Does "I'm gonna call" = "I Call"?

[Four Dogs]

I don't think it was an intentional angle shoot, but I do think he would have if I had waited another 5 seconds. In the end only cost me $40 but yeah, I acted too fast.

 

[rachelle2291]

That dealer should be shown the door because 'Im gonna call' means 'I am going to call' which by the rules of poker should also mean two other things: a) I am not going to fold and b) I am not going to raise. After saying that the player should be allowed to do only one thing and that is call.

 

[Poker_Mike]

Players need to be very careful about what they say during live poker.

To me - it's similar to being at a live auction - careful with hand waving and even scratching your face!!

I'm playing a double board bomb pot. I'm heads up v a player that called the flop then checked the turn and river. I bet $40 with 2 pair At on the bottom and Top pair Ten on the top board. The other player says "I'm gonna call". I turned over my hand and said "I think I may be good on both boards. The other player then folds. And says I didn't call, I was just thinking about it. The dealer agreed that" I'm going to call is not a declaration to call.

Absolutely a declaration to call. The dealer was wrong.

I might say, "I'm thinking about calling because I have a very good hand." And of course I'm looking for a reaction from my opponent.

Why did you flip over your cards before he actually made the call?

Because verbal is binding in live poker and the villain clearly made the call.

I didn't feel like making a scene so I just let it go. I had been chatting with him for a while and he didn't seem like he was intentionally angle shooting. If this had been a tournament I for sure would have called the floor.

Well this sucks for you. I like people but I never walk around a live poker table handing a $100 bill to every player at the table. But...ok.

Why would a tournament be different???????????

I was obligated to show first because I made the bet.

Correct - and the villain called.

even if he said "I call", they can not force him to put chips into the pot.

Yes they can. I have seen this same situation and the dealer leans over the table and begins to cut out chips from the villain's stack to make the pot right with the villain's "call".

Of course the villain protests and leaves when the floor agrees with the dealer. And instantly there is less drama at the table! lol

 

[Emily Trott]

Players need to be very careful about what they say during live poker.

To me - it's similar to being at a live auction - careful with hand waving and even scratching your face!!

Excellent advice. When I first began playing tournaments every Sunday morning, it took about a month for me to end my habit of tapping my finger while I was thinking about what to do with my cards. I missed out more than once on being able to control the action with a raise or bet.

 

[skaterick]

i probably would have argued with the management too .

 

[tw082]

I would say yes it's a call, unless it's not their turn to play and it's know that their just saying that they are going to call if you bet or shove. If it's not their turn they can't call. I have had people tell me if I bet they're gonna shove and then fold to my bet. I usually knew they were full of it b/c who tells you the truth about that kind of thing. Also you are not allowed to call fold bet or anything out of turn. That's bluffing. It's kind of sleezy, but if they tried to place a bet the dealer would not let them bet out of turn. The same rule has to apply to calling.

However, poker rooms could and should have rules against this type of sleezy play. Maybe just a warning but if they kept doing it maybe banned from that poker room.