$ NL HE MTT: MP VS CO - Shove is the best play?

[miniadan]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Freeroll

1. Freeroll

Currency

$

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How would you play this hand?

Do you think the shove on the turn was a good play or would you do it differently?

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#Game No : 636918690
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 636918690 *****
15/30 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Tournament #262055490 Free - Table #68 9 Max (real money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Dreamrace ( 1.956 )
Seat 2: choprav ( 1.884 )
Seat 3: lucinhadaAK ( 2.130 )
Seat 4: renatesouza ( 1.582 )
Seat 5: alesya90 ( 1.936 )
Seat 6: pokerbrain67 ( 1.776 )
Seat 7: MegaZilla ( 2.248 )
Seat 9: Santatih ( 2.034 )
Seat 10: PiotrK. ( 2.454 )
pokerbrain67 posts ante [3]
choprav posts ante [3]
PiotrK. posts ante [3]
Dreamrace posts ante [3]
lucinhadaAK posts ante [3]
MegaZilla posts ante [3]
renatesouza posts ante [3]
alesya90 posts ante [3]
Santatih posts ante [3]
MegaZilla posts small blind [15]
Santatih posts big blind [30]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lucinhadaAK [ Kh, Jh ]
PiotrK. folds
Dreamrace folds
choprav folds
lucinhadaAK raises [90]
renatesouza folds
alesya90 calls [90]
pokerbrain67 folds
MegaZilla folds
Santatih folds
** Dealing flop ** [ Td, Qh, 7d ]
lucinhadaAK checks
alesya90 bets [126]
lucinhadaAK raises [504]
alesya90 calls [378]
** Dealing turn ** [ 9h ]
lucinhadaAK bets [1.533]
alesya90 calls [1.339]
** Dealing river ** [ Js ]
** Summary **
lucinhadaAK shows [ Kh, Jh ]
alesya90 shows [ Qs, 7s ]
lucinhadaAK collected [ 3.938 ]

 

[feisas7991]

check call on the flop

 

[eetenor]

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Do you think the shove on the turn was a good play or would you do it differently?

For some reason the hand isn't showing up complete on the replay, so here it is:

#Game No : 636918690
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 636918690 *****
15/30 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Tournament #262055490 Free - Table #68 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Dreamrace ( 1.956 )
Seat 2: choprav ( 1.884 )
Seat 3: lucinhadaAK ( 2.130 )
Seat 4: renatesouza ( 1.582 )
Seat 5: alesya90 ( 1.936 )
Seat 6: pokerbrain67 ( 1.776 )
Seat 7: MegaZilla ( 2.248 )
Seat 9: Santatih ( 2.034 )
Seat 10: PiotrK. ( 2.454 )
pokerbrain67 posts ante [3]
choprav posts ante [3]
PiotrK. posts ante [3]
Dreamrace posts ante [3]
lucinhadaAK posts ante [3]
MegaZilla posts ante [3]
renatesouza posts ante [3]
alesya90 posts ante [3]
Santatih posts ante [3]
MegaZilla posts small blind [15]
Santatih posts big blind [30]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lucinhadaAK [ Kh, Jh ]
PiotrK. folds
Dreamrace folds
choprav folds
lucinhadaAK raises [90]
renatesouza folds
alesya90 calls [90]
pokerbrain67 folds
MegaZilla folds
Santatih folds
** Dealing flop ** [ Td, Qh, 7d ]
lucinhadaAK checks
alesya90 bets [126]
lucinhadaAK raises [504]
alesya90 calls [378]
** Dealing turn ** [ 9h ]
lucinhadaAK bets [1.533]
alesya90 calls [1.339]
** Dealing river ** [ Js ]
** Summary **
lucinhadaAK shows [ Kh, Jh ]
alesya90 shows [ Qs, 7s ]
lucinhadaAK collected [ 3.938 ]

When we decide to take any action we always want to think about how do we get max value from what range?
So take the time to build a range that calls and folds and see if sizing effects that range---keep in mind what our range is when we check raise this flop--

I am thinking I do not want to check raise flop jam turn Vs the Villains similar range to ours in other words the V will have a strong range when they call the check raise but it will be too condensed to call the jam on the turn with enough frequency for it to be the best play

i ran this in the solver We lead flop range 50% freq this hand 69%--- if we check we call 98%---if we do XR it is small 33% or 55% pot
Solver checks this hand 29% freq bets 33% pot 53.7% freq never shoves-- ev difference is 41.66 33% 40.33 shove not huge but if our V overfold that ev difference would be much greater

If our V cannot fold than shoving turn is fine

 

[eetenor]

If the V only had top of their range here to call you than we cannot use this as a " the shove is best decision point"

 

[_420_420_]

No need to raise the flop, although you basically have no fold equity against this specific hand. Then you can still go for max value with bets on the turn and river. But it worked out for you here because villain has a strong hand too.

 

[sibkaz]

You did the right thing! ) If it were a droflash or a set, let them pay for the rever)