Jblocher1
Legend
Silver Level
Sup guys so people have been asking about hypers because well.... They are very interesting and some members asked me to make a guide thread for hypers... So why not?
First things first, guys.... Accept this is skill. There is luck, but just like the rest of variations of poker, over an infinite sample size of games it is 100% skill. Once you accept this fact we can begin
Alright so next.... BRM..... Have like 100+ buy ins for these because swings are crazy in these. Be prepared for massive heaters and massive downswings. If you do what I'm doing right now and play with like 15BI you will probably go broke. Just something to keep in mind.
So typical hyper structure is going to be like 300 chip starting stacks with blinds beginning at 15/30 and increasing every 3 minutes. Basically this puts you into a shove fold spot as soon as the game opens. For beginners you should pretty much only be open jamming, never limping.... Never min raising, none of that crap.
There are exceptions however, a lot of regs will be jamming over limpers with anything decent since they recognize that the majority of limpers will be suckers who don't understand that they should be open shoving. Those players will generally open shove most aces, so when they limp it appears really weak and for the most part they are weak. Regs will jam over limpers fairly wide because they recognize that they have a lot of FE against the standard limp range for a fish.
Well hmmmmm.... How can we as non fish exploit this reg tendency? Limping monsters occasionally. Usually only AA/KK. Why? Because regs will jam over you uber light because what have u done? U have created a sense of FE for villain that is really non existent. Villain obv has no FE but he doesn't know that. For a he knows you could just be trying for a cheap flop and he will shove hands like QK/Ax any pocket pair and some other hands we crush. The thing is we don't always want to limp monsters because well.... People will catch on. So we need to open shove our monsters just as often if not more often then we limp them. (Limping AA/KK should only be attempted on tables with a specific set of dynamics)
So yeah lets just go level by level for blinds and talk about what we should be doing.
Level one: 15/30:
First couple hands there's no need to shove crappy cards.... We have 10BB, and steals aren't vital yet because we steal the blinds and have 345.... Well who cares that's not a big difference. In this level we should be playing really just premiums from my experiences. Since this is six max I'm fine with open shoving A10+/66+ as like a very rough shove range, other than that fold. Usually 1-2 players will be KO'd in this level and remember.... 2/6 players get payed.
Level two: 20/40:
Ahhhh and the plot thickens. If we still have 1 starting stack we have 7.5BB. If we steal we gain 60 chips which is beginning to give us incentive to steal pots and open jam our buttons, still though it's not vital at this stage. Since blinds have gone up my shove range will now be wider.... 22+/JK+ kind of hands. Remember.... Don't min raise to 80 when u have a stack of 300... If your hand is good enough to min raise for almost 1/3 of your chips it's good enough to open shove. There isn't much of a sense of urgency yet at this level, don't rush the game. Stay calm.
Level 3: 25/50:
Alright.... Time to get active. Shoving a lot of my buttons, a steal is pretty valuable at this point. Absolutely shove all pocket pairs out of any position. The closer to the button I am the wider I'm going to shove. Basically, any two face cards are hands we should be going with. It's true.... When we shove JK and get a call.... We are probably behind. But it really does not matter. It's still a profitable jam on the button lets say, because it's really damn tough for our opponents to call us without an ace or a pocket pair or two faces. We will be getting lots and lots of folds, and we will be stealing often which is what makes the shove profitable.
Don't get me wrong.... You can shove hands like 38 on your button if steal dynamics at the table are decent, in fact I like the shove sometimes. The times our opponents call us, we will often have two live cards as opposed to a hand that is dominated and crushed. Plus there's the major idea of us stealing and increasing our stack by almost 33%. That's a huge increase and it's very important. Open up your range at this level.
Not only should you be shoving wider.... But since your opponents are also shoving wider you can call shoves wider. When you are BB and button shoves with 5BB well his range will be very wide... You can call with any pocket pair, any ace.... And depending on the buttons tendencies most or all kings. Just remember that your villains need to chip up just as much as you need to which means they will shove pretty wide. Adjust to the game and catch bluffers.
Level 4: 30/60
Steals at this point are invaluable. If you made it to this point there are probably 3 people left which means we are on the bubble. People don't want to bubble, it's the same as tournies. A lot of players will rock up because they wanna make the money. The average stack will be 600 at this point, all throughout the hyper you should mr aiming for having 600 chips. That's a pretty good goal if you want to make the money. If you still have like 400.... Jam like all of your buttons... You will successfully take down the blinds very often. Hands that are less likely dominated are good for shoves. Shove small blinds into the big blind often.... Steal steal steal. If all goes well you will be heads up
The last stage: at this point you and your opponent will probably both be under 10BB.... Or around that area. At this point you essentially playing a heads up hyper turbo.
Do remember, we are playing to win.... Not for second, so steal steal steal.... Open jam all aces, all pocket pairs.... It's similar to the other stages.
This is just a really rough guide. Use this thread to post any hands, any questions... Anything about hypers, feel free to correct me on anything.
But remember guys..... There's absolutely no skill to this at all.... I just blindly shove in and hope I win
lol.
Enjoy guys. Thoughts?
First things first, guys.... Accept this is skill. There is luck, but just like the rest of variations of poker, over an infinite sample size of games it is 100% skill. Once you accept this fact we can begin
Alright so next.... BRM..... Have like 100+ buy ins for these because swings are crazy in these. Be prepared for massive heaters and massive downswings. If you do what I'm doing right now and play with like 15BI you will probably go broke. Just something to keep in mind.
So typical hyper structure is going to be like 300 chip starting stacks with blinds beginning at 15/30 and increasing every 3 minutes. Basically this puts you into a shove fold spot as soon as the game opens. For beginners you should pretty much only be open jamming, never limping.... Never min raising, none of that crap.
There are exceptions however, a lot of regs will be jamming over limpers with anything decent since they recognize that the majority of limpers will be suckers who don't understand that they should be open shoving. Those players will generally open shove most aces, so when they limp it appears really weak and for the most part they are weak. Regs will jam over limpers fairly wide because they recognize that they have a lot of FE against the standard limp range for a fish.
Well hmmmmm.... How can we as non fish exploit this reg tendency? Limping monsters occasionally. Usually only AA/KK. Why? Because regs will jam over you uber light because what have u done? U have created a sense of FE for villain that is really non existent. Villain obv has no FE but he doesn't know that. For a he knows you could just be trying for a cheap flop and he will shove hands like QK/Ax any pocket pair and some other hands we crush. The thing is we don't always want to limp monsters because well.... People will catch on. So we need to open shove our monsters just as often if not more often then we limp them. (Limping AA/KK should only be attempted on tables with a specific set of dynamics)
So yeah lets just go level by level for blinds and talk about what we should be doing.
Level one: 15/30:
First couple hands there's no need to shove crappy cards.... We have 10BB, and steals aren't vital yet because we steal the blinds and have 345.... Well who cares that's not a big difference. In this level we should be playing really just premiums from my experiences. Since this is six max I'm fine with open shoving A10+/66+ as like a very rough shove range, other than that fold. Usually 1-2 players will be KO'd in this level and remember.... 2/6 players get payed.
Level two: 20/40:
Ahhhh and the plot thickens. If we still have 1 starting stack we have 7.5BB. If we steal we gain 60 chips which is beginning to give us incentive to steal pots and open jam our buttons, still though it's not vital at this stage. Since blinds have gone up my shove range will now be wider.... 22+/JK+ kind of hands. Remember.... Don't min raise to 80 when u have a stack of 300... If your hand is good enough to min raise for almost 1/3 of your chips it's good enough to open shove. There isn't much of a sense of urgency yet at this level, don't rush the game. Stay calm.
Level 3: 25/50:
Alright.... Time to get active. Shoving a lot of my buttons, a steal is pretty valuable at this point. Absolutely shove all pocket pairs out of any position. The closer to the button I am the wider I'm going to shove. Basically, any two face cards are hands we should be going with. It's true.... When we shove JK and get a call.... We are probably behind. But it really does not matter. It's still a profitable jam on the button lets say, because it's really damn tough for our opponents to call us without an ace or a pocket pair or two faces. We will be getting lots and lots of folds, and we will be stealing often which is what makes the shove profitable.
Don't get me wrong.... You can shove hands like 38 on your button if steal dynamics at the table are decent, in fact I like the shove sometimes. The times our opponents call us, we will often have two live cards as opposed to a hand that is dominated and crushed. Plus there's the major idea of us stealing and increasing our stack by almost 33%. That's a huge increase and it's very important. Open up your range at this level.
Not only should you be shoving wider.... But since your opponents are also shoving wider you can call shoves wider. When you are BB and button shoves with 5BB well his range will be very wide... You can call with any pocket pair, any ace.... And depending on the buttons tendencies most or all kings. Just remember that your villains need to chip up just as much as you need to which means they will shove pretty wide. Adjust to the game and catch bluffers.
Level 4: 30/60
Steals at this point are invaluable. If you made it to this point there are probably 3 people left which means we are on the bubble. People don't want to bubble, it's the same as tournies. A lot of players will rock up because they wanna make the money. The average stack will be 600 at this point, all throughout the hyper you should mr aiming for having 600 chips. That's a pretty good goal if you want to make the money. If you still have like 400.... Jam like all of your buttons... You will successfully take down the blinds very often. Hands that are less likely dominated are good for shoves. Shove small blinds into the big blind often.... Steal steal steal. If all goes well you will be heads up
The last stage: at this point you and your opponent will probably both be under 10BB.... Or around that area. At this point you essentially playing a heads up hyper turbo.
Do remember, we are playing to win.... Not for second, so steal steal steal.... Open jam all aces, all pocket pairs.... It's similar to the other stages.
This is just a really rough guide. Use this thread to post any hands, any questions... Anything about hypers, feel free to correct me on anything.
But remember guys..... There's absolutely no skill to this at all.... I just blindly shove in and hope I win
lol. Enjoy guys. Thoughts?
