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Firstly it's bad timing running into AA.

For me at those blind levels and your chipstack it's a little early to be shoving pre in a team game, especially when the BB has double your chips, but unlucky running into AA there.
 
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I think you took an unnecessary risk. TT is a hand for a 3bet and evaluating what the opponent is going to do.
But in the end you took a risk. It could have gone really well, but unfortunately it went wrong since the BB was overpowered.
This is Poker.
 
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Firstly it's bad timing running into AA.

For me at those blind levels and your chipstack it's a little early to be shoving pre in a team game, especially when the BB has double your chips, but unlucky running into AA there.
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I think you took an unnecessary risk. TT is a hand for a 3bet and evaluating what the opponent is going to do.
But in the end you took a risk. It could have gone really well, but unfortunately it went wrong since the BB was overpowered.
This is Poker.
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I think you made the right move by going all in pre considering that there was a limper in front of you. Your jamming was good because you wanted to protect your hand which may be vulnerable to the limper and the big blind also considering that you were shallow stacked, around 8.9bb. Unfortunately the big blind got Aces, he snap called and you lost. Overall the play you made i think its the best.
 
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I think you made the right move by going all in pre considering that there was a limper in front of you. Your jamming was good because you wanted to protect your hand which may be vulnerable to the limper and the big blind also considering that you were shallow stacked, around 8.9bb. Unfortunately the big blind got Aces, he snap called and you lost. Overall the play you made i think its the best.
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It's hard to say what I would have done, but I think it is important that there were many at the table with shorter stacks than yours. I think you could have done a small raise or just call to see what happens on the flop. However, I understand your play since you had less than 10 BBs.
 
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It's hard to say what I would have done, but I think it is important that there were many at the table with shorter stacks than yours. I think you could have done a small raise or just call to see what happens on the flop. However, I understand your play since you had less than 10 BBs.
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Tough spot given the team dynamics and ICM implications in the league structure but don't beat yourself up too much because it was very unlucky for the BB to wake up with AA.
 
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Nothing you could have done there. He just had Aces. I would have done the same thing with the chipstack that you had.

I think you took an unnecessary risk. TT is a hand for a 3bet and evaluating what the opponent is going to do.
But in the end you took a risk. It could have gone really well, but unfortunately it went wrong since the BB was overpowered.
This is Poker.

He had less than 10BBs left. It's all-in or fold at this point.
 
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Nothing you could have done there. He just had Aces. I would have done the same thing with the chipstack that you had.



He had less than 10BBs left. It's all-in or fold at this point.
Thanks Jason!
 
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The effective stack was less than 10BB, which mean, we are either pushing or folding, and of course we are not folding TT, when the only action in front of us is a limp. If anyone is unsure about a hand like this, then they need to take or retake the CC 30 day course. The chance of BB waking up with JJ+ is only 2%, so 98% of the time there is a more favourable outcome, where he either fold or call with worse.
 
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The effective stack was less than 10BB, which mean, we are either pushing or folding, and of course we are not folding TT, when the only action in front of us is a limp. If anyone is unsure about a hand like this, then they need to take or retake the CC 30 day course. The chance of BB waking up with JJ+ is only 2%, so 98% of the time there is a more favourable outcome, where he either fold or call with worse.
Thank you @fundiver199 :D Do I have to change this in a context of league play now... This is a big question.

This explanation is fantastic!
 
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Solvers want you to flat and then call shoves and 3 bet non all-in and call off so the result is the same you get broke here. The question is how does your V play their bluffs if you flat- if they have very few bluff raises then we want to raise TT then call off and get broke. I would raise to 2.5 vs CC MTT players most often :unsure::geek:
 
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Solvers want you to flat and then call shoves and 3 bet non all-in and call off so the result is the same you get broke here. The question is how does your V play their bluffs if you flat- if they have very few bluff raises then we want to raise TT then call off and get broke. I would raise to 2.5 vs CC MTT players most often :unsure::geek:
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To not cost precious points to my team in desperate need, but I see your point.
I am not familiar with, how the league works. But if outlasting one more opponent would give a massive benefit to the team, then it might make the situation similar to a satellite bubble. And in that case this information should have been included in your original post. On a satellite bubble you could just fold here and hope for someone else to bust, before the blinds get back. However if it was more like the bubble on a normal MTT, then TT is still an easy jam, and its not even anywhere near the bottom of the range, you should be jamming.
 
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I am not familiar with, how the league works. But if outlasting one more opponent would give a massive benefit to the team, then it might make the situation similar to a satellite bubble. And in that case this information should have been included in your original post. On a satellite bubble you could just fold here and hope for someone else to bust, before the blinds get back. However if it was more like the bubble on a normal MTT, then TT is still an easy jam, and its not even anywhere near the bottom of the range, you should be jamming.
Heartful thanks. Honestly.
 
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