$11.80 NL HE MTT: AKs in SB

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

11.80

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

Stats for the BTN are : Hands Played 17 at my table VPIP 35 PFR 31 and 3-bet 29

Do you guys call, 4-bet or shove after the BU 3-bet?
Now what you do after he shoves? Do you call and put your tournament life at risk?

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 350/700 (100 ante) - 8 players


UTG: 42,775 (61 bb)
UTG+1: 36,009 (51 bb)
MP: 17,443 (25 bb)
MP+1: 87,576 (125 bb)
CO: 10,000 (14 bb)
BU: 47,256 (68 bb)
SB (Hero): 46,810 (67 bb)
BB: 29,997 (43 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,850) Hero is SB with K♦ A♦
4 players fold, CO raises to 1,750, BTN 3-bets to 4,900, Hero calls 4,550, 1 fold, CO 4-bets to 9,900 (all-in), BTN 5-bets to 47,156 (all-in), SB (Hero) ?

 

[fundiver199]

Because its a bounty tournament, you kind of want to keep CO involved, and for that reason I dont mind flatting here. The purpose is to get CO to shove, so when that happen, you absolutely have to call, even though BTN have also moved in. BTN should have a wide range here, because he should be trying to isolate CO and win his bounty, so even though you dont cover BTN, calling is still profitable. So everything is good here, and the answer to "SB (Hero) ?" is "beat them into the pot and hope to run good". This is how, you make money in bounty tournaments.

 

[_420_420_]

You always want to get the money in here! Your opponent did it for you basically, but yes this is what you want to happen. being in early position this is also the best way that it could have played out considering that it got reraised and the money got in there.

 

[eetenor]

I think fundiver is 100% correct here and when we flat the AKdd we would only do it to call off so we want to have that preplan in place
We increase our skill by simplifying certain spots thus creating that preplan. That allows us to study other spots that are more difficult spots. This is one of those simplified spots in a BTT
We know before we even get dealt the hand that we are 100% playing AKs for stacks when we get it so when we look down at the hand we have one decision to make---how best do we get all-in?

 

[AKQ]

Stats for the BTN are : Hands Played 17 at my table VPIP 35 PFR 31 and 3-bet 29

Do you guys call, 4-bet or shove after the BU 3-bet?
Now what you do after he shoves? Do you call and put your tournament life at risk?

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 350/700 (100 ante) - 8 players


UTG: 42,775 (61 bb)
UTG+1: 36,009 (51 bb)
MP: 17,443 (25 bb)
MP+1: 87,576 (125 bb)
CO: 10,000 (14 bb)
BU: 47,256 (68 bb)
SB (Hero): 46,810 (67 bb)
BB: 29,997 (43 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,850) Hero is SB with K♦ A♦
4 players fold, CO raises to 1,750, BTN 3-bets to 4,900, Hero calls 4,550, 1 fold, CO 4-bets to 9,900 (all-in), BTN 5-bets to 47,156 (all-in), SB (Hero) ?

Fold
you could be against (AK AA KK) vs 88s vs your AdKd
could get lucky with QQ vs 88's vs AKd getting the twenty percent overlay of the cutoffs 10k vs the butn 50k
but many other scenarios don't give you good equity here
KK vs js10s vs AK
or even pure lunacy like
7h6h JsQs vs AK

still looks like bingo to me at that stack depth

 

[puzzlefish]

I don't like that hero doesn't have BTN villain covered, so calling the three-way all in is only playing for one bounty at the risk of hero's entire stack. And AKs is still only a draw. Do we typically want to flip for our entire buy-in at 67bb in a bounty MTT?

 

[fundiver199]

Do we typically want to flip for our entire buy-in at 67bb in a bounty MTT?

It depends on the situation. When I saw the hand first, I assumed, that CO had lost most of his chips, since he was so short. And in that case his bounty would be quite valuable. However looking at it again I see, he had exactly 10.000 chips. So maybe this was the starting stack, and CO had just late registered or reentered. In that case his bounty would only be worth something like 4BB assuming a regular PKO structure. 4BB is not a lot compared to a 67BB stack, and since the average stack was around 40k, we might also be near the money.

This does change things, and in that case I would probably either 4-bet jam myself to get fold equity against BTN. Or it could even be one of those rare cases, where maybe we look to get away from AKs as played and try to make it into the money rather than gambling to build a +100BB stack right now. It really depends on, how much COs bounty was worth, and if we were near the money. And therefore this information should always be included when posting a PKO hand for analysis.