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rachelle2291
Legend
Loyaler
That dealer should be shown the door because 'Im gonna call' means 'I am going to call' which by the rules of poker should also mean two other things: a) I am not going to fold and b) I am not going to raise. After saying that the player should be allowed to do only one thing and that is call.
Poker_Mike
Legend
Loyaler
Players need to be very careful about what they say during live poker.
To me - it's similar to being at a live auction - careful with hand waving and even scratching your face!!
I might say, "I'm thinking about calling because I have a very good hand." And of course I'm looking for a reaction from my opponent.
Why would a tournament be different???????????
Of course the villain protests and leaves when the floor agrees with the dealer. And instantly there is less drama at the table! lol
To me - it's similar to being at a live auction - careful with hand waving and even scratching your face!!
Absolutely a declaration to call. The dealer was wrong.
I might say, "I'm thinking about calling because I have a very good hand." And of course I'm looking for a reaction from my opponent.
Because verbal is binding in live poker and the villain clearly made the call.
Well this sucks for you. I like people but I never walk around a live poker table handing a $100 bill to every player at the table. But...ok.
Why would a tournament be different???????????
Correct - and the villain called.
Yes they can. I have seen this same situation and the dealer leans over the table and begins to cut out chips from the villain's stack to make the pot right with the villain's "call".
Of course the villain protests and leaves when the floor agrees with the dealer. And instantly there is less drama at the table! lol
Emily Trott
Legend
Loyaler
Excellent advice. When I first began playing tournaments every Sunday morning, it took about a month for me to end my habit of tapping my finger while I was thinking about what to do with my cards. I missed out more than once on being able to control the action with a raise or bet.
tw082
Legend
Platinum Level
I would say yes it's a call, unless it's not their turn to play and it's know that their just saying that they are going to call if you bet or shove. If it's not their turn they can't call. I have had people tell me if I bet they're gonna shove and then fold to my bet. I usually knew they were full of it b/c who tells you the truth about that kind of thing. Also you are not allowed to call fold bet or anything out of turn. That's bluffing. It's kind of sleezy, but if they tried to place a bet the dealer would not let them bet out of turn. The same rule has to apply to calling.
However, poker rooms could and should have rules against this type of sleezy play. Maybe just a warning but if they kept doing it maybe banned from that poker room.
However, poker rooms could and should have rules against this type of sleezy play. Maybe just a warning but if they kept doing it maybe banned from that poker room.
BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch
Visionary
Bronze Level
i'm looking for cards going to the dealer or chips going past a certain point on the felt to know what's goiong on, Earbuds are a definite must playing. When in doubt, just ask the dealer before acting.
Definitely not a fan of anglers playing silly games like that. I ran into kids knowing crazy detailed rules that were medicre players at best. Those folks are out there so watch out.
Definitely not a fan of anglers playing silly games like that. I ran into kids knowing crazy detailed rules that were medicre players at best. Those folks are out there so watch out.
monkeytilter
Enthusiast
Silver Level
It's on you, don't show until it's clear it's a call - even if that means waiting until the dealer tells you to show your hand. You learned a lesson about vague language, "I would like to call", "I wanna call", "I'm going to call" aren't the same as "I call". Slow down and don't be too hasty especially when there is any doubt, you can avoid sh!tty angles like this in the future.
Poker_Mike
Legend
Loyaler
In the live room I like to play at they will let the action stand unless it is changed by the player who has yet to act.
So if I act by putting chips past the betting line out of turn - that bet has to stay unless one of the players who has yet to act (in turn) raises before me and then I can change my bet including folding.
Again in my room - verbal is binding - they will force the player to call the shove.
The floor will come over and explain it to the "shocked" player.
"I can't just say stuff?" lol
tw082
Legend
Platinum Level
I completely agree with letting the action stand... I am not sure how I feel about verbal being treated as act. I guess as long as all players are aware it's ok. Personally I don't like any cross talk about the hand in play anyway. So I would have no issue, but for a player not used to this rule and enjoys the psychology of cross talk and uses this as a strategy they need to be aware. Also since this is and has been a thing in poker for some time. Even though I don't like it. I am not sure that it's not a part of poker for some people and might fall under the bluffing or psychological play in poker. As I said I don't like it, but I can steel man it a bit in my head. Therefore I am not 100% about how I feel about it.
SPANKYSN
Legend
Bronze Level
Wow...that was just plain wrong. I'm gonna call means that I CALL...I'm thinking of calling means that maybe I will; maybe I won't. Dealer made a bad decision...but then again, he's dealing poker, not doing brain surgery
