Should I have folded QQ in this FT?

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Live poker small tournament. 100$ buyin. 3 places paid: 800$ 1st, 500$ 2nd, 300$ for the 3rd place.
5 players left
MP: 15bb
CO: 10bb
BU: 45bb
SB: 32bb
BB: 50bb

MP, CO, BU folded
SB opens 3.5bb with QQ
BB goes all in
SB should call or fold here?

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With 2 players with smaller stacks than you, it would be wiser to Fold, To be honest even AA could get busted and it would be game over for you, But had it been the CO that had pushed all-in with 10 BB, I would have snap called in an instant.
At this point in the game You could be guaranteed 3rd place and my reaction would be to play the player, not your cards, The BB has you covered and he knows you are risking a prize place if you call.
I would reluctantly fold, even if I think he is bluffing, and wait for a better spot. He could have any number of Ace rag hands or King Rag hands, that would beat you if he hits the highest card in his hand.
I would be interested in what you actually decided on and whether my Fold was the best option.
 
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If you fold QQ, then per definition you only call KK and AA. Imagine how profitable it then is for BB to jam any two cards. So no you should not fold. But you could have limped to take away this rejam spot from the chip leader. Then if he raise, you can jam with fold equity. And otherwise play a small pot with him.
 
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Live poker small tournament. 100$ buyin. 3 places paid: 800$ 1st, 500$ 2nd, 300$ for the 3rd place.
5 players left
MP: 15bb
CO: 10bb
BU: 45bb
SB: 32bb
BB: 50bb

MP, CO, BU folded
SB opens 3.5bb with QQ
BB goes all in
SB should call or fold here?

Thanks!
I say a call makes sense
The BB might do this with any pair e.g 99/10 10 just to get the SB out of the way and win the pot. QQ are very strong in this position.
 
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Thanks, I surely called.. he showed AK and the A came in the river. I did not regret calling but I have not studied many spots like this pre-bubble with several short stacks.. and wanted to double check it with you guys… ! Feel better now, next time they’ll hold! cheers, thank you
 
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btw I like the limp suggestion… paying the OR and in the flop-turn we got in this case… surely winning the pot.. thanks formthe suggestion!
 
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Thanks, I surely called.. he showed AK and the A came in the river.
In that case limp-jamming would not have changed anything, since he is not folding AK, or at least he is not supposed to. Just a bit of an unfortunate spot with two shorter stacks hanging around near the bubble.
 
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u played fine better luck next time
 
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You can't fold QQ you had a great opportunity to double up and become the chip leader. Also no need to open so big in the first place as with a weaker hand you would hav to fold.
 
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Thanks, I surely called.. he showed AK and the A came in the river. I did not regret calling but I have not studied many spots like this pre-bubble with several short stacks.. and wanted to double check it with you guys… ! Feel better now, next time they’ll hold! cheers, thank you

Kind of proves my point to Fold then? Nothing is a sure thing in Poker, I have learned that from 20 odd years of playing, but there comes a time when you stop playing your hand and play the player. I was heads up in a Tournament, and chip leader by a long mile when my opponent shoved all in and I instantly called. Now I make it a rule never to look at my cards until it is my turn to act, so had not looked before I called,
The dealer turned the cards over, firstly the A/K suited of my opponent, then my 6/2 off, Everyone laughed at my hand when it was shown, and I spiked a 2 on the River, they soon stopped laughing.
If I had taken the time to look at my cards, I am sure I would have folded 6/2 off, but trusting in the Poker Gods I didn't bother, I just didn't give a damn one way or the other, I had enough of a lead to double my opponent up 3 or 4 times without it doing me any real damage. If you had folded your hand you may have been in the money, in my case I won it, not by playing my hand, but by calling when he was in trouble!
 
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you had a great opportunity to double up and become the chip leader.
True but essentially this was the bubble of a 9-man SnG (very similar payouts), and in that format it is important to lock up a min-cash before going after the win. Hero was extremely mid-stacked and sitting between the two chip leaders, which is a position, that warrent nitting up completely, until the short stacks are gone, or the stack distribution has changed. That still does not mean, we should be looking to fold QQ preflop.

But we should also not help the two chip leaders build up big pots, so they can put us into the ICM bin. And that is why, I would prefer to limp my entire range from SB in this spot, and maybe even go for a limp-call with QQ. And then just basically let him bomb into us postflop. But with all that being said it is also just a bit of an unfortunate spot, that we run QQ into AK, when its blind vs. blind, and the player in BB has us covered.
 
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10s or AK AAs or KKs would have re raised . This is where you win the tournament SNAP 🫰.his head off.
 
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