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CO: 100 BB
BTN: 266.5 BB
SB: 49 BB
BB: 267.5 BB
UTG: 129 BB
Hero (MP): 100.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ah Qs
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8h Jh Qh
BB checks, Hero bets 2.5 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Turn : (26.5 BB, 2 players) Kh
BB bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River : (66.5 BB, 2 players) 7h
BB bets 15 BB,

I feel this is a really interesting hand. Not ure if I should just call river cause the only value hand he's betting on river is T9h


If he had the nuts he should be shoving to get calls from Ah. Id read this bet size as Th looking for a cheap showdown and Id min raise on the end. If he has Th9h so be it.
 
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SB: 193.5 BB
BB: 99 BB
UTG: 9.5 BB
MP: 126 BB
CO: 129 BB
Hero (BTN): 193 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Ad
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 23.5 BB, SB calls 13.5 BB

Flop : (48 BB, 2 players) 3h 7c 2h
SB checks, Hero bets 27 BB, SB calls 27 BB

Turn : (102 BB, 2 players) 5s
SB checks, Hero bets 46 BB, fold

V's a loose aggro station. Not sure of the sizings flop & turn this deep. His range can definitely have some SCs & mid pairs.
Is overbet jamming turn is bad? maybe another 30BBish bet?
He's running 33/24/10, 3b from SB 15%


Nh... you're only second guessing because he folded.
 
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BTN: 112.5 BB
SB: 128.5 BB
BB: 149 BB
Hero (UTG): 202 BB
MP: 177.5 BB
CO: 59 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Ks
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop : (25.5 BB, 2 players) Kd Js Kc
Hero checks, BTN bets 12.5 BB, Hero calls 12.5 BB

Turn : (50.5 BB, 2 players) 5d
Hero checks, BTN bets 25 BB, Hero raises to 177.5 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 97.5 BB
bad turn play? player is totally new I wanted to play a bit cautious
Feeling calling turn & xc river is probably better
 
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Hero (BTN): 120.25 BB
SB: 123 BB
BB: 234.75 BB
UTG: 226 BB
MP: 132.5 BB
CO: 127.25 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Js
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3h 9c 3c
BB checks, Hero bets 2.25 BB, BB raises to 7.75 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Turn : (21 BB, 2 players) Qc
BB bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River : (51 BB, 2 players) 6h
BB checks, Hero bets 29.5 BB, BB raises to 117.5 BB, fold

BB wins 107 BB

line check? player's an unknown reg
 
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BTN: 112.5 BB
SB: 128.5 BB
BB: 149 BB
Hero (UTG): 202 BB
MP: 177.5 BB
CO: 59 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Ks
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop : (25.5 BB, 2 players) Kd Js Kc
Hero checks, BTN bets 12.5 BB, Hero calls 12.5 BB

Turn : (50.5 BB, 2 players) 5d
Hero checks, BTN bets 25 BB, Hero raises to 177.5 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 97.5 BB
bad turn play? player is totally new I wanted to play a bit cautious
Feeling calling turn & xc river is probably better


Yeah, it's not good play. It looks like you have Kx a huge % of the time. I'd lean towards either CRing the flop or after c/c flop, lead turn. As played, you def need to just c/c turn and bet river.
 
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Hero (BTN): 120.25 BB
SB: 123 BB
BB: 234.75 BB
UTG: 226 BB
MP: 132.5 BB
CO: 127.25 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Js
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3h 9c 3c
BB checks, Hero bets 2.25 BB, BB raises to 7.75 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Turn : (21 BB, 2 players) Qc
BB bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River : (51 BB, 2 players) 6h
BB checks, Hero bets 29.5 BB, BB raises to 117.5 BB, fold

BB wins 107 BB

line check? player's an unknown reg


Against an unkown I prefer just being the aggressor generally and 3-betting the flop. If I know my opponent better, calling the flop and using position is just fine. But as a general rule, I don't like to take passive lines when an unknown starts to get aggressive, especially w/ A high. :)

And yes, as played, you need to bet the river bigger.
 
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poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $24.72 (98.9 bb)
BB: $32.33 (129.3 bb)VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 4.4, hands: 872
UTG+2: $28.62 (114.5 bb)
MP1: $78.31 (313.2 bb)
MP2: $35.47 (141.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $31.37 (125.5 bb)
CO: $50.17 (200.7 bb)
BTN: $40.56 (162.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9♣ 9♦
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 6♣ 5♠ 7♣ (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.67, BB raises to $2.25, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.58

Turn: ($6.85) 9♥ (2 players)
BB bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75

River: ($18.35) 3♦ (2 players)
BB bets $23.58 and is all-in HERO?

tempted to call v this AF
no notes other than decent tag
Raising that flop he could be quite wide, including flush draws, combos, a lot of 8's around.
To me his turn sizing screams he wants a fold.
Problem is with that scary board he can take me off a lot of hands with his pure draws.
 
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pokerstars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 281.25 BB
Hero (UTG): 202.25 BB
MP: 138 BB
CO: 156.5 BB
BTN: 114.5 BB
SB: 159.75 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ah Ts
Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) 3h 6h Jh
Hero bets 3.25 BB, MP raises to 8.75 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Turn : (25 BB, 2 players) 8d
Hero checks, MP bets 18.5 BB, Hero calls 18.5 BB

River : (62 BB, 2 players) Ac
Hero checks, MP bets 48.25 BB, fold

MP shows 4c 4d (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 0%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)


V's new. Vpip is around 44 so definitely a fish. I suppose this is fine? If I knew he's a huge bluffer I'd 100% call river
 
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SB: $24.72 (98.9 bb)
BB: $32.33 (129.3 bb)VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 4.4, Hands: 872
UTG+2: $28.62 (114.5 bb)
MP1: $78.31 (313.2 bb)
MP2: $35.47 (141.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $31.37 (125.5 bb)
CO: $50.17 (200.7 bb)
BTN: $40.56 (162.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9♣ 9♦
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 6♣ 5♠ 7♣ (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.67, BB raises to $2.25, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.58

Turn: ($6.85) 9♥ (2 players)
BB bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75

River: ($18.35) 3♦ (2 players)
BB bets $23.58 and is all-in HERO?

tempted to call v this AF
no notes other than decent tag
Raising that flop he could be quite wide, including flush draws, combos, a lot of 8's around.
To me his turn sizing screams he wants a fold.
Problem is with that scary board he can take me off a lot of hands with his pure draws.


I'm folding the flop and not thinking much more about it. You have two things going for you, position and blockers to the straight. But with that aggression and how tight he is, he's going to have you beat or even equity on the flop a ton. You're only good card is an 8, and a lot of the deck is not good for you.

After that, it's pretty close. The turn you should call w/ your stack size. And then the overshove on the river, really limits him to saying he decided to CR multiple people with 78/68 type hands. So I might lean towards a call on the river. He's aggressive enough that he might have CR with that range, although it would be really dumb. So at that point I'm just calling it off. The turn sizing is also to setup his river shove.
 
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PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 281.25 BB
Hero (UTG): 202.25 BB
MP: 138 BB
CO: 156.5 BB
BTN: 114.5 BB
SB: 159.75 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ah Ts
Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) 3h 6h Jh
Hero bets 3.25 BB, MP raises to 8.75 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Turn : (25 BB, 2 players) 8d
Hero checks, MP bets 18.5 BB, Hero calls 18.5 BB

River : (62 BB, 2 players) Ac
Hero checks, MP bets 48.25 BB, fold

MP shows 4c 4d (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 0%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)


V's new. Vpip is around 44 so definitely a fish. I suppose this is fine? If I knew he's a huge bluffer I'd 100% call river


I'd be 3-betting the flop a lot if I'm continuing OOP. 1) You have more range credibility that would want to re-raise, and 2) Most people don't raise flopped flushes, just sets. Way more combos of air, and one pair hands that can fold. I don't hate just calling of course.

Turn, why not lead again versus the fish? 4 flushes don't have good implied odds, and if you are planning on folding to your second best card hitting, then you shouldn't be calling the turn.
 
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BB: 286.5 BB
UTG: 429 BB
Hero (MP): 130 BB
CO: 150.5 BB
BTN: 503 BB
SB: 146.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Ac Qc
fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 17 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Flop : (35.5 BB, 2 players) 7h 8d Jh
BB checks, Hero bets 19.5 BB, BB calls 19.5 BB

Turn : (74.5 BB, 2 players) 4h
BB checks, Hero checks

River : (74.5 BB, 2 players) Js
BB checks, Hero bets 93.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 93.5 BB

Good bluff jam? In my mind this is a perfect bluffing spot
 
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BB: 286.5 BB
UTG: 429 BB
Hero (MP): 130 BB
CO: 150.5 BB
BTN: 503 BB
SB: 146.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Ac Qc
fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 17 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Flop : (35.5 BB, 2 players) 7h 8d Jh
BB checks, Hero bets 19.5 BB, BB calls 19.5 BB

Turn : (74.5 BB, 2 players) 4h
BB checks, Hero checks

River : (74.5 BB, 2 players) Js
BB checks, Hero bets 93.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 93.5 BB

Good bluff jam? In my mind this is a perfect bluffing spot


No stats on opponent?

And no, that's a horrible bluff. I have no idea what you're repping or what you expect your opponent to be calling with. Maybe if you explain I can try and add some clarification, but the short answer is that's not a good bluff. A for effort though. :)
 
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No stats on opponent?

And no, that's a horrible bluff. I have no idea what you're repping or what you expect your opponent to be calling with. Maybe if you explain I can try and add some clarification, but the short answer is that's not a good bluff. A for effort though. :)


V is a loose ish re. 3bs from blinds a lot vs steals. running something like 26/20

I'm repping boats, T9 for straight, Jx, maybe some trappy flushes.
Expecting him to fold TT,QQ+

I think my play seems very Jx ish. or T9. Sets at times that'd check back on turn flush card
He did call with AhAx
 
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V is a loose ish re. 3bs from blinds a lot vs steals. running something like 26/20

I'm repping boats, T9 for straight, Jx, maybe some trappy flushes.
Expecting him to fold TT,QQ+

I think my play seems very Jx ish. or T9. Sets at times that'd check back on turn flush card
He did call with AhAx

So you're repping boats and straights that didn't bet the turn, and then Jx that wants to over jam on a flush and straight board that expects what to call?

It doesn't add up. Are you ever betting any of those hands that way? I've never seen you.
 
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sweet, i'll have a listen while I grind. over the past 9 months i've been getting back into the swing of things. honestly, i feel that my game is sharper than ever and my life and living situation are as stable as they have ever been. i've played nearly 75k hands and have a winrate a little below 8bb/100 despite being like 20 bi below all in adjusted equity. a lot of this i attribute to you my man. so thanks. i'm gonna be trying to get more into the community in the following months so keep an eye out for a new cash thread from your boy!
 
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iPoker - $2 NL - Holdem - 7 players
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BB: 94 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
UTG: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 27.08, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
UTG+1: 258.55 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
MP: 68.35 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
MP+1: 106.65 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (CO): 106.53 BB
BTN: 78 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero raises to 29 BB, BTN calls 20 BB

Flop: (59 BB, 2 players) 8 T 4
Hero bets 77.53 BB, BTN calls 49 BB

Turn: (157 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (157 BB, 2 players) 3

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 71%, Flop 7%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows K T (Two Pair, Tens and Fours)
(Pre 29%, Flop 93%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 28.53 BB
BTN wins 155 BB


fun spot here. i figure he can have AQ,AJ, ATs suited broadways, big pairs. i don't figure a lot of t's but he flopped the whole world and scooped it.

i don't think theres anything i can do on the flop with the spr but i should have made it slightly larger pre. making it even less likely to make mistakes on the flop. thoughts?
 
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Great to hear things are going ok bud.
Its your 4bet sizing that gets you to commited here. Dont put in more than 25bb with a 4bet. It gets the job done if they were 3betting light.
You can still let that go postflop if you whiff.
It also means you arent really pot committed if you wanted to bet 1/3 pot on the flop to try and fold out any chops.
 
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thanks for the input brother. hope all is well on and off the felt for ya! i see your point but is it bad to be committed if we think they're going to call lightish. with the range assigned to him I have 53% equity on the flop and an spr of less than 1. My intuition tells me to take it the other way and make it larger because if he's going to call with worse then why not right?
 
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Might as well 4bet jam it in preflop if you are never folding v this guy if you 4bet big and whiff flop.
The jam with fold equity might fold out some 99-JJ which we are still behind.
The fact he called a 4bet with KT shows what a fish he is. I noticed he was tight, small sample but only just noted he had 78bb to start.
Considering his stack I think i prefer a call pre to keep in all the stuff we dominate and gii on favourable flops, Or a 4bet shove pre but we risk isoing ourself v a potentially strong range doing the latter when his vpip is only 13.
 
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