Sitting with two pair

[t1riel]

pokerstars Game #6071347833: Tournament #30265322, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/08/27 - 14:30:48 (ET)
Table '30265322 1057' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: djb23 (1610 in chips)
Seat 2: tony the cap (1490 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: t1riel (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: BIGJLITTLE (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Josh04 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: mel666 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: tlcnufc (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: EvilChipnevl (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: bullets13 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
t1riel: posts small blind 10
BIGJLITTLE: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to t1riel [6s 8c]
Josh04: calls 20
mel666: calls 20
tlcnufc: calls 20
EvilChipnevl: calls 20
bullets13: folds
djb23: folds
tony the cap: folds
t1riel: calls 10
BIGJLITTLE: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c As 8h]
t1riel: bets 20
BIGJLITTLE: folds
Josh04: calls 20
mel666: raises 80 to 100
tlcnufc: raises 80 to 180
EvilChipnevl: folds
t1riel: raises 80 to 260
Josh04: raises 1220 to 1480 and is all-in
mel666: folds
tlcnufc: calls 1220 and is all-in
t1riel: ???

 

[Jack Daniels]

To me this is a fold. (Plus this is PokerStars, so if you aren't already beaten, it's coming.)

The PF call was okay with all those limpers, pot odds were good. Flop seems great, too, hitting two pair. I think your lead out bet was a little low, though. I'm thinking 75 - 100 would have been better in my eyes (maybe even pot sized with so many potential callers). You bet and get a call + solid raise + minimum raise. I suppose that I can live with reraising here, but if you were going to do it, it needs to be more than the minimum. Preferably, though, I think folding or just calling would be better. Then an all in behind you and a caller? I have to fold at this point. I don't really know where I am at, but with all of the limps preflop, it is not unreasonable to think that one of them is holding A8, A6, 88, or 66.

 

[tenbob]

PokerStars Game #6071347833: Tournament #30265322, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/08/27 - 14:30:48 (ET)

CALL !!!

 

[scifell]

I have to agree with tenbob. With only two 6's and two 8's left in the deck, the odds that you would ever be beaten here (even with all the limpers) is fairly low. Combine that with the fact that this is very early in a freeroll tournament and I'd say you would be foolish to fold here.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

PokerStars Game #6071347833: Tournament #30265322, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/08/27 - 14:30:48 (ET)
Table '30265322 1057' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: djb23 (1610 in chips)
Seat 2: tony the cap (1490 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: t1riel (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: BIGJLITTLE (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Josh04 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: mel666 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: tlcnufc (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: EvilChipnevl (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: bullets13 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
t1riel: posts small blind 10
BIGJLITTLE: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to t1riel [6s 8c]
Josh04: calls 20
mel666: calls 20
tlcnufc: calls 20
EvilChipnevl: calls 20
bullets13: folds
djb23: folds
tony the cap: folds
t1riel: calls 10
BIGJLITTLE: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c As 8h]
t1riel: bets 20
BIGJLITTLE: folds
Josh04: calls 20
mel666: raises 80 to 100
tlcnufc: raises 80 to 180
EvilChipnevl: folds
t1riel: raises 80 to 260
Josh04: raises 1220 to 1480 and is all-in
mel666: folds
tlcnufc: calls 1220 and is all-in
t1riel: ???

What on earth is the logic behind the min-rerereraise?

This is the funniest hand I've seen in a while.

 

[zinzan1000]

Freeroll or otherwise, you paid your 300 to receive the information you needed, I am assuming at this point you are playing disciplined poker.
Its a great flop for you in many ways, but without taking into consideration your betting pattern post flop, ( I have seen better ) its a fold for sure.
You purchased information at the cost of 300 chips with a flop strongly in your favour.
You paid your fee and received your information, what happened next tells you most of what you need to know.
Cheap at half the price to realise where you stand, leave them to it.

Of course we are talking about a freeroll here with early madness, and anything goes in such a donkfest, but nevertheless T, play it like I know you can and let it go.
I am viewing it from a point of view where every game/tourn I play costs me an entry fee regardless of whether it is free or not.( PMA )
The same situation would never/or hardly ever arise in an entry fee based MTT, ( for a decent price ) but if it did then with the subsequent betting pattern its screaming trips or aces over and with only 4 genuine outs at your disposal its time to fold.

In my opinion, the best part of your play was finding out information ( though I would of handled it differently ) but once that information became available to you ( which is vital ) the choice you were left with was simple.
Good luck.

 

[t1riel]

Here's what happened:

PokerStars Game #6071347833: Tournament #30265322, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/08/27 - 14:30:48 (ET)
Table '30265322 1057' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: djb23 (1610 in chips)
Seat 2: tony the cap (1490 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: t1riel (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: BIGJLITTLE (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Josh04 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: mel666 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: tlcnufc (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: EvilChipnevl (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: bullets13 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
t1riel: posts small blind 10
BIGJLITTLE: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to t1riel [6s 8c]
Josh04: calls 20
mel666: calls 20
tlcnufc: calls 20
EvilChipnevl: calls 20
bullets13: folds
djb23: folds
tony the cap: folds
t1riel: calls 10
BIGJLITTLE: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c As 8h]
t1riel: bets 20
BIGJLITTLE: folds
Josh04: calls 20
mel666: raises 80 to 100
tlcnufc: raises 80 to 180
EvilChipnevl: folds
t1riel: raises 80 to 260
Josh04: raises 1220 to 1480 and is all-in
mel666: folds
tlcnufc: calls 1220 and is all-in
t1riel: calls 1200 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6c As 8h] 7♦
bullets13 has returned
*** RIVER *** [6c As 8h 7d] K♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
t1riel: shows [6s 8c] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
Josh04: shows [Ac Qc] (a pair of Aces)
Josh04 is sitting out
t1riel collected 120 from side pot
tlcnufc: shows [Ad Th] (a pair of Aces)
t1riel collected 4420 from main pot
cj1507 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4540 Main pot 4420. Side pot 120. | Rake 0
Board [6c As 8h 7d Ks]
Seat 1: djb23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tony the cap (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: t1riel (small blind) showed [6s 8c] and won (4540) with two pair, Eights and Sixes
Seat 4: BIGJLITTLE (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Josh04 showed [Ac Qc] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: mel666 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: tlcnufc showed [Ad Th] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: EvilChipnevl folded on the Flop
Seat 9: bullets13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[joosebuck]

you gotta get more money in on that flop man. tptk is NOT that big of a dog to bottom two pair. you are very lucky one of them didnt have AK (and that they shared an ace.)

 

[Jack Daniels]

Very nice hand. I'm glad it worked out for you. I may have been too conservative in my response, but I'm still thinking that I would have folded had I actually played into the hand the same way (even though results oriented view would show me that fold would have ultimately been wrong).