Thoughts on big blind ante?

[Millie232]

Personally, I think it's an awful idea. It's passable in tournaments where levels are long, but my local casino has started doing them with 15-20 minute levels and I'm really not enjoying it.

I would normally post a better discussion, but I'm on my phone right now: I'll post a little more of my thoughts later.

What does everybody think of the big blind antes? What are your experiences?

 

[tauri103]

the antes encourage players to take more risk because it has more money in the pot and your stack decreases faster and faster. This allows to create more action on the table. Personally it does not bother me because it especially allows to reduce the temp of play in the MTT.

 

[pineknob]

the antes encourage players to take more risk because it has more money in the pot and your stack decreases faster and faster. This allows to create more action on the table. Personally it does not bother me because it especially allows to reduce the temp of play in the MTT.

Well... i can live with bb antes but i prefer paying my own because it just feels normal and keeps me engaged. I see an advantage of the new way because its easier fpr the dealer and they dont have to reshuffle as often because of accidentally dealing the flop before deleaing the cards. They get confused when they scoop up all the antes and think all the action is over...

 

[Yanko57]

It kills the game by making it faster...

Just my 2 cents

 

[smknginmaine]

BB ante is the way to go. Live tourneys are slowed considerably by each player having to ante every hand. The dealer's job is easier and thing go faster with BB ante. There is no difference in cost to the player.
Many- if not most- casinos have already adopted it. Online it doesn't really matter much as as everything is near instant and automatic.
I know a few live tourney grinders and all are fans of BB ante. It's not going away. If your casino doesn't do BB ante now, they will.
:smokin:

 

[SirYivx]

Antes generally spice up the play by inflating pots, inducing more action. However, I was a bigger fan of the Button Ante, since the BB is already posting dead money into the pot. It's a good idea though, as it saves time and makes things more convienient for all players.

 

[pineknob]

Antes generally spice up the play by inflating pots, inducing more action. However, I was a bigger fan of the Button Ante, since the BB is already posting dead money into the pot. It's a good idea though, as it saves time and makes things more convienient for all players.

Is the button ante a thing somewhere?

 

[SirYivx]

Is the button ante a thing somewhere?

It used to be. I think it was used in the pokerstars Big Game that aired in 2010-2011. That was definitely a different time back then though.

 

[Debi]

I love BB ante - speeds up the game a bit and makes the early levels a lot more interesting. Pretty much every live tournament player I know prefers them now.

Button antes are not good and you rarely see them.

 

[smknginmaine]

Is the button ante a thing somewhere?

Button ante is a cash game variation.

 

[Poker_Mike]

I find that if I have not increased my starting stack substantially by 600/300 then it really hurts to post the BB and the antes for the whole table at the same time.

It will take a while for the field to adjust to this format. Currently I see people misplay this format all the time. Such as, the BB defending too much because they are emotionally invested in the pot.

Good luck !

 

[Bozovicdj]

It will take a while for the field to adjust to this format. Currently I see people misplay this format all the time. Such as, the BB defending too much because they are emotionally invested in the pot.

I love this line, as this was my first thought when heard of BB ante format.
It just seems that the game is 0.5bb/2bb which would make the BB position defend more and with a wider range of hands.
Also, I don't really believe that bb ante speeds the game that much. For example whenever I missed placing ante, while dealing cards, dealer would tell me to post it. It's not like he is wasting any time on me.
Now, I understand that in big casinos the rule is for players to post ante, dealer scoops the chips and pile them -THEN deals the cards. But in all honesty, I haven't ever seen dealers being so strict in smaller casinos and poker rooms...

 

[Poker_Mike]

I love this line, as this was my first thought when heard of BB ante format.
It just seems that the game is 0.5bb/2bb which would make the BB position defend more and with a wider range of hands.
Also, I don't really believe that bb ante speeds the game that much. For example whenever I missed placing ante, while dealing cards, dealer would tell me to post it. It's not like he is wasting any time on me.
Now, I understand that in big casinos the rule is for players to post ante, dealer scoops the chips and pile them -THEN deals the cards. But in all honesty, I haven't ever seen dealers being so strict in smaller casinos and poker rooms...

Thank you for the compliment Bozo.

It really does speed the game up. Just imagine the floor being called over because a player claims that they already put their ante out and will not pay again despite what the dealer said.

The biggest reason to want to play this format is that the wsop live events have all gone Big Blind Ante and so you might as well get used to the format and get good at it.

Good luck !

 

[chronical]

mixed feelings.
on 1 hand making hands faster is good so you dont see just nut-peddlers... on the other abusing that BB making them pay BB, ante, double ,ante,stradle, your rent.... seems excesive

 

[Luvepoker]

While I do think they need to adjust the BB ante when you are down to 2 table as they are become very short handed as time goes on, I found I really like the BB ante. There is less issues with the dealer trying to get everyone ante and the arguments about I put my in already but the best thing about it is we get dealt more hands per level. More hands and more poker is always a good thing.

 

[kowrip]

If you are asking about BB ante vs. regular ante, then I prefer the BB ante. I hate having to put a chip in for the ante on every hand and then wait for the dealer to make change for all the players who only have a bigger chip. The BB ante accomplishes the same thing as a normal ante, but it makes things easier and faster. Granted, it takes some getting used to since you get whacked for 2.5BB for every orbit of the table. It makes you a bit tighter in MP/LP and more aggressive in EP if you are getting short.

 

[HaroldHouse]

This would be a good format for special freerolls on sites like Pokerstars where the field is so big. I just played in the Prizepool Madness Freeroll. I got knocked out early around 3000th place, but games like that are where I would think this format would be great.

 

[eetenor]

Good advice

Personally, I think it's an awful idea. It's passable in tournaments where levels are long, but my local casino has started doing them with 15-20 minute levels and I'm really not enjoying it.

I would normally post a better discussion, but I'm on my phone right now: I'll post a little more of my thoughts later.

What does everybody think of the big blind antes? What are your experiences?

Thanks for sharing.

This video might help.

 

[kowrip]

Granted, it takes some getting used to since you get whacked for 2.5BB for every orbit of the table.

I should have stated this better. With either format, you are getting hit with roughly 2.5BB for each orbit. What I meant to say was that you get hit with the ante + the BB all at once. So, it makes plays in EP with a short stack more urgent than the other positions.

 

[Ovuvuevuevue]

No time spent changing chips, less hassle and faster play, I'm in love with BB ante

 

[dreamwalker3]

first time i hear this is this a new thing when it come?

 

[Blanerd420]

Personally, I think it's an awful idea. It's passable in tournaments where levels are long, but my local casino has started doing them with 15-20 minute levels and I'm really not enjoying it.

I would normally post a better discussion, but I'm on my phone right now: I'll post a little more of my thoughts later.

What does everybody think of the big blind antes? What are your experiences?

Tournaments don't typically make much money for the house. In fact most cardroom/casinos offer tournament play with hope you'll play other games. Now the BB Ante is definitely the houses idea, and it is a compromise. We'll simply have to pay higher entry fees as an alternative. Which I am 100% on board with, because the BB Ante only exists to get the game to end ASAP. If their excuse of "it saved time" were true, then the BB Antes would start when traditional antes happen, but that's not the case! So they're lying. They also say it helps by preventing to have to explain every hand that there's an ante that everyone has to pay. Yet explaining the BB Ante happens every hand. And let's face it, it literally cuts your stack value in half!! So actual strategy is non-existent. Plus, the house typically takes a lax approach to tournaments. I've had tournaments start without a dealer at my table!! It's a pathetic attempt to get you to play blackjack. I'm most likely going to stop playing BB Ante, since like I said strategy is non-existent. People just shove all in with 10-X or higher. That's bingo. They turned poker into bingo. Now we can refuse to play until they change their policies. That's what I'll be doing.

 

[laihuynh]

Speed up, not wait.

 

[dreamer13]

The fact that the blind in poker is not fixed means that large tournaments operate with thousands and tens of thousands of dollars. Even bankroll calculations, the probability of winning, and other factors in professional poker are measured in blinds.The presence of ante and the fact that blinds in tournaments grow are the main criteria for the dynamism of the game. After all, as the match progresses, blinds increase, participants make call poker and risk larger sums each time. Therefore, each of their steps and each combination can be decisive.