Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[or3o1990]

I can see everyone talking in the group chat but I don't think anyone can see my text.. No one has acknowledged me if they can see it lol.

 

[or3o1990]

A couple of interesting spots here. The btn was kind of tight but he had folded to a 3bet before so I went ahead with it.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 115.65 BB
SB: 125.6 BB
Hero (BB): 155.65 BB
UTG: 92 BB
UTG+1: 45.35 BB
MP: 94.55 BB
MP+1: 129.25 BB
MP+2: 95.5 BB
CO: 128.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:spade: Q:heart:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, MP calls 1 BB, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 6 BB, fold, Hero raises to 17 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 11 BB

Flop: (37.5 BB, 2 players) 9:spade: 8:spade: 5:club:
Hero bets 20 BB, BTN calls 20 BB

Turn: (77.5 BB, 2 players) J:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets 48 BB, Hero calls 48 BB

River: (173.5 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:
Hero bets 38.02 BB, fold

Hero wins 170.5 BB


Here I was just attacking this guy because of the weak bet. Almost always they go away immediately but the second bet gets it done here.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 104.75 BB
BTN: 58.25 BB
SB: 52.05 BB
BB: 107.05 BB
UTG: 100 BB
UTG+1: 70.45 BB
MP: 98.85 BB
Hero (MP+1): 112.92 BB
MP+2: 55.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: Q:heart:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 5:diamond: T:club: 2:diamond:
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (28 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:
Hero bets 15 BB, fold

Hero wins 26.6 BB

 

[Figaroo2]

Good sweat session last night. I thought Orzo played solid and hopefully he booked a decent win. Quiet session but the AQ hand above was interesting. We looked at his turn stats and he didn't fold much to a 2nd barrel so we decided to check call the turn instead, mainly so we don't and get shoved on on the turn.thankfully the spade dropped in on the river. We wanted to know if betting the turn was better in this spot with our nut flush draw and gutshot.

 

[John A]

A couple of interesting spots here. The btn was kind of tight but he had folded to a 3bet before so I went ahead with it.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 115.65 BB
SB: 125.6 BB
Hero (BB): 155.65 BB
UTG: 92 BB
UTG+1: 45.35 BB
MP: 94.55 BB
MP+1: 129.25 BB
MP+2: 95.5 BB
CO: 128.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ Q♥

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, MP calls 1 BB, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 6 BB, fold, Hero raises to 17 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 11 BB

Flop: (37.5 BB, 2 players) 9♠ 8♠ 5♣
Hero bets 20 BB, BTN calls 20 BB

Turn: (77.5 BB, 2 players) J♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 48 BB, Hero calls 48 BB

River: (173.5 BB, 2 players) 4♠
Hero bets 38.02 BB, fold

Hero wins 170.5 BB

Pre-flop, with effective stack sizes where they are I like a bigger 3-bet. To at least 20 bbs here. C-bet is probably pretty neutral EV here. The turn is really close. I mean an A can't be a clean out here so it's probably a fold only having 10 outs + 1 for an Ace, and only 38 let behind.

 

[John A]

Good sweat session last night. I thought Orzo played solid and hopefully he booked a decent win. Quiet session but the AQ hand above was interesting. We looked at his turn stats and he didn't fold much to a 2nd barrel so we decided to check call the turn instead, mainly so we don't and get shoved on on the turn.thankfully the spade dropped in on the river. We wanted to know if betting the turn was better in this spot with our nut flush draw and gutshot.

No, I'd be check/ folding the turn. If he's tight, and he's in a 3-bet pot and he's called the flop, he's not folding the turn often enough to make it worth it. He doesn't need to fold very much if we do the math, but I think he's almost never folding. He doesn't have the odds to call the turn because we can't count on always getting paid, especially if the spade drops as it did and he folds. Maybe 75% of the time you get paid when you do hit on the river, so it still makes it fold only getting 2.6:1 on the turn, and maybe with 10.5-11 outs.

 

[or3o1990]

No, I'd be check/ folding the turn. If he's tight, and he's in a 3-bet pot and he's called the flop, he's not folding the turn often enough to make it worth it. He doesn't need to fold very much if we do the math, but I think he's almost never folding. He doesn't have the odds to call the turn because we can't count on always getting paid, especially if the spade drops as it did and he folds. Maybe 75% of the time you get paid when you do hit on the river, so it still makes it fold only getting 2.6:1 on the turn, and maybe with 10.5-11 outs.

I'm confused. Isn't it still a profitably call? With 10 outs I only need to be 1.6:1 to break even I thought? So I felt like it was close but I thought folding would be a mistake for sure..

 

[hutzpaf]

Good sweat session last night. I thought Orzo played solid and hopefully he booked a decent win.

Yup, I started watch about 00.05 and I stopped 02.30. John and Bruce gave good tips to David so I hope I remember something about them.

 

[John A]

I'm confused. Isn't it still a profitably call? With 10 outs I only need to be 1.6:1 to break even I thought? So I felt like it was close but I thought folding would be a mistake for sure..

No, you need more like 3.2:1 to call. 1.6:1 if you were all-in on the flop.

 

[rhombus]

Yup, I started watch about 00.05 and I stopped 02.30. John and Bruce gave good tips to David so I hope I remember something about them.

where abouts did u watch, are they still doing it on skype

 

[hutzpaf]

where abouts did u watch, are they still doing it on skype

First we were on Skype,and then Figaroo opened hangouts program where we looked at the or3o poker games.

 

[Figaroo2]

where abouts did u watch, are they still doing it on skype

It was all on skype the other night, the call held up well and it seems fine for small groups but in my previous experience Skype can be unstable at times.
Until recently I was signed up to coach who used google hangouts to give a once a month webinar. It seemed a very stable platform but I have no knowledge of how to set it up. I was just emailed a link which took me to the webinar.
We need to look into setting up a hangouts room, as John is doing us all a favour by giving us his time it would be better for this group to get it up and running.

 

[Figaroo2]

One thing you will need for this is a google account

Then we will need to make contact with each other presumably in a similar manner to Skype.
So if anyone wants to pm or skype me their details to start that would would good.

 

[John A]

I'll set the room up before next session.

I'll set it so we can drop in any time and discuss hands, sweat each other, and talk poker strategy. I'll cap the group at some point after get it going, because otherwise it can become too much.

I've done large online workshops teaching 150+ people at the same time, and too many questions get flying around.

 

[Figaroo2]

tilted in 10 mins. I just cant believe how Im running a the moment. over a month now

first 10 minutes into tonights session. Playing tired...

poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $27.30 (109.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $19.50 (78 bb)
MP1: $45.10 (180.4 bb)
MP2: $26.86 (107.4 bb)
MP3: $26.05 (104.2 bb)
CO: $25.45 (101.8 bb)
BTN: $25.70 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K:club: K:diamond:
UTG+2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.87, CO calls $0.87, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, CO calls $2.63

Flop: ($8.22) J:heart: T:diamond: 6:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $3.92, CO raises to $8.25, Hero calls $4.33

Turn: ($24.72) 5:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($24.72) A:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $13.70 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $24.72 pot ($1.11 rake)
Final Board: J:heart: T:diamond: 6:heart: 5:heart: A:club:
Hero mucked K:club: K:diamond: and lost (-$11.75 net)
CO mucked and won $23.61 ($11.86 net)

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $28.20 (112.8 bb)
BB: $15.08 (60.3 bb)
Hero (MP1): $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $26.73 (106.9 bb)
MP3: $23.75 (95 bb)
CO: $63.42 (253.7 bb)
BTN: $24.30 (97.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K:club: A:spade:
Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($1.75) 4:club: 7:spade: K:heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $2.70, Hero calls $1.45

Turn: ($7.15) 5:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $4.30, Hero calls $4.30

River: ($15.75) K:spade: (2 players) I suspect a set and I know I should probably fold, But you get to a point where you say surely not another set, why cant he just have KQ for a change.
SB bets $20.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.25 and is all-in

Results: $50.25 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 4:club: 7:spade: K:heart: 5:diamond: K:spade:
SB showed 4:heart: 4:diamond: and won $48.25 ($23.25 net)
Hero mucked K:club: A:spade: and lost (-$25 net)

 

[Figaroo2]

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $34.03 (136.1 bb)
BB: $6.68 (26.7 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $26.40 (105.6 bb)
MP3: $34.42 (137.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $28.50 (114 bb)
BTN: $25.50 (102 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T:heart: T:spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN folds, SB raises to $2.25, BB folds, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 4:spade: 6:spade: 3:spade: (2 players)
SB bets $2.27, Hero calls $2.27

Turn: ($9.29) 9:club: (2 players)
SB bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75

River: ($20.79) J:spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Results: $20.79 pot ($0.94 rake)
Final Board: 4:spade: 6:spade: 3:spade: 9:club: J:spade:
SB showed Q:spade: Q:diamond: and won $19.85 ($9.58 net)
Hero showed T:heart: T:spade: and lost (-$10.27 net)

Is this ok against his range?

 

[Figaroo2]

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $19.09 (76.4 bb)
BB: $15 (60 bb)
UTG+1: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $34.35 (137.4 bb)
MP1: $47.92 (191.7 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $34.75 (139 bb)
BTN: $31.18 (124.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6:club: 6:spade:
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.75, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.85) T:diamond: A:heart: 6:diamond: (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50, 3 folds

Turn: ($8.85) 5:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.22, BTN calls $4.22

River: ($17.29) K:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.80, Hero calls $7.80

Results: $32.89 pot ($1.48 rake)
Final Board: T:diamond: A:heart: 6:diamond: 5:club: K:diamond:
Hero mucked 6:club: 6:spade: and lost (-$15.27 net)
BTN showed A:diamond: 9:diamond: and won $31.41 ($16.14 net)

SIGH I simple cant cope with this...do we just stop? this is all in 40 mins

 

[John A]

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $19.09 (76.4 bb)
BB: $15 (60 bb)
UTG+1: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $34.35 (137.4 bb)
MP1: $47.92 (191.7 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $34.75 (139 bb)
BTN: $31.18 (124.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6♣ 6♠
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.75, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.85) T♦ A♥ 6♦ (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50, 3 folds

Turn: ($8.85) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $4.22, BTN calls $4.22

River: ($17.29) K♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.80, Hero calls $7.80

Results: $32.89 pot ($1.48 rake)
Final Board: T♦ A♥ 6♦ 5♣ K♦
Hero mucked 6♣ 6♠ and lost (-$15.27 net)
BTN showed A♦ 9♦ and won $31.41 ($16.14 net)

SIGH I simple cant cope with this...do we just stop? this is all in 40 mins

Yes, stop.

You're missing a ton of value in these hands, and obviously starting to tilt. Maybe play some MTT's or switch it up.

In this hand, you should be betting $3 on the flop, at least $6+ on the turn, and I'd bet fold the river, because he doesn't have KT/AT or AK at this point, so if he shoves, he has a flush.

This is a common theme still in most of your hands, so I'd make efforts to really think about it after you take a break. You need to get this part correct if you want to move up.

 

[Figaroo2]

Yeah I stopped after the last hand. I used to be able to beat 25nl but not anymore it seems. When you're running bad you are just constantly fearing the worst and as a result I end up scaling my bet sizing down rather than up and not betting the river either. also got 3bet off a ton of other spots I didn't bother to mention.

 

[hutzpaf]

Here I started loosen up my range and big pairs didn't hold against villain pre 3 or 4-bet shove.

 

[John A]

Yeah I stopped after the last hand. I used to be able to beat 25nl but not anymore it seems. When you're running bad you are just constantly fearing the worst and as a result I end up scaling my bet sizing down rather than up and not betting the river either. also got 3bet off a ton of other spots I didn't bother to mention.

Just take a little bit of a break then. Maybe play some MTT's or S&G instead just to switch it up for a bit.

You can beat these limits. You just need to accept that you will make bets against someone's range that you will lose, and that's ok. You have to keep making those bets and sizes though. That's the important key.

 

[John A]

Here I started loosen up my range and big pairs didn't hold against villain pre 3 or 4-bet shove.

What specifically were you doing, and can you post some examples?

 

[rhombus]

Bet Sizing
What sizes are currently used, Flop turn River and how is it affected by different variables

If you bet 50% Flop, 60% Turn, 60% River does it change based on texture, position, player and stack sizes.

Also would you change based on your hand or does that give the strength of your hand away unless you balance it like maybe bet 40% River sometimes as a blocker and sometimes to induce a bluff

I guess with 3 bets and 4bets there is more maths involved

Overall are there too many variables to give a definitive answer

 

[Figaroo2]

Rhom you just about answered your own questions.
You seem to be thinking very rigidly though, your bet sizing can vary enormously depending on the player type and board texture.
If I've got TPTK and a wet flop I'm betting much bigger for protection/value. If they want to draw they can pay through the nose to do so.
River bets can be massive overshoves for value against calling stations.

Not my greatest hand but as soon as I slowed and checked to see this guy was like 80% wtsd the money goes in...look what he calls with!

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $29.75 (119 bb)
BB: $29.13 (116.5 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $25 (100 bb)
MP1: $58.32 (233.3 bb)
MP2: $9.75 (39 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $25.50 (102 bb)
BTN: $11.28 (45.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5♣ 5♦
Hero calls $0.25, 4 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.85) 3♣ K♣ 5♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($3.35) K♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

River: ($6.85) T♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, BTN calls $8.03 and is all-in

Results: $22.91 pot ($1.03 rake)
Final Board: 3♣ K♣ 5♠ K♥ T♦
Hero showed 5♣ 5♦ and won $21.88 ($10.60 net)
BTN mucked 6♥ A♥ and lost (-$11.28 net)

 

[hutzpaf]

What specifically were you doing, and can you post some examples?

Start calling loose in SB/BB and it is not a good idea..and they seldon bluff River bet

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.6 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 95.8 BB
Hero (BB): 133.8 BB
UTG: 196.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 6)
MP: 213 BB
CO: 112 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7:heart: T:heart:

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.4 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond: 7:diamond: 8:club:
Hero checks, UTG bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (8.4 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
Hero checks, UTG bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

River: (18.4 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
Hero checks, UTG bets 8.8 BB, Hero calls 8.8 BB

UTG shows J:diamond: 9:diamond: (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 63%, Flop 58%, Turn 39%)
Hero mucks 7:heart: T:heart: (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 37%, Flop 42%, Turn 61%)
UTG wins 34.6 BB



(and they seldon bluff River bet) but I try sometimes

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 119.4 BB (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 20.93, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 45)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
SB: 126.6 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 148 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 21)
Hero (UTG): 108 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A<font color='black'>♠</font> Q<font color='red'>♦</font>

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 8 BB, fold, SB calls 8 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 3 players) 5<font color='black'>♠</font> 6<font color='black'>♠</font> 9<font color='black'>♠</font>
SB checks, BB bets 13.8 BB, Hero calls 13.8 BB, fold

Turn: (63.6 BB, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB bets 24.4 BB, Hero calls 24.4 BB

River: (112.4 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 58.8 BB and is all-in, BB calls 58.8 BB

Hero shows A<font color='black'>♠</font> Q<font color='red'>♦</font> (Two Pair, Nines and Sixes)
(Pre 43%, Flop 49%, Turn 30%)
BB shows J<font color='black'>♣</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font> (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Pre 57%, Flop 51%, Turn 70%)
BB wins 220.4 BB

standard - even 3-bet bigger villain call anyway (loose value in long run)

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 190.6 BB
BB: 97.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
CO: 33.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BTN: 144.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6:diamond: 6:club:

fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BTN calls 5 BB

Flop: (17 BB, 2 players) J:club: 7:club: 6:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 13 BB, Hero raises to 31 BB, BTN raises to 109.2 BB, Hero calls 78.2 BB

Turn: (235.4 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
Hero bets 73.4 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 27.2 BB and is all-in

River: (289.8 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:

Hero shows 6:diamond: 6:club: (Full House, Sixes full of Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 2%)
BTN shows 7:diamond: 7:spade: (Full House, Sevens full of Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 98%)
BTN wins 277.8 BB

Start playing SSS

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
CO: 136.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (BTN): 40 BB
SB: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: 49.4 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 23.91, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 49)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: K:spade:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 5 BB, BB calls 4 BB, Hero raises to 40 BB and is all-in, SB raises to 75 BB, fold

Flop: (85 BB, 2 players) J:heart: 8:spade: 5:heart:

Turn: (85 BB, 2 players) Q:club:

River: (85 BB, 2 players) T:spade:

SB shows J:diamond: J:spade: (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 18%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K:heart: K:spade: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 81.4 BB

Notes was - Villain tight and I should FOLD but why I still call that

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
BTN: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): 40 BB
BB: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: 49.4 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 28.89, PFR: 24.44, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 48)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:spade: Q:heart:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, BTN raises to 40 BB, Hero calls 33 BB and is all-in

Flop: (81 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond: 5:heart: J:spade:

Turn: (81 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:

River: (81 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:

Hero shows A:spade: Q:heart: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 28%, Flop 15%, Turn 16%)
BTN shows K:heart: K:diamond: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 72%, Flop 85%, Turn 84%)
BTN wins 77.6 BB

 

[Figaroo2]

John was recently talking he about min raising the turn for a cheaper showdown and in first hand T7 I think it looks the correct thing to do. As played we call 5bb on the turn and then another 8.8 on the river. If we minraise the turn 10bb he calls and in all likelihood checks the river saving us 2.8bb on the hand.
In this hand he had a FD and wasn't folding the turn but there will be other occasions where he gives up with 2nd/3rd pair and air which can all still go on to outdraw us on the river so it has to be a better line.