Tero
Legend
Loyaler
No.
Good poker rooms usually run a tight ship. This includes keeping a track of your customers. So good and no KYC are something that should not be used in a same sentence
R.Holynskyi
Visionary
Platinum Level
There seems to be a site called Replay Poker and that site also hosts our freerolls. This site does not involve playing for real money, only conditional chips are played there, but nevertheless, our freerolls have the equivalent of cash prizes. You can read more details here.
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turnupthebb
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Coin poker requires ID. You should read their ToS. They can do a random check at any time they feel like it to make sure that you have entered your real address and identity. If you lied about it when opening your account then they can close your account and take all your money.
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turnupthebb
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I dont agree. KYC is almost only required because of law. Government wants to know everything about all financial transactions. But for us players KYC does nothing. Scammers and criminals can easily get as many ID as they need for creating accounts on poker sites. If KYC is all a poker site does to keep games fair then games will not be fair.
Also people get scammed by poker sites who require KYC, it happens frequently. Don't forget about Full tilt. Regulations don't protect citizens, they only protect the elites running the world.
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turnupthebb
Enthusiast
Silver Level
OP, the only site I know of that is true anon site is SwC Poker. The other crypto poker sites are not really. SwC is the only true one.
I gave that pokersite a try for a week but action is almost dead there. There are about 100+ players online 24/7 which is going to be a lot of empty tables most days. It's a shame because this could be such a great poker site otherwise if it just had more players. Great rakeback, you can get 100% rakeback. And they have the lowest amount of rake too. You can play it in the browser too if you don't want to download their client.
So because of no action I decided to leave that poker site. Maybe in the future it will have more players when crypto becomes even more mainstream.
I gave that pokersite a try for a week but action is almost dead there. There are about 100+ players online 24/7 which is going to be a lot of empty tables most days. It's a shame because this could be such a great poker site otherwise if it just had more players. Great rakeback, you can get 100% rakeback. And they have the lowest amount of rake too. You can play it in the browser too if you don't want to download their client.
So because of no action I decided to leave that poker site. Maybe in the future it will have more players when crypto becomes even more mainstream.
dreamer13
Legend
Platinum Level
I withdrew to ACR without documents or a deposit, although some were asked to undergo verification. In general, it all depends on what amounts you are going to withdraw, where the money comes from, where you are from and where.
Tero
Legend
Loyaler
True, but if a site does not care about KYC, (and therefore is most likely in violation of law) it doesn't look good in any case.
finaltable1
Legend
Loyaler
No verification real money online poker site = paradise for credit card scammers. For those who steal databases of credit card infos from online tores such poker site will be even better than buying bitcoins for 10 dollars per coin... BUT such site won't live long, cause any payment processing company will be blocked really fast due to high amount of fraudlent transactions.
Suns of Beaches
Ok.jpeg
Platinum Level
Kyc is required for the sites to know who is playing on their site. Kyc=know ur customer.
Sorry but that statement "kyc does nothing for us players" is huge nonsense🤭 sites can see with it if someone was already banned or restricted and where that person is from etc. I would actually never trust any site that does not require kyc since people can just open multiple accounts and then sit at the same table from different ip's etc. No kyc required just opens up the door for any form of multiaccounting and cheating.
Full tilt was long long ago. And no, it does not happen "frequently" as u say. Its actually super rare a site just dissapears with customer funds. If they take the money and close accounts because someone did something against TOS then those actions are completely legit and have nothing to do with a scam.
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Suns of Beaches
Ok.jpeg
Platinum Level
And this is also completely untrue. I registered there only with an email. Never ever i had to give my real name or address. Lol.
Tero
Legend
Loyaler
We can't of course know what the situation was at the time when you signed-up.
But we can read what their TOS and KYC policy says today.
I would imagine that they become very interested in ID's when withdrawals are in question.
Risto234
põrandaalune pokkerimängija
Loyaler
Guess one poker room which has cardchat tournaments on regular basis isn't good then since it took them maybe like 5 years to come to conclusion "maybe we should let this individual verify himself" lol ...No.
Good poker rooms usually run a tight ship. This includes keeping a track of your customers. So good and no KYC are something that should not be used in a same sentence
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turnupthebb
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I guess it depends on perspective. There are many people in this world that have realized that a lot of laws we have are just corrupt and complete BS. There are many businesses that setup their HQ at countries that offer loop hole to bypass those regulations and there are many people happy to become their clients/customers.
In this case, OP mentioned coin poker which is a crypto site. Crypto is basically all about resisting government control and creating freedom, privacy and decentralization. So there are many people who are happy to see a poker site without KYC and all the hurdles you have to go through to have an account on for example GGpoker.
As an EU player I can't just deposit to GGpoker from my bank or CC. I have to open an account at some international internet bank, then use some unknown payment service I've never heard of. So many hoops to jump through, fees to pay, and any of these hoops can get tightened up or shut any time and then I can't withdraw my money from GGpoker. This kind of stuff happens all the time, just look at the whole thing with Nigel Farage who the UK banks banned because they didn't like his political opinion. Nigel is wealthy and connected so he could blow this up and fight back but most people can't do anything against it when they are victim to this corruption. That's why many people want crypto to succeed and give us freedom and get away from all this corrupt regulations that just do more harm than good.
Colluders can get around kyc. There are many people willing to let them use their ID.
Public VPNs are easy to blacklist but private/residential ones are difficult to detect.
Like I said, if KYC is the only thing they do to keep games fair then it won't be fair.
I don't know what they do to keep sites fair but they should have a team monitoring the tables 24/7 just like they have floor and cameras in casino checking for cheaters. Online they have a lot more data and history on every player and they can make AI flag possible cheaters so the team can take a closer look at it. This is the only real way to keep games fair imho but I'm not an expert.
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turnupthebb
Enthusiast
Silver Level
You think collusion only happens on sites that don't have KYC?
Collusion happens on all sites, even on sites like pokerstars and GG.
You just can't completely get rid of colluders, you can just make it harder for them and reduce how many there are but that's not happening with KYC, that happens by having a team monitoring the games and stats.
I just remembered one more way to detect cheating. It has to do with analyzing data that the poker security team has on all players. They can analyze for example the way you move your mouse, the way you use the keyboard etc. Just the way you move the mouse is very unique. 1000 people moving the mouse will be unique. So the AI can detect that it was 2 different people who moved the mouse. This can be useful for example to detect if it's suddenly a different person who is now playing after the player reached the final table. That's a popular form of cheating that at least used to happen on pokerstars, i dont know if it still is. It can also detect bots.
This data analyze can also be used to with high probability detect if a banned player have created a new account, because AI will match the mouse movement and see they are the same.
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Cooking
Legend
Loyaler
I think there are no poker rooms that you can guarantee that are never going to ask you to verify your account, but there are rooms that you're going to play for years and they aren't going to ask for your docs. Like PS for example, I've had play for more than 5 years until I had to verify my account there. Also, it's easy to verify your account on poker rooms, so, I don't see many problems in this.
LaNimmer
Visionary
Bronze Level
I was with PS for over 15 years and they never asked for verification. I finally sent some in and they would not accept. It took months before they OK'd it. I have withdrawn funds with no problems before and after,
Suns of Beaches
Ok.jpeg
Platinum Level
Have a very hard time in believing that. Ps is known to verify everyone at some point. Latest point would be when trying to withdraw.
This either never happened or it happened long long ago, like before 2010.
LaNimmer
Visionary
Bronze Level
Very sorry to disappoint you. As a poor poker player I never said it was often any great amount. A technical error perhaps? Oh no. PS never makes mistakes or maybe I was just lucky, such a rare occurrence in online poker are indeed rare these days.
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The Duhcider
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I disagree. Do you as a player at a no dox site need to be more vigilant and aware? Yes. Wanting anonymity doesn't always equate to nefarious practices.No.
Good poker rooms usually run a tight ship. This includes keeping a track of your customers. So good and no KYC are something that should not be used in a same sentence
