$250 NL HE MTT: Slow play middle set

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hero utg 5s5c 25bb raises 2.2bb, LJ 30bb calls, BU 30bb calls, BB 30bb calls

Flop 5d6h2c (10,3bb)

4x checks

Turn 7c

BB bets 3,6bb, hero??? I was thinking about raise, because board was getting more drawy, but I called., too not show strength and encourage other players,LJ calls, BU folds

River 9c (21bb)

BB bets 6bb, hero? (19bb remaining)
 
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I wonder in which poker room you found such a limit? And everyone is sitting with 30 bb.:D
 
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My thinking on this hand is that with a stack of 25 BBs to start the hand and I flop a set I am almost never folding. Way in the past I would fold too much depending on the board runout not realizing that with 25 BBs you have to be prepared to bust and not afraid of it.

I think the real question in this hand is should we be opening UTG with 55 and this stack size? This hand plays better deep and most flops we wont like too much so what are we doing in a multi way pot? Besides that question though, I would play this hand to never fold and to make sure I get my chips in the middle by the end of the hand. I think betting on the flop into this many players is fine as you should get at least one floater and the 77-99 hands that did not jam pre are not going anywhere. However, you can play the hand as you did as well although I would raise the turn. If you get folds at that point then it probably wouldnt be from a hand that would call your river jam with worse anyway.

As played, I wanted to get my chips all in the middle by the end of the hand on the flop but here I am not sure what calls us that is worse minus some weird two pair hand that overcalled pre like 97 suited or 76 suited so I guess I just call here. Definitely not folding but this is why on this texture of the turn I like raising. Could be a moot point cause we could be behind with the turn card but with a set and 25 BBs to start, Im not looking fold during the hand.
 
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Preflop
With this stack size I think, small pairs up to 55 or 66 is just a fold UTG. I mean... what are hoping for here other than to get multible callers and flop a set? Our hand does not play well postflop with short stacks, we do not want to call 3-bets, and if we just hope, that everyone will fold, we are not facilitating that by holding two low cards.

Flop
The SPR is only a little more than 2, so I dont see any reason for some fancy check-raise. And I also dont think, checking induce a lot of bluffs in a 4-way pot. So unless they specifically turn top pair or pick up a flushdraw, we are not getting value from hands like KJs anyway, and hands like 77-TT or 6X are more likely to pay now rather than later. So I would just bet here for value. You dont have to go huge, but something like 30-40% pot will get called often enough at least by someone.

Turn
This was a bad card for you, since 98 and 77 got there, and they are absolutely hands, someone could have. So if you checked the flop, why would you want to raise now, that your hand is much worse? This makes no sense, so as played, this is a clear call.

River
Another terrible card, since there are now 4 cards to a straight and 3 to a flush. However you have underrepped your hand, and you are getting amazing pot odds. So I cant see myself ever folding here, but there is also no reason to raise. Just stick in the call and hope, he is sort of blocking with a hand worse than yours like maybe a two pair or a worse set.
 
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Rajten said:
No icm considerations.


hero utg 5s5c 25bb raises 2.2bb, LJ 30bb calls, BU 30bb calls, BB 30bb calls

Flop 5d6h2c (10,3bb)

4x checks

Turn 7c

BB bets 3,6bb, hero??? I was thinking about raise, because board was getting more drawy, but I called., too not show strength and encourage other players,LJ calls, BU folds

River 9c (21bb)

BB bets 6bb, hero? (19bb remaining)
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There is no reason to slow play vs this many players and this board is connected to the ranges of two of the other callers BTN and BB. So this is a 100% frequency bet---only the size of the bet will vary based on how likely players are to fold on the flop.

Turn you call to get other players to call-----a good learning moment for you would be to put this hand into Equilab and look at how much equity your hand has vs multiple draws on turn.. When you see the numbers you may decide to start thinking about raising to deny equity on these types of turns.

One liner to a straight which the BB has- backdoor flush comes in - 3 way pot the other player can have straights and flushes- BB could have had the straight on the turn- I am never in this spot as I would never check flop--- I assume you fold - you could call but BB has to be really bad at poker for you to be ahead here and you have to be ahead of both of them:unsure::geek:
 
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