$1.10 NL HE MTT: why villain calls? is pokerstars rigged?

[rock0001]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

1.10

Currency

$

pokerstars Hand #251651876510: Tournament #3779534322, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (125/250) - 2024/07/24 21:31:59 ART [2024/07/24 20:31:59 ET]

Table '3779534322 5' 6-max Seat #4 is the button

Seat 1: Stifler Br (1665 in chips)

Seat 2: pal8029 (2089 in chips)

Seat 3: VaiChelsi (2108 in chips)

Seat 4: PRrock1 (21363 in chips)

Seat 5: 42Oedipius (5428 in chips)

Seat 6: tecbullGR (23166 in chips)

Stifler Br: posts the ante 60

pal8029: posts the ante 60

VaiChelsi: posts the ante 60

PRrock1: posts the ante 60

42Oedipius: posts the ante 60

tecbullGR: posts the ante 60

42Oedipius: posts small blind 125

tecbullGR: posts big blind 250

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to PRrock1 [8h Kh]

Stifler Br: folds

pal8029: calls 250

VaiChelsi: folds

PRrock1: calls 250

42Oedipius: folds

tecbullGR: raises 250 to 500

pal8029: calls 250

PRrock1: calls 250

*** FLOP *** [4s 8c Kc]

tecbullGR: bets 993

pal8029: raises 536 to 1529 and is all-in

PRrock1: raises 19274 to 20803 and is all-in

tecbullGR: calls 19810

*** TURN *** [4s 8c Kc] [Qc]

*** RIVER *** [4s 8c Kc Qc] [Jd]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

tecbullGR: shows [Ah Th] (a straight, Ten to Ace)

PRrock1: shows [8h Kh] (two pair, Kings and Eights)

tecbullGR collected 38548 from side pot

pal8029: shows [Td 8s] (a pair of Eights)

tecbullGR collected 6572 from main pot

PRrock1 finished the tournament in 103rd place

pal8029 finished the tournament in 104th place

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 45120 Main pot 6572. Side pot 38548. | Rake 0

Board [4s 8c Kc Qc Jd]

Seat 1: Stifler Br folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: pal8029 showed [Td 8s] and lost with a pair of Eights

Seat 3: VaiChelsi folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: PRrock1 (button) showed [8h Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights

Seat 5: 42Oedipius (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 6: tecbullGR (big blind) showed [Ah Th] and won (45120) with a straight, Ten to Ace

 

[rock0001]

what a joke almost 100 bb call with nothing,, even if he thinks i had a flush draw why would he thinks im going to shove almost 100 bb. its ridiculous to make a call there.

 

[fundiver199]

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Finally you were playing a $1.1 tournament, which is almost the same as play money. So its natural, that there are players, who just want to have some fun and dont even try to play well. Or maybe something came up, so he had to go.

 

[fundiver199]

Oh and one final comment, which is true for most bad beat stories. Would you also have complained about his bad play, if you had won the hand? Probably not and we win in poker, when our opponents make mistakes, so complaining about bad play is literally the most absurd thing. And to be honest you also played the hand poorly yourself. So rather than focusing on mistakes made by your opponents, you should focus on improving your own game. Have you taken the free 30 day CC course?

 

[rock0001]

Oh and one final comment, which is true for most bad beat stories. Would you also have complained about his bad play, if you had won the hand? Probably not and we win in poker, when our opponents make mistakes, so complaining about bad play is literally the most absurd thing. And to be honest you also played the hand poorly yourself. So rather than focusing on mistakes made by your opponents, you should focus on improving your own game. Have you taken the free 30 day CC course?

yes i would. you dont know me. i hate winning against players who make ilogical decisions. so yeah i would have also complained but of course i would also be much less angry because i won the hand.

 

[_420_420_]

yes i would. you dont know me. i hate winning against players who make ilogical decisions. so yeah i would have also complained but of course i would also be much less angry because i won the hand.

The point of poker is that we want our opponents to make mistakes

 

[MK_]

I think... if I'm reading it right, you flopped 2 pair... on a board with 2 hearts???.... did ya want a call, or you just wanted the pot?,

not sure I understand your play or frustration with the call, in any case tecbullGR has played 5 games on ps vs your 13K games.....,

really doubt he's the cause of too many of the issues👍

 

[fundiver199]

yes i would. you dont know me. i hate winning against players who make ilogical decisions. so yeah i would have also complained but of course i would also be much less angry because i won the hand.

If you want to play against better opponents, then you need to move up. Its pretty logical, that the cheapest tournaments are where, most of the beginners and less serious players go.

 

[rock0001]

I think... if I'm reading it right, you flopped 2 pair... on a board with 2 hearts???.... did ya want a call, or you just wanted the pot?,

not sure I understand your play or frustration with the call, in any case tecbullGR has played 5 games on ps vs your 13K games.....,

really doubt he's the cause of too many of the issues👍

there were two clubs on the board not 2 hearts. mainly just the pot to isolate and make villain fold a flush draw or hands like 56 or 78, however i also know that this player could make a call with any king, or even a middle pair so by playing this way i could win a huge pot most of the time if getting called. however what i dont find any sense is how could this player called with nothing, because even if im bluffing with a flush draw im still ahead so this play doesnt make sense and also we were both deep stack so why risk your entire tournament with an ace high on the flop after a 80 bb shove?

 

[rock0001]

If you want to play against better opponents, then you need to move up. Its pretty logical, that the cheapest tournaments are where, most of the beginners and less serious players go.

well, i get called a 5 bet shove on the sunday million with aq and i had queens. the turn and river comes an ace. next hand against the same player i shove after he bets on the flop on a QQA board, i had a9 suited. he calls with tens and of course a ten comes on the turn and im out. so even in higher limits there are still bad players who get lucky, however it is true that there are more good players in higher limits, however you need a big bankroll to afford the downswings which happens in every level.

 

[fundiver199]

mainly just the pot to isolate and make villain fold a flush draw or hands like 56 or 78

You dont want draws to fold on the flop. You want them to call, so you get value from a very strong hand. And you also dont want hands like top pair to fold. Which is why, your raise was way to large.

however you need a big bankroll to afford the downswings which happens in every level.

Yes and you also need skills to beat higher limits. So if you move up, you need to work on your game, unless you want to play with a budget and purely for fun.

 

[rock0001]

You dont want draws to fold on the flop. You want them to call, so you get value from a very strong hand. And you also dont want hands like top pair to fold. Which is why, your raise was way to large.

but if my raise was way too large why does villain calls 80 bb with A10 on a K84 board? you have to adjust your poker style in order to gain advantage and my big bet here works. he only had 4% of chances of winning the hand after the flop...

 

[fundiver199]

but if my raise was way too large why does villain calls 80 bb with A10 on a K84 board?

Because he is a complete beginner with only 5 games played on PokerStars. If you want to beat players with just some sort of idea, what is going on, you cant take a line like this, because they will just fold most of the hands, you want to get value from. So playing like this will prevent you from beating even something like $3.3 MTTs. And lets be honest now. After 10 years and 15.000 games you are still playing $1.1 MTTs and $2 SnGs and asking, if PokerStars is rigged. So something clearly need to be changed, if you have any kind of ambitions with poker.

you have to adjust your poker style in order to gain advantage and my big bet here works. he only had 4% of chances of winning the hand after the flop...

Sure but why are you complaining about his call then? If this was a jam for value, you should be extremely thrilled to get called by a hand, that had only 4% chance of winning.

 

[AKQ]

The point of poker is that we want our opponents to make mistakes

If I make a mistake its cuz its RIGGGGED!