$1.88 NL HE MTT: K9s in SB

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

1.88

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

I looked at the replay in GG's Pokercraft....so here are some info on the players ( unfortunately on reply you can only see the VPIP ) but I have 18 hands on this players:

CO player: VPIP 60 PFR 15 Limp 45 and Cold Call 50
BTN player: VPIP 40 PFR 15 Limp 20 and Cold Call 33
BB player: VPIP 15 PFR5 and Cold Call 20

None of them has any 3-bets preflop in 18 hands.

My first question is: Would you squezz here and make a shove? I really think this is a good position to shove with 20bb.
Second question: As played and since I was left with 17bb what is the more appropriate take here? *

Spoiler: my thoughts

(I decided to shove because I do believed that I was ahead of CO here )

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (120 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 59,094 (74 bb)
MP: 34,709 (43 bb)
MP+1: 20,150 (25 bb)
CO: 66,352 (83 bb)
BU: 44,596 (56 bb)
SB (Hero): 17,021 (21 bb)
BB: 3,020 (4 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,040) Hero is SB with 9♠ K♠
3 players fold, CO raises to 3,200, BTN calls 3,200, Hero calls 2,800, BB calls 2,100 (all-in)

Flop: (13,340) 5♠ 2♠ 9♣ (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets 13,701 (all-in), CO raises to 54,443, BU folds

 

[Andyreas]

Would you squezz here and make a shove? I really think this is a good position to shove with 20bb.

Even with the small sample size, I'd definitely jam here with those VPIPs.

As played and since I was left with 17bb what is the more appropriate take here? *

You flopped TP+FD and have SPR 1, so fine to jam here now.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
I actually prefer a fold here. They both have a high VPIP over 18 hands, but their PFR is not that high, and CO made a huge 4BB open, which usually indicate a stronger hand than, if he had limped or min-raised. So I think, you are against a somewhat strong range at least from CO, and I dont think, you have any fold equity, when the pot is already so large, and you also have a bounty on your head. I would prefer jamming over calling though, since when you just call, you are basically going to check-fold all flops, where you miss, and then you lose 20% of your chips just to see a flop.

Flop
You are obviously happy to stack off with top pair and a flushdraw, and with only a pot sized bet left and BB already all-in, I dont think, someone behind will always bet, if you check. And its a bit of a disaster, if it check through, and you then face a bet on a bad turn card. So I think, its fine to open jam here, which is a stop-and-go play. If they fold, thats fine, and if they call, thats also fine, since you are never that far behind, and you can even get called by worse.

 

[mariussica88]

Thank you all for the reply and feedback. 🙏

Here is the result of the hand:

Spoiler: Hand

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (120 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 59,094 (74 bb)
MP: 34,709 (43 bb)
MP+1: 20,150 (25 bb)
CO: 66,352 (83 bb)
BU: 44,596 (56 bb)
SB (Hero): 17,021 (21 bb)
BB: 3,020 (4 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,040) Hero is SB with 9♠ K♠
3 players fold, CO raises to 3,200, BTN calls 3,200, Hero calls 2,800, BB calls 2,100 (all-in)

Flop: (13,340) 5♠ 2♠ 9♣ (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets 13,701 (all-in), CO raises to 54,443, BU folds

Turn: (40,742) 5♥ (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (40,742) 3♥ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 40,742

Showdown:
CO shows A♥ J♦ (a pair of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) shows 9♠ K♠ (two pair, Nines and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 45%, Turn: 26%, River: 0%)

BB shows K♦ K♥ (two pair, Kings and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 48%, Turn: 69%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) wins 28,302
BB wins 12,440

 

[fundiver199]

So you won the side pot, which is always nice. Pretty wild that CO overjammed on the flop, but it just goes to show, how much some players overadjust to bounties in the micros. So I was definitely right about the chance of getting called by worse. And I was also right about his preflop sizing indicating a strong hand and not just some random 60% VPIP junk. So folding preflop would still have been the best decision, although you managed to suck out on a better hand this time.

 

[eetenor]

I looked at the replay in GG's Pokercraft....so here are some info on the players ( unfortunately on reply you can only see the VPIP ) but I have 18 hands on this players:

CO player: VPIP 60 PFR 15 Limp 45 and Cold Call 50
BTN player: VPIP 40 PFR 15 Limp 20 and Cold Call 33
BB player: VPIP 15 PFR5 and Cold Call 20

None of them has any 3-bets preflop in 18 hands.

My first question is: Would you squezz here and make a shove? I really think this is a good position to shove with 20bb.
Second question: As played and since I was left with 17bb what is the more appropriate take here? *

Spoiler: my thoughts

(I decided to shove because I do believed that I was ahead of CO here )

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (120 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 59,094 (74 bb)
MP: 34,709 (43 bb)
MP+1: 20,150 (25 bb)
CO: 66,352 (83 bb)
BU: 44,596 (56 bb)
SB (Hero): 17,021 (21 bb)
BB: 3,020 (4 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,040) Hero is SB with 9♠ K♠
3 players fold, CO raises to 3,200, BTN calls 3,200, Hero calls 2,800, BB calls 2,100 (all-in)

Flop: (13,340) 5♠ 2♠ 9♣ (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets 13,701 (all-in), CO raises to 54,443, BU folds

We want to be very careful squeezing vs this bet size preflop-- we need to know the V is going to fold some % but vs standard V they do not make it 4bb to then fold they are often doing that to raise get it in vs 1 player
Our SPR is not great in this spot to squeeze either and the opnr has a call you easily SPR as well