$1.10 NL HE MTT: AJs in Satellite

mariussica88

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HJ stats after 5 hands: VPIP 80 PFR 0 Limp 100 Cold Call 67 - he went to showdown in his 3 previous hands with "crapy hands"
BU stats after 9 hands: VPIP 38 PFR 14 Limp 0 Cold Call 67 - he went to showdown in 3/9 hands played ( lost half his stack )

This is an $1.10 step 2 satellite to the Step 3 $11 New Year Special with only 54 players and 8 places paid.

1. On the flop do you think c-betting against this two players is a mistake and if you c-bet should it be more?
2. Given the turn card and since I improved a little is continuing to bet ok? or check/calling is better?

pokerstars, $1 + $0.10 - Hold'em No Limit - 75/150 (15 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 9,540 (64 bb)
MP (Hero): 9,790 (65 bb)
MP+1: 12,130 (81 bb)
CO: 12,885 (86 bb)
BU: 5,070 (34 bb)
SB: 9,790 (65 bb)
BB: 10,795 (72 bb)

Pre-Flop: (330) Hero is MP with A J
1 fold, Hero raises to 375, MP+1 calls 375, 1 fold, BTN calls 375, 2 players fold

Flop: (1,455) 7 4 T (3 players)
Hero bets 495, MP+1 calls 495, BTN calls 495

Turn: (2,940) K (3 players)
Hero bets 700, MP+1 calls 700, BTN calls 700

River: (5,040) J (3 players)
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 600, BTN raises to 3,485 (all-in), MP (Hero) folds, MP+1 calls 2,885

Total pot: 12,010

Showdown:
BU shows A Q (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 23%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

MP+1 shows K T (two pair, Kings and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

BU wins 12,010
 
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HJ stats after 5 hands: VPIP 80 PFR 0 Limp 100 Cold Call 67 - he went to showdown in his 3 previous hands with "crapy hands"
BU stats after 9 hands: VPIP 38 PFR 14 Limp 0 Cold Call 67 - he went to showdown in 3/9 hands played ( lost half his stack )

This is an $1.10 step 2 satellite to the Step 3 $11 New Year Special with only 54 players and 8 places paid.

1. On the flop do you think c-betting against this two players is a mistake and if you c-bet should it be more?
2. Given the turn card and since I improved a little is continuing to bet ok? or check/calling is better?

PokerStars, $1 + $0.10 - Hold'em No Limit - 75/150 (15 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 9,540 (64 bb)
MP (Hero): 9,790 (65 bb)
MP+1: 12,130 (81 bb)
CO: 12,885 (86 bb)
BU: 5,070 (34 bb)
SB: 9,790 (65 bb)
BB: 10,795 (72 bb)

Pre-Flop: (330) Hero is MP with A J
1 fold, Hero raises to 375, MP+1 calls 375, 1 fold, BTN calls 375, 2 players fold

Flop: (1,455) 7 4 T (3 players)
Hero bets 495, MP+1 calls 495, BTN calls 495

Turn: (2,940) K (3 players)
Hero bets 700, MP+1 calls 700, BTN calls 700

River: (5,040) J (3 players)
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 600, BTN raises to 3,485 (all-in), MP (Hero) folds, MP+1 calls 2,885

Total pot: 12,010

Showdown:
BU shows A Q (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 23%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

MP+1 shows K T (two pair, Kings and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

BU wins 12,010
Satty heuristics
1 Stack protection is more important than stack growth as we can win a seat with 1 chip

Multiway pots heuristics
1 We bet polarized ranges our best and our worst
2 We target the strongest range of the 2 we are up against for our betting choices
3 We play much much tighter OOP multiway as both our V have positional advantage

All of the above suggests we check flop- The player to our left has a very strong range which we would normally check to that range-- add into that we have a V that does not fold and building a pot OOP is not the #1 choice

:unsure::geek:
 
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Preflop
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Flop
I would not C-bet this hand out of position against two opponents. You do have some equity with overcards and backdoor draws, and sometimes you still have the best hand, but its very unlikely, you can both of them to fold, and your hand is really not good enough to bet for value. Instead its a check and evaluate spot. Probably calling if someone makes a very small bet, but otherwise just folding and moving on to the next hand.

Turn
You picked up a lot of equity with a 12 out draw all of which are to the nuts. Even so I still dont think, betting does a ton of good things here, since you are still unlikely to get both of them to fold, and its still not really a bet for value. I dont totally hate this small bet though, as it can be seen as sort of a block bet setting your own price to see the last card. This is only a valid strategy though, if you are unlikely to get raised. Which might be the case against these exact two opponents, since MP+1 had top two pair and did not even raise a hand that strong, which is a terrible play by him.

River
You missed both your draws but improved to second pair. Definitely a check and evaluate spot, and with the action behind you an easy fold.
 
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I think you just have to get into the habit of actually asking whether or not you have a reason to bet. The reasons to bet are for value, as a bluff, or, if you're on the Flop, maybe for equity protection. (E.g., if you have 55 on 932, this would be a case where you want to bet even though it's not really for value or as a bluff.) And you should only bet as a bluff if you have an idea which stronger hands will fold.

Flop: You have Ace high, so you don't bet for value. You're not betting as a bluff either since no better hand will fold here. There's some argument for equity protection against hands like KQ, but OOP you should generally bet less, so if the reason is meh, it's probably better to check.

Turn: You have Ace high, so you don't bet for value. This is also a very bad card to bluff since both opponents are likely to have tons of broadways in their range, which won't fold with KT in the middle. Like, a T is too good to fold, a K obviously won't fold, an OESD won't fold (certainly not to your sizing). So don't bet.

(And R is an easy fold.)
 
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