$1.88 NL HE MTT: A10o in HJ

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

1.88

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

What do you guys do in this position? I don't have any relevant info on the opponents since I played only 8 hands? I am curios do you guys 3-bet here, fold or just call?


GG Poker - 250/500 Ante 75 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

CO: 10,000 (20 bb)
BTN: 22,046 (44.1 bb)
SB: 36,496 (73 bb)
BB: 9,104 (18.2 bb)
UTG: 24,082 (48.2 bb)
UTG+1: 37,023 (74 bb)
MP: 21,336 (42.7 bb)
Hero (MP+1): 15,296 (30.6 bb)

8 players post ante of 75, SB posts 250, BB posts 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,350) Hero has
2 folds, MP raises to 1,500, Hero ?

 

[Goggelheimer]

What do you guys do in this position? I don't have any relevant info on the opponents since I played only 8 hands? I am curios do you guys 3-bet here, fold or just call?


GG Poker - 250/500 Ante 75 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

CO: 10,000 (20 bb)
BTN: 22,046 (44.1 bb)
SB: 36,496 (73 bb)
BB: 9,104 (18.2 bb)
UTG: 24,082 (48.2 bb)
UTG+1: 37,023 (74 bb)
MP: 21,336 (42.7 bb)
Hero (MP+1): 15,296 (30.6 bb)

8 players post ante of 75, SB posts 250, BB posts 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,350) Hero has
2 folds, MP raises to 1,500, Hero ?

Are you willing to play this hand if there is a 4-bet after you?
You have to invest nearly 1/3 of your stack for this not so great holding.
Button and SB cover you, BB may push too because he is the shortie.
AJ o may be a call/fold vs squeeze , AQo/S call jam vs squeeze.
3-bet broke moves are JJ+ AKo/s

 

[puzzlefish]

Fairly sure this is a fold from your position at that depth.

 

[Station_Master]

Easy fold in my view

 

[eetenor]

What do you guys do in this position? I don't have any relevant info on the opponents since I played only 8 hands? I am curios do you guys 3-bet here, fold or just call?


GG Poker - 250/500 Ante 75 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

CO: 10,000 (20 bb)
BTN: 22,046 (44.1 bb)
SB: 36,496 (73 bb)
BB: 9,104 (18.2 bb)
UTG: 24,082 (48.2 bb)
UTG+1: 37,023 (74 bb)
MP: 21,336 (42.7 bb)
Hero (MP+1): 15,296 (30.6 bb)

8 players post ante of 75, SB posts 250, BB posts 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,350) Hero has
2 folds, MP raises to 1,500, Hero ?

The issue with 3 betting AToff is better AX calls and worse AX folds- calling sucks if we hit an ace are we good or no? Calling also sucks if it goes multiway
I usually default fold in this spot but call the suited I never expect to 3 bet get folds but if it was possible, 25% of the time I would 3 bet.

 

[mariussica88]

Thank you for the replies. I indeed fold because I agree with Goggelheimer and eetenor that only the better Ax will call me there and I would need a lot of help from the board to win this, also there are a lot of players that need to act after me.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 250/500 (75 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 24,082 (48 bb)
UTG+1: 37,023 (74 bb)
MP: 21,336 (43 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 15,296 (31 bb)
CO: 10,000 (20 bb)
BU: 22,046 (44 bb)
SB: 36,496 (73 bb)
BB: 9,104 (18 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,350) Hero is MP+1 with T♦ A♥
2 players fold, MP raises to 1,500, MP+1 (Hero) folds, 3 players fold, BB 3-bets to 9,029 (all-in), MP calls 7,529

Flop: (18,908) 8♥ 3♠ 4♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (18,908) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (18,908) 4♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 18,908

Showdown:
BB shows K♣ A♣ (a pair of Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 12%, Flop: 1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

MP shows A♠ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 88%, Flop: 99%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

MP wins 18,908

 

[fundiver199]

Its a very large open compared to your stack size, your hand is not suited, you will often flop a dominated pair, and you have 4 more players left to act behind, who can squeeze. For all those reasons calling is not profitable. Its also not a good spot for a light 3-bet, since you are to deep to 3-bet jam and to shallow to 3-bet small without committing a significant percentage of your stack. So calling is not profitable, and 3-betting is not profitable, which only leave folding.

 

[feisas7991]

The issue with 3 betting AToff is better AX calls and worse AX folds- calling sucks if we hit an ace are we good or no? Calling also sucks if it goes multiway
I usually default fold in this spot but call the suited I never expect to 3 bet get folds but if it was possible, 25% of the time I would 3 bet.

wtf is this logic.
better ace shoves, worse ten calls vs 3bet
call and fold is fine too, i like to mostly 3bet this

edit; basically what im saying is you arent dominated like you are thinking, depends on a customer what we want to do really imo

 

[eetenor]

wtf is this logic.
better ace shoves, worse ten calls vs 3bet
call and fold is fine too, i like to mostly 3bet this

edit; basically what im saying is you arent dominated like you are thinking, depends on a customer what we want to do really imo

The point is even fish just fold weak AX hands when we 3 bet at a high frequency so we do not have enough value targets to make the AT a good 3 bet---why? when playing for stacks post flop AT sucks unless we hit two pair plus or the V is terrible.

We study to learn to not play each street thinking of only that street or that bet -we want to expand to think of preflop as the foundation to our further street play--

If however you are going to get lots of over folds to 3 bets pre and passive over folding post then yes absolutely throw in AT and 45s etc etc

 

[makisaa]

Generally I would not call or play this hand, because I estimate that the opponent has something very strong and that's why he rises preflop so much.