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[QUOTE="PokerFunKid, post: 4109905, member: 118024"]
Tough one. Without icm it is a clear defend to me. With icm it gets a bit more tricky, because some of the value from the hand will be on boards we wont like to get it in with. Flops like 89x, or what do we do on Q98? 4way to the flop, facing a cbet i wont like my spot. Even on flops like 945, will you like your hand facing a cbet on the bubble? I wouldn't. So i think folding is fine. I would probably call and stack off on those boards in your situations, but when its an important big bubble following icm rules it might actualy be a fold. I can't tell for sure what the best is but i'd go for call without icm, a call with your current situations versus face up players that are bad and not very spewy post flop, and fold when in some situations. Though, thinking about how short the game is, while a stack opens and shorty's call from a short stack i may see this as a lot of strength and not think we aint deep enough to get value out of your 9T the times you do hit a flop. Especialy to prevent tough spots in a freeroll, with hands as weak as 9T in a 4way pot with so many shortstacks involved that will probably go with it with a piece from the flop i think folding is fine and probably better.

As i was writing i started to think about it more and think its defo a fold, even without icm given the stack sizes i think its prety close and maybe even a fold.
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