AK

[dbitel]

mrsnake,

infact, limit is usually played a lot looser than no limit, due to the higher need to steal and protect your blinds in limit, due to their higher reletive size compared to the pot size.

in a full ring table, anything over a VPIP of 20 and a PFR of like 14 is pretty much spew...and teh best players will have stats of like 15/10 or so.

in a 5 way NL game, good stats will generally be between 18/14 and 25/22. there are some players that can play a LAGgy game of 30/25 profitably, but those players are few and far between

 

[stormswa]

yea

I missed post #6 also my bad.

 

[Bombjack]

Presumably after calling I'm leading out for half pot whatever the turn is and folding to a push...?

 

[dbitel]

Presumably after calling I'm leading out for half pot whatever the turn is and folding to a push...?

no sir...you're C/R AI

 

[Bombjack]

mrsnake,

infact, limit is usually played a lot looser than no limit, due to the higher need to steal and protect your blinds in limit, due to their higher reletive size compared to the pot size.

in a full ring table, anything over a VPIP of 20 and a PFR of like 14 is pretty much spew...and teh best players will have stats of like 15/10 or so.

in a 5 way NL game, good stats will generally be between 18/14 and 25/22. there are some players that can play a LAGgy game of 30/25 profitably, but those players are few and far between

Interesting, I'll try to tighten up a bit as I move up. But many of the players at this level are so bad you can profitably widen your range a bit and increase your hourly win rate. Normally I'm around 30/15 5-handed, probably because there's a lot of limping and free looks at the flop from the blinds.

 

[dbitel]

bombjack,

its actually the other wayaround.

since the players are so bad, you can't play as many hand profitably as you don't get the fold equity require to play such hands

 

[Bombjack]

But by seeing more flops you get to take advantage of the big post-flop mistakes you get from weak players. Sklansky and Miller say that in loose games you should loosen up (NLHTAP p.185)... as well as some other adjustments (bigger pre-flop bets with big pairs, value betting top pair, bluffing less). Fold equity is less important because you're winning through value betting rather than bluffing.

 

[Bombjack]

If anyone was wondering, he had pocket Nines and I got stacked. However no-one's said my push was terrible so I don't feel that bad.

 

[Bombjack]

Had a similar hand just now... thought back to dbitel's advice - check-raise all-in on the turn... it worked a treat.

5♠ on the turn is both good and bad for me. Good because it means he's less likely to have a set on the flop, and gives me the nut flush draw. Bad because it puts a possible flush on the board (although tbh I don't see Villain raising with a naked non-nut flush draw here), and by pairing the board, in the unlikely event he did flop a flush or 2 pair, my flush draw is no good.

Another case of someone overplaying K6 suited!

Seat 1: Villain - $64.57
Seat 2: protasevic - $68.63
Seat 3: marcobri - $37.91
Seat 4: we1shboy - $6.59
Seat 5: Bombjack - $89.25
Seat 6: Andre292 - $50.88
Moving Button to seat 1
protasevic posts small blind ($0.25)
marcobri posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [ ] to Bombjack
we1shboy calls $0.50
Bombjack raises to $2
Andre292 folds
Villain calls $2
protasevic folds
marcobri calls $2
we1shboy folds
Dealing Flop [ ]
marcobri checks
Bombjack bets $4
Villain raises to $12
marcobri folds
Bombjack calls $12
Dealing Turn []
Bombjack checks
Villain bets $10
Bombjack raises to $75.25 (all-in)
Villain calls $50.57 (all-in)
Returning $24.68 to Bombjack uncalled
Villain shows [ ]
Bombjack shows [ ]
Dealing River []
Taking Rake of $3 from pot 1
Bombjack has Two Pairs: Kings, 5s
Bombjack wins $128.89 with: Two Pairs: Kings, 5s

 

[crash7]

AK is such a sticky hand. You really have to be careful when you play it. Because the A and the K are such nice cards people like to play lots of combinations of them K10 or better or AX. This makes it hard when they catch two pair as you have such a strong kicker you want to push it hard. The trick to playing AK well is playing it hard when you hit hard and playing it assertively when you dont hit as hard. Remember a pair is just a pair. You will win more money betting top 2 pair or straights hard than you will betting your top pair hard. If your opponent catches the right flop and is on a draw even an all in putting them at 2:1 on their money could still be okay pot odds should they have a 45-50% draw. I prefer to limp AK from early position and raise from late position. Then I bet about pot should I hit top pair. If I am faced with resistance I slow down and proceed VERY cautiously. Even if someone hits two pair you still have 3 outs to catch your other pair and there is a chance of running board pairs to win it with your kicker. AK isnt a made hand though so dont play it like one. AA and KK are made hands and should be played aggressively. AK however is drawing at hitting top pair or nut flushes and straights. Dont get too heavily invested on a low ranking hand such as a single pair. Save your big aggressive bets for big aggressive hands.