Is stalling time illegal and against policy?

[ckingriches]

Come on, there's no good reason to stall intentionally. Is your purpose in poker to win at any cost? And to irritate as many people along the way as possible? It's not the worst thing in the online poker world, but give your opponents a break. No one wants to spend more than an hour playing a turbo SNG. Show some integrity and play your hand when it's your turn to act. GROW UP!

 

[Sumun]

i dont really like that as a tactic, because you wouldnt like other people do that if you just want to play

i think you did that because they were yelling to you, but try to dont do this anymore

anyway it is absolutely legal because the time they give you is to use, thats why the time bank is limited
what about if you had lag, or you were just busy, well they cant do anything to you

lot of people usually do that in mtts to reach the money, or a better prize when they are almost out

 

[tpb221]

It's your time, so do as you wish with it

No. It's not his time. It's every player at the tables time and it's illegal.



P.S. Pooffy, by your avatar i see you lost weight.

 

[Ranny]

You did it to piss off the few that were abusing you.

What about the other players who had their game ruined?

 

[WurlyQ]

Stalling right before a blind increase is standard for Double or Nothing regs as the situation arises quite frequently. Probably somewhat unethical but I would lose too much of an edge for a situation that comes up so frequently in my normal game. I read the threads and did some research on it and there is nothing that says that it is against TofC for pokerstars.

That being said, doing it solely for the purpose of trying to tilt people is beyond ridiculous imo. Also, stalling is way overdone in MTTs where so many people with mediocre stacks should be trying to chipping up rather than bubble into the money.

 

[salim271]

It's perfectly legal, but very rude. At a casino, you might be asked to stand up.

How long do you usually have in casinos for decisions? Tom Dwan seems to take a long time for any decision, and the players in HSP give it to him but seem to prod him to move faster.

 

[robert_wrath]

Fortunate for you, SANDBAGGING isn't against the rule. This is specifically why there is 2 time banks to motion against. Indeed the tactic can & prove to be advantageous, however the result of the dastardly act proves somewhat disturbing among your peers.

 

[Four Dogs]

You sir are a

 

[PoKeRFoRNiA]

Alright. Thank you for responses. It's good to know that I wasn't doing anything illegal or having my account at risk of getting suspended or banned.

But yes, I was being a complete jerk and douchebag on this sng. What I can do to atone for this is never do this again, which I had already planned not to. This was just one-time thing to get back at them and tilt their heads off since I was offended and angry at the chatbox, calling me all sorts of stuff and trippin over two stalled turns where I was busy helping my friend. I know it's not an excuse but it was my way of insulting them back or get them angry as well.

Some cardschat members on this thread brought up a good question since I see many of this in satellite. People stall time to adjust to the environment and hope other players bubble so that they can cash. Is that consider a dick move as well? Because I saw so many of those in satellites that when I'm big stack.

 

[Poof]

P.S. Pooffy, by your avatar i see you lost weight.

I am so flattered you noticed!

 

[TIGERSTUMP]

congrats on winnind your ticket,,,,the table u were at sounded like it had a few idoits on it,,u got stubborn and used your limit to annoy them,,,i supose for a 1 time thing that makes it ok ,but if u have to do that to often to try winnin poker online games then its a silly move,a simple appolllgy to the table wudd have cooled the siutuition in the beginnig,,but u got suked into the sillyness so ,,learn from it...its not really polite to take your full time limit every hand,,,and in the end u got luki bye bettin all in with stuid cards....mi thoughts on the matter,,silly a round

 

[rssurfer54]

sorry guys, but I really think its no players fault if they want to take the time. As i stated above, the sites should make it faster to begin with, so that stalling loses its effectiveness. If you decide that it will help you to do so (the merits are debatable), you are well within the rules to use your whole time. If they dont want people to do this, the timer should be less.

 

[FEARFACTOR]

There are certain situations that I will consider stalling, such as right before a blind increase that will put someone allin at bubble time. I don't see why people stall at bubble time when it's hand-for-hand, but they still do it. Stalling just to be a dick is very unsportsmanlike, and wastes everyone's time, not just the chat abusers. Try and show some class.

 

[PoKeRFoRNiA]

Major LOL at people getting that tilted in a satellite to the Daily Dollar though. We're talking about pocket change here people...

LOL. Not even a pocket change. It's 50 ftps. It's just points. If they wanna be technical, it's 25 cents because 1 ftp = 0.5 cents. Let's not forget how easy it is to even obtain ftps when you play cash games or tournaments during happy hour. It's not even real money.

For a past month, I've been grinding points and entering many tournaments such as BLT, Daily Dollar, 750k satellite, using points. easy grind. Before grinding points, I had about 4-5k. Now I have 10.5k ftps points, not to mention how i entered daily dollar 3-4 times a week for a past month, and past 2 BLT, 2500ftps buy-in 750k satellite without spending a single penny. If it's real-money involved, then I wouldn't be this wreckless and stupid because wasting real money is not profitable. But in here, I figured that 50 ftps was worth it to tease them, although it was seriously a dick move that I never plan on doing it again. Luckily, I won.

 

[polingpower]

been on a table or two where someone use their time every hand and it does suck :boxing:

 

[JEP712]

How long do you usually have in casinos for decisions? Tom Dwan seems to take a long time for any decision, and the players in HSP give it to him but seem to prod him to move faster.

I'm pretty sure no stalls to piss people off at a real life table. Simply, they just don't have the balls to do this in person.

Anyway, the only time there is a "time bank" at a casino, is when a player faces a hard decision. After an reasonable amount has passed, (probably a minute), any player at the table can call time. The dealer can give the player an addition set amount of time stated by the rules of a casino.

Every casino is different I would assume, but this is the general rule I believe. Feel free to correct me for any mistakes I stated. I haven't played in a casino yet.

 

[WikiPoker]

You should always stall as much as you can if it puts the others off their game. If you stall long enough and it means unfortunately for someone else the blinds go up, then thats even better. Screw courtesy, screw politeness, if it gets you an advantage then do whatever you can to throw them off their game. You are there to take their money not get claps for etiquette.

Of course it works better if you have chip advantage, and it sucks majorly if someone else is doing it and it affects you

 

[ph_il]

Of course it works better if you have chip advantage, and it sucks majorly if someone else is doing it and it affects you

So, why would you do if you wouldn't like someone else doing it to you?

 

[CasperJames]

Way to make yourself look like a douche bag, IMO.

You stalled time already because you weren't paying attention and the table/some players got mad at you, but then you deliberately stalled just to a be a dick. Why add fuel to the fire? I guess you feel you were justified to do so because they didn't say nice words in the chat, huh? Either report them or man up and say 'Hey, my bad-I was away from the computer' and play on. It was your fault from the start.

^This

Running out your timebank every hand just to be a jerk is ridiculous.

 

[rugby0]

Using your time well is always smart. The slow play tatic is usually of more benefit in a live game . You must be prepared for the pressure. If you are and can watch your opponent there is lots of helpful information available.

 

[wetyeti]

When Im at a table, live or online, and someones tilting, Im gonna try to keep them on tilt.

 

[Stick66]

(Wow. Dunno how I missed this thread this long.)

- Stalling is not against the rules UNLESS you do it for more that a few times. Then, if reported, sites may step in since the game would be less enjoyable to their other customers.

- Intentional stalling IS extremely poor etiquette.

- The majority of the time that I run into a "staller", they usually turn out to be just a poor multi-tabler.

- When people go "ZZZZZZ" or "hurry up", I just say "You picked the wrong hobby to be in a hurry". After the extra time bank is used up, most sites only give 15 seconds anyway. I usually don't mind that when I have other tables going.

- I can vouch that the OP is NOT a "douchebag", even though this instance may seem like he is. I've gotten to know him on IM and he actually learns from threads like this. So go easy on him.

 

[worditst]

Would it be okay if you just finished up your blinds and you only have 1.5x the big blind (one more orbit) and it's one player to the bubble ends to stall time? Would that be unfair? If someone get's coolered out the tournament and you get ITM because of your time stalling can you be punished for that?

 

[moemtg]

Stalling...

I have only read the original post... and I got a laugh out of it... by the language used I assume you were on Full Tilt (Has way more a holes on there than Stars). Stalling is not illegal. I infact employ this element if I am basically almost ITM but the next blind will take me out... I sometimes get tables to cooperate so all finish ITM. I WOULD REPORT the "I will kill you" and the use of profanity to Tilt... they will have their chat ban for one calendar month.

As for you you are in the clear and congrats

Well played in my book,
Moe.

 

[Stu_Ungar]

I have only read the original post... and I got a laugh out of it... by the language used I assume you were on Full Tilt (Has way more a holes on there than Stars). Stalling is not illegal. I infact employ this element if I am basically almost ITM but the next blind will take me out... I sometimes get tables to cooperate so all finish ITM. I WOULD REPORT the "I will kill you" and the use of profanity to Tilt... they will have their chat ban for one calendar month.

As for you you are in the clear and congrats

Well played in my book,
Moe.

Read some of the other posts where stalling is shown to be a breach of the T+C of some sites.