UFC 183 Nick Diaz Vs Anderson Silva

[S3mper]

@ UFC 183 Nick Diaz will be fighting Anderson Silva Jan. 31st 2015

Nick Diaz is probably THEE best conditioned fighter in the world with some of THEE best boxing in the world and amazing Ju Jitsu though it can be easy to forget since he loves to stand up

Anderson Silva the man who needs no introduction destroyed the middle weight division for years ever since he took the belt from Rich Franklin forever ago..

This fight is a big fight for both fighters as both fighters are actually coming off of 2 losses

Nick Diaz going as far as announcing retirement after his loss to GSP in a title shot who is dominating the Welter weight division.

Anderson Silva is coming off of his loss to Chris Weidman (twice) and a brutal broken leg from the rematch.

Anderson Silva claims to be back "Trust me I'm back" and I for one believe him

This is a fight that I want to see very badly.

 

[OzExorcist]

Purely as a spectacle yeah, this should be fun. Absolutely zero relevance to anything, but with the stage both guys are at they're just looking to put on a show for a big payday I think.

Assuming Silva comes back 100% (or close to it) I think he romps home easily in this. Fighting at his natural weight and has all the tools to test Diaz's chin over and over again.

 

[srissofredi]

Meh, the mere idea of this fight would be ridiculous prior to the Weidman bouts. If Anderson's chin isn't entirely shot it should bee a gimme. Still looking forward to see Diaz back inside the octagon, well both of them actually. Nick's taunting and trash talking and Anderson's show showboating could prove entertaining. Hopefully Nick's recent arrest doesn't mess things up.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2196891-nick-diaz-arrested-on-multiple-charges-ahead-of-ufc-183

And hopefully we'll see a stacked card.

 

[Raccoony]

Thanks for the news.I usually don't visit news sites,but this article was interesting.No one at UFC wouldn't even mention this at any of their PPVs,so thanks.

 

[TeUnit]

if Andersons mind is right, it should be an easy fight for him

 

[basse]

I think there are two ways to view this fight:

1. Anderson Silva is back to pre-injury form. In this case he should take the fight easily, and the main reason for the fight is to give Silva a big-name opponent so he can regain market value.

2. Silva is not back to pre-injury form, and this fight will act as a fairly tough test for him. Nick Diaz is not exactly known to go down easily (nor at all, really), and will surely try to bring the fight to Silva.

I think 1 is the much more likely explanation. Diaz always provides a lot of name recognition, whether the fight is a good match or not.

 

[OzExorcist]

...and the main reason for the fight is to give Silva a big-name opponent so he can regain market value.

IMO the main (maybe only) reason for this fight to happen is that it's pretty much guaranteed to be a huge payday for everyone involved.

Nothing wrong with that in this case, it's giving fans what they want, and it's not like it's shafting anyone out of a title shot or anything (like, say, Rousey v Carano would).

If we're talking "market value" in terms of being a PPV draw, then I don't think the fight will change much at all, regardless of the outcome. Both Silva and Diaz will continue to be fan favourites who draw big numbers.

If we're talking "market value" in terms of title relevance I don't think it'll really change much either. Hell, does Silva even want to get himself into the title picture again? I certainly don't get that impression from him. I don't even think he wanted to do the second Weidman fight, let alone a third one. To me, it seems he wants to finish out his career doing a few "fun" fights (like Randy Couture basically did, v Coleman, Toney, etc).

As for Diaz, he's moving up a weight class to take this fight so unless he plans on going to middleweight permanently (and fighting on a regular basis), I don't see it having any title implications either.

 

[DaveE]

Diaz if it there's a stoppage (my personal op). If it goes the distance Sylva's going to get hit...hard....lots.

Who knows then.

 

[basse]

IMO the main (maybe only) reason for this fight to happen is that it's pretty much guaranteed to be a huge payday for everyone involved.

Nothing wrong with that in this case, it's giving fans what they want, and it's not like it's shafting anyone out of a title shot or anything (like, say, Rousey v Carano would).

If we're talking "market value" in terms of being a PPV draw, then I don't think the fight will change much at all, regardless of the outcome. Both Silva and Diaz will continue to be fan favourites who draw big numbers.

If we're talking "market value" in terms of title relevance I don't think it'll really change much either. Hell, does Silva even want to get himself into the title picture again? I certainly don't get that impression from him. I don't even think he wanted to do the second Weidman fight, let alone a third one. To me, it seems he wants to finish out his career doing a few "fun" fights (like Randy Couture basically did, v Coleman, Toney, etc).

As for Diaz, he's moving up a weight class to take this fight so unless he plans on going to middleweight permanently (and fighting on a regular basis), I don't see it having any title implications either.

I do agree that the fight is not bad, even if it is somewhat insignificant. I'm certainly intrigued by it. They are both interesting personalities, and Diaz tends to put on a fight, so it should be fun. Volume punching versus Silva's (at least previously) razor sharp striking will be very interesting to see.

I do not agree that it's not setting Silva up though. IIRC he actually did say that he'd fight for the title, but that he's not aiming for it right now. I might misremember though, but I think I read that on Sherdog somewhere. One thing is for sure, the UFC would love to set up a Weidman v Silva III. If they can build Silva up a little, which this fight will, it should set them up for an extremely sellable fight.

 

[martymart48]

Anderson Silva vs Nick Diaz cool thank for info.Is leg is ok .
Weidman champ for now.

 

[OzExorcist]

I do not agree that it's not setting Silva up though. IIRC he actually did say that he'd fight for the title, but that he's not aiming for it right now. I might misremember though, but I think I read that on Sherdog somewhere. One thing is for sure, the UFC would love to set up a Weidman v Silva III. If they can build Silva up a little, which this fight will, it should set them up for an extremely sellable fight.

The thing I remember most is the post-fight interview when he first lost to Weidman. In a way he almost seemed relieved to have the pressure of being champion taken away... though he'd just been knocked out, so who knows.

I distinctly remember getting that impression though, and in subsequent interviews he repeated "Chris is the champ now" quite a lot, like the issue was settled and he didn't want any more to do with it. And when people have asked him what he actually wants to do, he's been suggesting things like fan-friendly superfights and that long-talked-about boxing match with Roy Jones Jr, not UFC championship bouts.

By and large he's always been a company man though, so if the UFC decide they want to pay him a big sum of money to fight for the championship again then he'll probably do it. Personally I think it'd be a bad thing for the division though.

First, if it's Weidman he's fighting then it's hard to see a third fight going a different way to the first two (broken limbs aside). Second, Silva will be just a few months shy of 40 when he takes on Diaz. He'll be over 40 by the time his next one rolls around. He's superhuman in a lot of ways, but even he can't possibly have more than a handful of fights left in his body. Even if he were somehow to win the belt, he'd be retiring after one or two more defenses at most, there'd probably have to be a Silva-Weidman IV (ugh) and it'd just stall all the other talent in the division.

I think everyone concerned is better off just going down the fan friendly superfight route. Give him a sort of "farewell tour", like what Randy Couture got, and leave the championship picture to the next generation of fighters.

 

[guutox]

UFC circus...

 

[davem86]

Should be a good 1.
What ever happened to ol' Kimbo Slice :boxing:
lol

 

[OzExorcist]

Should be a good 1.
What ever happened to ol' Kimbo Slice :boxing:
lol

Went 7-0 in professional boxing after he left the UFC (though I can't speak as to the quality of his opponents...) but last I heard Bellator were trying to get him on board to come back to MMA.

 

[basse]

The thing I remember most is the post-fight interview when he first lost to Weidman. In a way he almost seemed relieved to have the pressure of being champion taken away... though he'd just been knocked out, so who knows.

I distinctly remember getting that impression though, and in subsequent interviews he repeated "Chris is the champ now" quite a lot, like the issue was settled and he didn't want any more to do with it. And when people have asked him what he actually wants to do, he's been suggesting things like fan-friendly superfights and that long-talked-about boxing match with Roy Jones Jr, not UFC championship bouts.

By and large he's always been a company man though, so if the UFC decide they want to pay him a big sum of money to fight for the championship again then he'll probably do it. Personally I think it'd be a bad thing for the division though.

First, if it's Weidman he's fighting then it's hard to see a third fight going a different way to the first two (broken limbs aside). Second, Silva will be just a few months shy of 40 when he takes on Diaz. He'll be over 40 by the time his next one rolls around. He's superhuman in a lot of ways, but even he can't possibly have more than a handful of fights left in his body. Even if he were somehow to win the belt, he'd be retiring after one or two more defenses at most, there'd probably have to be a Silva-Weidman IV (ugh) and it'd just stall all the other talent in the division.

I think everyone concerned is better off just going down the fan friendly superfight route. Give him a sort of "farewell tour", like what Randy Couture got, and leave the championship picture to the next generation of fighters.

So I went and found the Anderson quote:
“Obviously right now it’s not my priority, but it’s not out of the question to fight for the title,” he said. “If I have the credentials to fight for the title, I’ll be more than glad to do it. I’m going to see how I perform [at UFC 183]. That’s my main priority now"

He does still sound fairly hesitant. Either way I agree that it'd be better for everyone if he goes the fan-fight route.

 

[basse]

Went 7-0 in professional boxing after he left the UFC (though I can't speak as to the quality of his opponents...) but last I heard Bellator were trying to get him on board to come back to MMA.

I get that Bellator is trying to get some name recognition, but I really find it sad that they appeal to the lowest of lows in trying to bring in Kimbo. Hyping this man is a disgrace. He punched a bunch of guys in youtube videos, that's it. As for his MMA stint, he was front kicked out by a random replacement. Seth Petruzelli even said that he was bribed to keep the fight standing. Don't support anything Kimbo related

 

[S3mper]

I get that Bellator is trying to get some name recognition, but I really find it sad that they appeal to the lowest of lows in trying to bring in Kimbo. Hyping this man is a disgrace. He punched a bunch of guys in youtube videos, that's it. As for his MMA stint, he was front kicked out by a random replacement. Seth Petruzelli even said that he was bribed to keep the fight standing. Don't support anything Kimbo related

Seth Petrruzelli Is no random replacement if you mean he is just some random fighter. If you mean he was picked last second then yeah. Seth is a great fighter.

As far as Kimbo Slice's run at The Ultimate Fighter look who beat him... Big Country Nelson who ended up winning and became one of the best heavy weights.

Kimbo slice just got into MMA too late in life and has arthritis, MMA isn't simple to learn but I have nod doubt that he could do well in MMA, I just don't see him as a top contender unless he has improved greatly...

As far as the bribe that isn't Kimbo's fault Elite XC (I think that's what it was called?) was at fault and were trying to become big at any cost.. also I think that Exlite XC put everything on Kimbo Slice and hyped him up way to early in his career which became his demise once he lost to good fighters.

 

[OzExorcist]

So I went and found the Anderson quote:
“Obviously right now it’s not my priority, but it’s not out of the question to fight for the title,” he said. “If I have the credentials to fight for the title, I’ll be more than glad to do it. I’m going to see how I perform [at UFC 183]. That’s my main priority now"

So of course, now he's come out in the past day or so and said that he "won't stop fighting until he gets his title back":

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/2...-wont-stop-fighting-until-i-get-my-title-back

Of course, this is just a few weeks after he was quoted saying "I’m over this thing of being champion, having the title". So go figure

 

[basse]

So of course, now he's come out in the past day or so and said that he "won't stop fighting until he gets his title back":

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/2...-wont-stop-fighting-until-i-get-my-title-back

Of course, this is just a few weeks after he was quoted saying "I’m over this thing of being champion, having the title". So go figure

Haha, oh man. For such an amazing and calculated fighter, he really strikes me as rather crazy in terms of his personality. I guess we already saw it with his in-fight antics, but also just how he goes back and forth on his opinion of his opponents, and now this.

 

[S3mper]

Dana White is probably pressuring him.