puzzlefish
Legend
Loyaler
You should stream some sessions and show how full of fish this format is on ZOOM. You do mean pokerstars, right? Would love to see you demonstrate your point in an unedited format.
You should stream some sessions and show how full of fish this format is on ZOOM. You do mean pokerstars, right? Would love to see you demonstrate your point in an unedited format.
seiya1989
Legend
Platinum Level
I agree with what you say. To say that there are a lot of fish on Zoom is totally false.
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
That'd be no problem!
I actually prefer to play on GGPoker Rush&Cash, also on partypoker FastForward.... and then later in the day it's SportsBetting & ACR (sometimes a bit on 888Poker). Late at night I might play the 100+ hands a couple/few nights a week on WPTGlobal. I build rolls on all sites, playing 25nl & 10nl (depends on the site & the time of day)
The style of play varies from site to site and from day or time of day quite a bit. LOADS of fish on those tables but lots of regs. too (some good... some not so good)
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
ZOOM format (ie. Rush & Cash, FastForward, SNAP, etc.)
Gee maybe I should move to regular tables...
seiya1989
Legend
Platinum Level
Very nice the terms you use you are a connoisseur, I just say that it is a lie that in zoom in ps it is full of fish is simple as that
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
The terms?
This is the ZOOM 'style' (Format) on other sites
ie.
GGPoker 'Rush & Cash'
Partypoker 'FastForward'
etc. etc etc
It's not 'terms I choose to use' It's the names the sites use.
Stars has a larger % of regs vs. most other sites but it certainly has fish on the tables as well. (especially when they're running any type of promo like they did just recently)
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
there's loads of fish/beginners/noobs who choose to play ZOOM format. (and the assumption that it's a nitfest... also very far from the truth).
If you change the wording... it changes the meaning.
seiya1989
Legend
Platinum Level
I repeat it's a lie, as the colleague said above, otherwise he brings the unedited evidence of the flood of fish you talk about, I play very often at zoom tables at low levels and I don't see them, I play in classic NL holdem and in Omaha, and even in Omaha there are just a few fish, in fact I already know most of the players who play daily at low levels
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
Then you're either
a) playing on the wrong sites
b) playing at the wrong time of day
c) you're not that good
seiya1989
Legend
Platinum Level
good friend. to end this nonsense. As the colleague said, bring the evidence. I only play on pokerstars. I don't care about the other rooms. I speak from what I know. The field of players is not very large at the zoom tables either, at least at the low levels in Omaha between 60 and 80 players and in holdem a little more. And I repeat the same thing, it is not flooded with fish, that is a lie. greetings
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
If you can take as much time attempting to comprehend what I wrote as you have with writing your responses, you might actually be able to figure out what I've stated. Until then, I don't see the point of responding to you again. (it's like talking to a wall)
seiya1989
Legend
Platinum Level
What I'm telling you is simple. Are you lying or is your ego pushing you to continue? In PS where I play it is not flooded with fish on zoom tables as you claim. Instead of saying so many nonsense and believing that you are at a higher level, bring the evidence. the rest is garbage
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
If I was going to play Zoom style cash games again, I would definitely not play them on Stars. I agree, that its probably the toughest site of them all, and when I played them years ago, the rake-back was also almost non-excisting. On ACR Poker only the 25NL and 200NL tables are still running. But while the 25NL table likely has a high % of regs, at least there is a leaderboard, which combined with the regular reward program might bring the effective rake down to something like 2%, although I have not done any exact math on this. And beating a 2% effective rake in a Zoom style game is obviously way easier than beating a 4,5% rake in at least equally tough games on Stars.
As you know, I have focused on tournaments for the past several years. And while I dont have any profit over the past 1.000+ games on ACR, this is actually only half the story, since I have made $50 from the leaderboard every week during this time plus something from the regular reward program as well. So while my total profit according to sharkscope is only $700, my actual profit is a bit over $1.300 including some small losses or wins in cash games but mostly thanks to the leaderboard and general reward program.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Or being good at making stuff up. If you look at his profile, he is pretty new to the forum, and his 5 posts are all about variations of the theme "tell me how to crush 100NL". He is also not sharing usernames to the sites, where he say, he played, so nobody can verify, how much he actually played or won.
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
Looks like you still didn't read.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
A good place to start is common sense. OP say, he played 500k hands in a month 8-tabling Zoom style games. Have you ever tried to multitable Zoom style games, and do you know, how high a workload even 3 or 4 tables is? We dont know OPs usernames, but just for fun I checked the leaderboards for july 2024 on Statsname.
For whatever reason 2NL is not tracked. But for PokerStars the highest profit achieved at 5NL was $319, and the highest volume played was 48k hands. For 888 Poker the highest profit achieved at 5NL was $189, and the highest volume played was 33k hands. One would reasonably expect, that the highest profit achieved at 2NL would be lower than the highest profit achieved at 5NL and the highest volume played at least somewhat similar.
So how likely is it, that anyone achieved a profit of $750 and a volume of 250k hands as an average for the two sites at 2NL? And if he actually did and got falsely accused of making stuff up, would he not come onto his own thread and reply to the accusations? Like "yes I actually did this, here are my graphs / usernames" or something of that nature. So unless he actually does that, as far as I am concerned, this is just a cool story
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
I'm guessing that reading isn't one of your best traits. Perhaps that's just a 'read' I've got on you... because it's clear you haven't read what I've written.
I'm going to try to come & find you wherever you play... 'for fun'.
