$2 NL HE MTT:

[Geo90]

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Hold'em

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No Limit

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MTT

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888Poker, $2 + $0.20 - Hold'em No Limit - 250/500 (60 ante) - 8 players
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Jevilgod (UTG): 20,385 (41 bb)
Greenskunk (UTG+1): 26,330 (53 bb)
WhatevsNevs (MP): 10,140 (20 bb)
Blackmilk21 (MP+1): 8,120 (16 bb)
Samthepike (CO): 10,000 (20 bb)
Eddy7 (BU): 32,247 (64 bb)
Muttytre (SB): 9,380 (19 bb)
Gyurika90 (BB): 21,144 (42 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,230) Hero (Gyurika90) is BB with A♥ Q♥
2 players fold, WhatevsNevs (MP) raises to 1,000, 1 fold, Samthepike (CO) calls 1,000, 2 players fold, Gyurika90 (BB) 3-bets to 3,500, 1 fold, Samthepike (CO) calls 2,500

Flop: (8,730) 8♠ 6♣ 2♠ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) bets 1,400, Samthepike (CO) calls 1,400

Turn: (11,530) 4♦ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) checks, Samthepike (CO) bets 5,040 (all-in), Gyurika90 (BB) folds

Total pot: 11,530
Samthepike (CO) wins 11,530

How would you have played here? Pre flop would it have been better to go all in against two smaller stacks? On the flop was this Cbet very weak or should I have gone all in? On the river the 4 doesn't change anything he may have had some kind of hand pair , he has 44/17 stats so in hindsight I like the preflop allin the best

 

[Goggelheimer]

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Jevilgod (UTG): 20,385 (41 bb)
Greenskunk (UTG+1): 26,330 (53 bb)
WhatevsNevs (MP): 10,140 (20 bb)
Blackmilk21 (MP+1): 8,120 (16 bb)
Samthepike (CO): 10,000 (20 bb)
Eddy7 (BU): 32,247 (64 bb)
Muttytre (SB): 9,380 (19 bb)
Gyurika90 (BB): 21,144 (42 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,230) Hero (Gyurika90) is BB with A♥ Q♥
2 players fold, WhatevsNevs (MP) raises to 1,000, 1 fold, Samthepike (CO) calls 1,000, 2 players fold, Gyurika90 (BB) 3-bets to 3,500, 1 fold, Samthepike (CO) calls 2,500

Flop: (8,730) 8♠ 6♣ 2♠ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) bets 1,400, Samthepike (CO) calls 1,400

Turn: (11,530) 4♦ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) checks, Samthepike (CO) bets 5,040 (all-in), Gyurika90 (BB) folds

Total pot: 11,530
Samthepike (CO) wins 11,530

How would you have played here? Pre flop would it have been better to go all in against two smaller stacks? On the flop was this Cbet very weak or should I have gone all in? On the river the 4 doesn't change anything he may have had some kind of hand pair , he has 44/17 stats so in hindsight I like the preflop allin the best

Question is what do you want to represent on the Flop with your Donkbet
(trips, don´t bet here two pair don´t bet here, a flushdraw will wait and see).
You play OOP so check flop and safe chips, pot control is the option here, luckily your villain did not raise you directly.

AI preflop with 42 bb with AQs aigainst 2 players, not the best move.

The 4 on the Turn changed a lot, 53 and 75 make a straight, 44 hits a set.

44/17 stats on which sample size?? 50 hands??
Don´t overvalue Stats that have a small sample size, they may give a hint if sample size is small but not the whole picture.
LP calling ranges are very wide, so 53s or 75s may be in the calling range of villain.

 

[Geo90]

First of all thank you for the detailed analysis, it helped me to understand this situation better
I wanted to drop it but the lift was too small, it was a faulty donkbet on this texture
You're right OOP would have been better with pot control and a raise to fold ,

3betre pereflop 53,75 not sure if he would call, but he probably has 44

I'm looking back now, I really only have 40 hands on my opponent, so I can't base my decision on that

 

[Geo90]

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[eetenor]

Question is what do you want to represent on the Flop with your Donkbet
(trips, don´t bet here two pair don´t bet here, a flushdraw will wait and see).
You play OOP so check flop and safe chips, pot control is the option here, luckily your villain did not raise you directly.

AI preflop with 42 bb with AQs aigainst 2 players, not the best move.

The 4 on the Turn changed a lot, 53 and 75 make a straight, 44 hits a set.

44/17 stats on which sample size?? 50 hands??
Don´t overvalue Stats that have a small sample size, they may give a hint if sample size is small but not the whole picture.
LP calling ranges are very wide, so 53s or 75s may be in the calling range of villain.

We want to look at this spot based on effective stacks. Our V have 20 bb so all-in is a viable choice preflop.

 

[besttest11]

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Jevilgod (UTG): 20,385 (41 bb)
Greenskunk (UTG+1): 26,330 (53 bb)
WhatevsNevs (MP): 10,140 (20 bb)
Blackmilk21 (MP+1): 8,120 (16 bb)
Samthepike (CO): 10,000 (20 bb)
Eddy7 (BU): 32,247 (64 bb)
Muttytre (SB): 9,380 (19 bb)
Gyurika90 (BB): 21,144 (42 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,230) Hero (Gyurika90) is BB with A♥ Q♥
2 players fold, WhatevsNevs (MP) raises to 1,000, 1 fold, Samthepike (CO) calls 1,000, 2 players fold, Gyurika90 (BB) 3-bets to 3,500, 1 fold, Samthepike (CO) calls 2,500

Flop: (8,730) 8♠ 6♣ 2♠ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) bets 1,400, Samthepike (CO) calls 1,400

Turn: (11,530) 4♦ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) checks, Samthepike (CO) bets 5,040 (all-in), Gyurika90 (BB) folds

Total pot: 11,530
Samthepike (CO) wins 11,530

How would you have played here? Pre flop would it have been better to go all in against two smaller stacks? On the flop was this Cbet very weak or should I have gone all in? On the river the 4 doesn't change anything he may have had some kind of hand pair , he has 44/17 stats so in hindsight I like the preflop allin the best

Going all-in preflop would have been a strong move since the smaller stacks might fold, and on the flop, betting bigger or going all-in would have put more pressure on your opponent.

 

[eetenor]

First of all thank you for the detailed analysis, it helped me to understand this situation better
I wanted to drop it but the lift was too small, it was a faulty donkbet on this texture
You're right OOP would have been better with pot control and a raise to fold ,

3betre pereflop 53,75 not sure if he would call, but he probably has 44

I'm looking back now, I really only have 40 hands on my opponent, so I can't base my decision on that

As you were the last aggressor preflop this is not a donk bet- it is a standard C-bet. As to the stats the vpip is very high so this player is loose --what you want to know is % call vs 3 bet but that is where 40 hands will not be enough data to make a decision.
The small c-bet is a good play we are repping a strong narrow range we seldom ever check this spot. Check fold turn is fine vs most V.

 

[Geo90]

Thanks for the answers, the best decision will be preflop allin, next time I will pay more attention to the size of the effective stacks, at this stage there was still a possibility to rebuy, so you can play a bit more aggressive

 

[Bhargav]

You got a raise, and two villains are involved they might have good hands (high pocket pairs, or premium suited like yours) so you should call and fold. Your stack size is good. You can hold for few more rounds before you go Allin.

if you are prepared to rebuy before the rebuy time ends, then you can go Allin.