All my top pockets are getting overcarded. All the draws are drawing dead. People hitting straights out of nowhere.
Been like this for 3days straight! At both party & stars
And when we get a good flop, no one calls
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
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wow the session went to waste cause I couldn't fold Aces & Kings. Lost 275BB from just two hands. One after the other. I wanted to bust a guy that has taken a couple over me so stupidly called his overbet shove.
lost to two crappy hands. So tilted! My own stupidity.
Overall won around $10 including $3 from bolt promo but could've won $5 more.
Stars roll atm - $170.79
Here are those two hands. So tilted as well as so ashamed how I played
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
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wow the session went to waste cause I couldn't fold Aces & Kings. Lost 275BB from just two hands. One after the other. I wanted to bust a guy that has taken a couple over me so stupidly called his overbet shove.
lost to two crappy hands. So tilted! My own stupidity.
Overall won around $10 including $3 from bolt promo but could've won $5 more.
Stars roll atm - $170.79
Here are those two hands. So tilted as well as so ashamed how I played
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Don't be tilted/ashamed because of a poorly played hand. It will impede your chance to make progress. Now, if you let this get to you too much, you may play less over the next few days. You may lose confidence, and play poorly as a result of that.
What's important is the we learn from our mistakes.
So, let's talk about the hand a little....
First hand, KK:
I like the 3b pre, sizing seems a bit large, but at small stakes I think it's spot on.
Flop Jd-4d-6h.
I like your flop sizing here. Good. Charge FDs, and Jx, and even light peels with pairs and who knows.
turn is offsuit 3.
BB checks, we should bet here. It's gonna be a fairly standard bet/fold spot.
If BB improved, we will probably hear from him. However, we can't go giving FDs and Jx a free card. So we bet for value. If we get raised, without a stellar read (and I mean spot on read), we will fold to C/R from BB.
River comes, 4 to a straight on board. It is a 7.
This dude just hauls it for nearly 3x pot. You know what I'm going to say. Fold. There is like 99% we are losing here if we call.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. If it feels icky (this must have felt icky), fold. EZ game.
But you need to focus on learning from this. It's a fantastic opportunity to improve your game. These are the lessons most (if not all) of us have learned along the way.
Do you think any successful person just went straight up? Watch "The Pursuit of Happy-Ness".
These hands are just chances to learn. Focus on the good part of this.
2nd hand, AA:
Preflop fine.
Flop is debatable. I check sometimes, bet sometimes. If my opponent is aggro, or fit or fold, I prob check. I would already be thinking "We don't have the ace of diamonds". This changes the hand, and runouts with diamonds are super bad if we bet flop and get called, and flush gets there. At that point, we have merely a bluff catcher. Not to mention we are OOP.
So I think I would likely check flop, keep pot small. Open up opponent to betting with inferior hands. But if we bet flop, and get called, he most likely has either a FD or a king. So I don't really like bloating pot OTF. Blind vs Blind dynamic may change calling ranges in this scenario, but we are in a dicey spot here. I think it's important to realize the value of our hand here, in real time. I don't like AA here that much. Our gin card would prob be Ad.
We bet flop. BB calls.
Turn 3d. Code red runout right now. We bet flop, making it very tough for V to see this turn without having equity, because its a scary flop for BB with alot of hands, so he prob does fold alot to cbet with all sorts of hands.
If we check the flop, he is allowed to continue (and even make bad bets) with all sorts of stuff.
But this turn, the 3d, we need to check/decide. It's pretty much a give up here, as played. I hope I'm not biased here, but I have been in this pot plenty of times.
As played, you know, when we bet, and dude raises, yeah we beat nothing but bluffs. He isn't likely to be bluffing here very often at all.
Snap fold turn.
Hopefully, my thoughts can help in some way. And I've made some horrific errors over the years bro. You aren't alone. All of us have been through this.
Try and take your time, and think things through. Learn to recognize when you are thinking clearly.
If you haven't read it yet, read "The Mental Game of Poker". If you have read it, read it again.
I think sometimes people get too attached to pots, and just refuse to give up. You need to be able to keep emotions out of the picture, and make decisions that are clear and correct. It takes time to make good decisions regularly playing poker. I used to make really bad decisions under pressure myself. It's like my brain just didn't work well if pot was big or I was running like shit or whatever.....
This is referred to by Jared Tendler as "unconscious competence" in "The Mental Game of Poker". When you are tilted, or under pressure, or you are attached to pots (a form of tilt I think), your brain reverts to only the things you have learned unconsciously. An example would be driving a car, if you've been doing it for years. You don't need to think about it, just automatic. If you don't have a ton of experience at poker, your unconscious competence is gonna be pretty bad.
Another way of defining the above is "gut instinct". That feeling you get when you think someone is bluffing, and you don't know how you know it. Again, inexperienced players tend to have lousy instincts. Experienced players will have much better instincts, because they have been in so many spots that are similar, their brain has learned what to expect, what V will have, etc, automatically.
Keep at it man. It's going to be work to rise up the ranks at poker. It won't be easy. How determined are you? Do you really want to get super good at poker?
Learn valuable lessons from these hands, move forward, become a better player. EZ game. Be positive.
unsuccessful day.
I tried to qualify to bigger tourneys at stars but couldn't qualify at all. I think I spent around 10-15 dollars just for the sattys considering the T$ won as well.
The only great thing was coming 3rd in the CC 888 freeroll.
But the end was disappointing as well. I wanted to win at least become 2nd but luck wasn't on my side.
Won $12. Pay jump was $8 to the 2nd place.
Plus if I had become 2nd, I would've made to 1st in the leader board money list in the third quarter. So around $5 behind there
unsuccessful day.
I tried to qualify to bigger tourneys at stars but couldn't qualify at all. I think I spent around 10-15 dollars just for the sattys considering the T$ won as well.
The only great thing was coming 3rd in the CC 888 freeroll.
But the end was disappointing as well. I wanted to win at least become 2nd but luck wasn't on my side.
Won $12. Pay jump was $8 to the 2nd place.
Plus if I had become 2nd, I would've made to 1st in the leader board money list in the third quarter. So around $5 behind there
I feel it's better to skip tourneys on weekends. Specially trying so hard just to get qualified via a satty. I wasted so much money & time just to get qualified to a bigger buy in but never got lucky. Of course shootouts are based out luck as well cause it's mainly shove or fold again betting against the player patterns.
It gets frustrating after a while.
I can get qualified to a 4.40 tourney without an issue. But getting qualified to a higher one with that money became a huge trouble. Tried at least 20 times but was unsuccessful.
Will pause the tourneys at party. Will play only 4.40 & 3.30 at stars for now. Definitely gonna take a shot at WCOOP 6max PKO $11 tho.
Stars roll down to - $165.22
Party roll down to - $114.14
888 roll upto - $48.83
A slight change of plans. Will grind 2NL at party until I reach $150 & then move to 888.
The reason is I was up around 140 at party for a while & I'd like to surpass that quickly as possible. Sad to see it going down.
unsuccessful day.
I tried to qualify to bigger tourneys at stars but couldn't qualify at all. I think I spent around 10-15 dollars just for the sattys considering the T$ won as well.
The only great thing was coming 3rd in the CC 888 freeroll.
But the end was disappointing as well. I wanted to win at least become 2nd but luck wasn't on my side.
Won $12. Pay jump was $8 to the 2nd place.
Plus if I had become 2nd, I would've made to 1st in the leader board money list in the third quarter. So around $5 behind there
I feel it's better to skip tourneys on weekends. Specially trying so hard just to get qualified via a satty. I wasted so much money & time just to get qualified to a bigger buy in but never got lucky. Of course shootouts are based out luck as well cause it's mainly shove or fold again betting against the player patterns.
It gets frustrating after a while.
I can get qualified to a 4.40 tourney without an issue. But getting qualified to a higher one with that money became a huge trouble. Tried at least 20 times but was unsuccessful.
Will pause the tourneys at party. Will play only 4.40 & 3.30 at stars for now. Definitely gonna take a shot at WCOOP 6max PKO $11 tho.
Stars roll down to - $165.22
Party roll down to - $114.14
888 roll upto - $48.83
A slight change of plans. Will grind 2NL at party until I reach $150 & then move to 888.
The reason is I was up around 140 at party for a while & I'd like to surpass that quickly as possible. Sad to see it going down.
back to the cash tables.
I had a pretty unsuccessful 5nl session at stars yesterday night. overall a really bad day. Was suffering from a headache since morning. Had to go to the uni for a practical course which I really hate doing. The headache continued throughout the day. Came home and tried a 5nl session and lost big very quickly. I guess I'm not yet ready for 5NL yet. It's not that the players are way better than me. PLayers are better obviously but it's much more of I'm rushing into unwanted pots quickly and playing without using my head. I play much much worse than I'd do in 2NL.
Had a short sleep and got back to 2NL grinding to win back the losses. This is something I really like about myself. When I loose I immediately want to win back. And when I'm calm & patient it'll easily come my way. Won back what I lost & then some but played a stupid 200BB pot against a fish & lost some. Overall a profitable session. But these leaks are really hurting me. Need to polish my plays. No matter if you are focused 90%, that 10% in a big pot will let the session go to waste.
This is the most profitable hand of the session
against an ultra donkey. I had 2 pair + BDF. so I thought shoving turn would be the best play here.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
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And that one idiotic moment which leads the session go to waste.
Again a huge aggro fish. He'd shove 200BB with bottom pair, Shoved KJ pre and many more stupid hands. But got lucky in many. Almost up to 700BBs at that table. I couldn't put him on a J tbh. Only an ace. Polarized his range to Ahigh or perhaps a low pair.
These are the stupid leaks that have been destroying my sessions. When I look at those again, I feel really ashamed of myself. How stupid can I be?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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A couple of really disheartening days. I can't really seem to get anything going.
I fare well at 2NL at stars but the sessions are long comparing the profits, then I try to hit sattys for big tourneys & loose it all.
And in the end I've come to the conclusion that playing hyper turbo shootout sattys is just bingo.
So damn frustrating hen you keep loosing them. But knowing that I can get my roll back on track by playing cash, I try even harder to qualify. Last couple of days has been like that.
And then 5NL at stars is a complete reg fest. I generally believe 10NL at stars has more recs than 5NL. Putting a 20BB/100 1-2 hour session at 5NL seems like a pretty tough job to me. If I'm to do that I feel I should take more risks & bluff more. But when such a high risk bluff goes wrong, then a whole chunk of your winning & then some will be lost.
Stars roll down to - around $148
So now I'll stop playing sattys & tourneys at stars & even short 5NL sessions.
And will grind 5NL until I reach $180 there.
At the moment playing at party doesn't seem that good as well.
I might think about the timings & hit the tables around 3,4 AM from my time.
Party rool atm - $110
Will grind there till I reach $150. I want to reach $150
I also have a depoist bonus pending of $20 where I have to grind some points at casual cash tables to get it released. Party's point system is cool but at 2NL it's hard to cover the targets. So will be hitting 5NL & even 10NL at casual tables. The thing with those tables is that you cannot multi table any other cash tables & can only play one table.
In the mean time I said screw full ring 2NL at 888 and tried 5NL 6max.
This time I went fish hunting at tables. As soon as a fish is sighted I would sit in & would leave when the fish busts or leaves.
It was a very relaxing enjoyable short session TBH. went pretty well.
Overall made around 200BB - $10
888 roll upto - $58.75
For the last couple of days poker has not been that enjoyable to me. And besides I put a ton of effort & didn't put time to other things.
So might take it slower but will grind hard when I do.
So the new goals combined with the older ones.........
1. Get party roll upto - $150 playing 2NL & if I feel confident - 5NL.
2. Get Stars roll upto - $180 playing 2NL.
3. DON'T PLAY ANY TOURNEYS OR SATTYS EXCEPT FOR freerolls!!
4. Have a couple of 5NL sessions at 888 as I did today.
I hope to achieve this before the end of the month.
I think 888 & party are the sites where I will continue moving up in cash & will contribute stars to playing tourneys in the future.
And will try some asian sites as well. There seems to be a lot of fish or so I hear. But the stakes are high so need a good roll to start.
Bet365 is totally a different case. Will have to decide what to do there.
Some opinions even though it seems you are fast learner: the money you make has no meaning until you are on the levels you aim for. So you making x amount of money at 5NL has no meaning, you making x amount of money at dollar tourneys has no meaning they are just practice platforms on your way up.
Also only when it hurts you learn, people don’t learn by playing good, they learn by playing bad. Like I said from your graph: “It's quite easy to analyze, you are too good for our level, hard to find leaks, even large ones anymore.” The winning sessions are there to keep you mentally strong and to fund your learning experience. A bit like you do with tourneys. That said, your logic playing too high tourneys by providing money by playing cash is no better than losing player paying it by using his salary income. Too high is too high, use tourney money to fund tourney because cash skill does not directly equal to tourney skill. (well it kinda does, but you get what I mean)
Also when you are finally graduate from 10NL you realize what kind of fish fest 5NL is. Like you said, after 5NL 2NL feels almost too easy. The same happens when you visit from 10NL to 5NL.
Yeah I wouldn't play any tournaments at all (like you already said Alucard). They are just lottos man. Especially turbos.
Play cash. That will be your bread & butter for years to come man. That's where the money comes from. If you play any MTT, make sure you have at least 100 buy ins for the tourney you will play, and also make sure it's a big reward for 1st, not like a $1 freezout with 3 or 4 tables (not worth it).
And stop being so short term results oriented. Day to day numbers don't mean as much as you think they do. Just set out to make the best decisions possible, and play A game. If you aren't on A game, and spewing chips, you gotta have discipline.
But all that aside, you are doing very well. Keep up the good work. Keep learning.
Thanks guys.
I get what you mean by don't be short term result oriented & day to day progress doesn't matter that much overall.
But think about the mental aspect of it. Sometimes it gets really frustrating. Last couple of days I really began not to enjoy the game.
I play tourneys because I generally do good at them as well. But yeah it's similar to the lotto of course. What really got me frustrated was the fact that I couldn't qualify via a satty which I tried so many times.
I try them specially because if you get lucky enough to get to a FT or become 1st, that's be a instant huge booster for your bankroll.
Something similar happened to me with the WCOOP score. So going for a shot or two is worth it IMO.
But cash is what makes you a better poker player & has consistency if you are.
Anyway I think I've spent a chunk of time in poker studying & playing. Think a relaxation is needed.
And I've become really unhealthy within the past year or so & specially after picking up poker.
Need to start going to the gym regularly & eat well & put on some weight.
But lets say I'm addicted to poker & want to win everytime.
So will try to reduce the amount of time I put and try to play more effective sessions.
Thanks guys.
I get what you mean by don't be short term result oriented & day to day progress doesn't matter that much overall.
But think about the mental aspect of it. Sometimes it gets really frustrating. Last couple of days I really began not to enjoy the game.
I play tourneys because I generally do good at them as well. But yeah it's similar to the lotto of course. What really got me frustrated was the fact that I couldn't qualify via a satty which I tried so many times.
I try them specially because if you get lucky enough to get to a FT or become 1st, that's be a instant huge booster for your bankroll.
Something similar happened to me with the WCOOP score. So going for a shot or two is worth it IMO.
But cash is what makes you a better poker player & has consistency if you are.
Anyway I think I've spent a chunk of time in poker studying & playing. Think a relaxation is needed.
And I've become really unhealthy within the past year or so & specially after picking up poker.
Need to start going to the gym regularly & eat well & put on some weight.
But lets say I'm addicted to poker & want to win everytime.
So will try to reduce the amount of time I put and try to play more effective sessions.
Winning a decent MTT would be a huge BR boost. But, as a poker player, in my experience, most of our money will come from cash games. I would try and imprint that in your brain. We gotta go to the office, day in day out, and pick up our paycheck.
So lets just say we make $10 from cash games on a day.
If we are on A-game, and if there is a good one to choose from, mayyyyybe we play an MTT for $1. But honestly, in my own experience, they seem to be very risky. Like kiss that money good bye most of the time. That's why I don't play very many. Bankroll killers.
Things are going fine but I've been a bit lazy lately. Can't seem to get motivated sometimes. The main reason for this I think is me being unhealthy physically & somewhat mentally.
So starting tmrw I'll try to go 3 times a week to the gym. At least 2 times is a must. I'll try to update y physical improvements as well & I hope you don't mind reading them.
Something I've been missing even at gym is doing cardio. I hate cardio. I used to box @ college & used to row 1st year at uni & in both of those sports cardio is a must. But after I stopped rowing & stopped doing other sports, I've never ran a single mile as I can remember. I think this really effects me now. But still I don't like running so will try to get a bicycle as soon as possible & have a ride in the mornings.
I need to have that "braingasm" to keep me motivated both in poker & other things and I really believe this is what I should to get that. lol.
In poker related things I said I wouldn't play tournaments but couldn't help my self. I need that huge score. At least take a shot at it once in a while.
So today I qualified to the sunday storm via $1.45 satty. Stars roll has improved so no big deal. @ $170 atm.
yesterday tried some 5NL at 888 but had a slight loosing session as I remember & lost some bucks playing tourneys. Again the losses are due to me loosing focus and being lazy.
So getting back fit is the most important thing I should do now as I feel. I never had diet problems due to me being a hard gainer. Only weight gaining problems.
So will increase my meals to 4 or 5 times a day.
A lot of our food is based on rice & wheat & currys not much oil, meat like americans or europeans would. Will try to improve my meat & oil intake.
Will take a shot of couple of other tourneys as well if I feel like it. Will open up a railing thread for those if I run good.
One last thing. i've not posted hands lately for reviews. Perhaps due to focusing on tourneys or due to playing well & hardly any tough spots at 2NL. But still it's not what I should do. So will post a couple of hands next session onwards.
And will definitely try to complete the bankroll goals I've set for this month. Need to run $40 at party (this'll be tough) & $20 at stars. (spripe cancelled his package so the stake of $7 was returned)
Being physically healthy is definitely a huge plus for anything involving mental endurance. Even if you're at the top of you mental game you find a lot of focus is spent on willing yourself through physical limitations. Being of sound body reduces that strain on your mental faculty.
Glad to hear you are going to be exercising more. Diet is 90% of the equation i think though.
Being in top shape mentally and physically is pretty important for poker players. It might not seem like it, but sitting there thinking, and doing it well, takes some mental toughness. If we are centered emotionally, everything is just easier. Things don't bother us as much.
Obv I'd love to hear any/all updates in your endeavours.
Take shots at MTTs if you must. Just don't risk too much. I too have taken more than half a dozen shots at WSOPC events, with dismal results. I am chasing that big score as well.
However, it will be next year before I can take another shot, unless things improve big time very fast at live poker.
I don't see anything wrong with mixing up cash and MTT. If you have the time for mtt then fill your boots there is still plenty to be made.
Personally I'm pretty sure I've won about the same from both formats and definitely at a better win rate in mtt. Volume is key especially if you are playing turbos. A few sites are saying if you have any skill at poker you should avoid turbos and stick to slower structures I agree with this.
Trying to get fit is a good thing you don't want to end up having to do what Jamie Staples is putting himself through.