
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I had just experienced a few serious bad beats in a row on PS, it really makes me furious. Is it just me or that site is just abnormally rewarding underdogs? I mean it is almost like A5 is favourite against AK on that site..
 
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I trust, but PS roulette solo 20 same color even even bets were very suspicious then. Should have sticked to poker.
 
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This doubt often comes to my mind, especially when I am preflop allin with AA and I lose to the guy that had smaller chipsstack than me but yet he decided to call me with some unreal cards, like J5 offsuited... I know this can happen, it's all about odds and risk but I had this story so many times that at the end I begin to wonder if it is not some kind of set up? I noticed that often I get beaten in this way by the guys that are playing several tourneys at the same time, some of them with expensive entry fee. That makes me think - is that some way of rewarding these kind of players for spending more money?
 
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It is really sad how many times good hands get destroyed by some clown calling your big push bet with 75 off or 86 off suit only to see them hit runner runner to destroy your set or pocket rockets. I do not believe all of these on line sites are on the straight and narrow, Nor do I believe the algorythims work correctly. Years ago we saw this with a site I wont mention. We have also heard of the reports of people caught cheating with inside information or several accounts rigged. Bottom line I play some. But if I want a real game I go to the poker room at the casinos. I cant say I always win but I do well there. I cannot say the same with online poker.
 
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Online poker is safe and if you play it in safe and secure known poker rooms, you do not have to worry about problems.



Even the most safe poker rooms will have bots and collusion, they will get banned, but more will decide to do this.

Therefore rigged is rigged even before we make a RNG shuffle argument that is just a yes it is no it isnt argument without any data or proof.

Whereas the bots and collusion is factual.
 
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if you dont trust then dont play, nobody forces you to play
 
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I think there is not such a thing as trust or not trus online poker.
There is only skill, luck and bad luck. Ohhh and dont forget about bad bets...
Many people call it MissClick haha
But yeah there are situations that someone wins with 7 2 not suited, but theye are donkeys and they loosing finally.
 
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If I didn't trust an online game, I wouldn't play.In live poker it happens that hair stand on end,it seems to you because you play more hands online.So everything is fine!:)[FONT=arial, sans-serif]
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I agree sometime u just feel the game is trying to put u out .I see people do bad calls all the time and get rewarded for it..also feel bot are the real problem like they know what hand to call and win ...very weird

I agree. I was playing on the Venom freeroll on ACR on a full table and everyone was inactive except myself and one player. Many times during the game when I folded the active player against the inactive player checks down all the way to the river. I keep messaging for the player to bet against the inactive players but he continued doing the same. This happens many times on ACR's freeroll. Register on those freerolls and see what I'm talking about.

This doubt often comes to my mind, especially when I am preflop allin with AA and I lose to the guy that had smaller chipsstack than me but yet he decided to call me with some unreal cards, like J5 offsuited... I know this can happen, it's all about odds and risk but I had this story so many times that at the end I begin to wonder if it is not some kind of set up? I noticed that often I get beaten in this way by the guys that are playing several tourneys at the same time, some of them with expensive entry fee. That makes me think - is that some way of rewarding these kind of players for spending more money?

ai, bots, etc., and many other are reasons why i'm so scared to deposit money to play online anymore. Online poker is not the same as it was 10 years ago. It's just too risky now a days imo. :icon_puke

if you dont trust then dont play, nobody forces you to play

He knows that and we all know that TheRaven68. The question is about if we trust online poker not why we have to play. :rolleyes:

yes we can trust online poker, this games are interesting and our mind is thinking fast while we play poker game.

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It is really sad how many times good hands get destroyed by some clown calling your big push bet with 75 off or 86 off suit only to see them hit runner runner to destroy your set or pocket rockets. I do not believe all of these on line sites are on the straight and narrow, Nor do I believe the algorythims work correctly. Years ago we saw this with a site I wont mention. We have also heard of the reports of people caught cheating with inside information or several accounts rigged. Bottom line I play some. But if I want a real game I go to the poker room at the casinos. I cant say I always win but I do well there. I cannot say the same with online poker.

Yep Yep I agree. :five:
 
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]I trust distrusting, or until the moment I leak something, anyway I think companies with the great market competition would not spoil their business to benefit player A or B

 
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I agree. I was playing on the Venom freeroll on ACR on a full table and everyone was inactive except myself and one player. Many times during the game when I folded the active player against the inactive player checks down all the way to the river. I keep messaging for the player to bet against the inactive players but he continued doing the same. This happens many times on ACR's freeroll. Register on those freerolls and see what I'm talking about.


Oh i forgot to mention that also times when I folded he folded as well instead of betting to take the blinds. Just really weird :dontknow: Like I said, it happens all the time on these freerolls. Check it out for yourself.:burnout:

Weird things happen from time to time in poker,but thats normal,and you see it a lot more online then live because you play a lot more hands online.


Have you heard about bots? Well, welcome to 2019 online poker :hello:

I trust.Online poker is not rigged. :hmpf:

I'm sorry but I'm just so dang frustrated playing online now a days. I just want to say to the online poker sites and especially ACR: "PLEASE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PLAYERS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE BOTS ON YOUR SITE! GET RID OF THEM!!" :banghead:
:puke: There I feel a little better now... not :(
 
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I'm sorry but I'm just so dang frustrated playing online now a days. I just want to say to the online poker sites and especially ACR: "PLEASE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PLAYERS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE BOTS ON YOUR SITE! GET RID OF THEM!!" :banghead:
:puke: There I feel a little better now... not :(
Play in large poker rooms. For example, PokerStars told the media that it has a very coherent and operational security system that can calculate and eliminate any prohibited program in just a few seconds.
 
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Work on your leaks, fix them and then your "bad beats" won't be so numerous.
 
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I know I don't anymore:0) That sort of stuff seems to happen to me all the time.
 
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I'm thinking about online poker, I'm not going in a round where I'm 2/3 in hand, here comes the card and it appears 3-3-2 and you wonder why I did not play this part? enters for you AA, you bet and think that you will win, your opponent goes with 7/8 and fafaz 2 pairs and wins from you. and so, should I rely on poke online.

It's a good fold that you did. It happens rarely that you get trash cards and you would have made a hand. It's sad when it happens. You made the correct call.
 
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If you really want to start understanding what online poker is all about, start looking at the circumstances surrounding bad beats and bizarre plays, rather than focusing on the results themselves. Ask yourself why the player or bot would have made the play that they did. Make predictions, collect data, and test your predictions. It can be something as simple as a player not being able to win on the 3rd all-in in a row or premium hands being set up to fail against big stacks that have position. Do this and you will start to see what is and what isn't trustworthy.
 
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Play in large poker rooms. For example, PokerStars told the media that it has a very coherent and operational security system that can calculate and eliminate any prohibited program in just a few seconds.

I love PokerStars. But unfortunately I can't play there. I'm praying soon they'll allow US players again.
 
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I trust online poker more than offline
 
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Each and every single site we play on is rigged its important to recognize this so we dont lose who we are and go nuts playing a game. Some sites will even admit this except they dont use the word rigged. Even the best most fair site has bots and collusion, no site can prevent someones mind saying hey i want to create this poker software or im going collude with my buddy. They can ban those accounts and more people will just decide they want to do this.

So we can see the truth of the rig before we even talk about any RNG.

But what about all the sites that were caught cheating or that closed and people didnt get their money ? Is it safe to say that because handfuls of these sites have disappeared or had superusers that this will never ever happen again because all poker sites are good now ? This would be ridiculous thinking.

This is the nature of poker, of a rake system. Do you think they would open up shop for the purpose of losing money ? The casinos way of thinking is to give you free meals and make you feel welcome because they know they are going to win in the end.

Bumping this post because with recent events i think anyone and everyone needs to see this.
 
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Usually occurs in limited games with low buy-in. But poker is a suspicious game, both online and live. I advise to take time at the tables, but as I always said, it's a game of chance.


I'm thinking about online poker, I'm not going in a round where I'm 2/3 in hand, here comes the card and it appears 3-3-2 and you wonder why I did not play this part? enters for you AA, you bet and think that you will win, your opponent goes with 7/8 and fafaz 2 pairs and wins from you. and so, should I rely on poke online.
 
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