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[QUOTE="martin_macd, post: 446549, member: 14011"]
Hmmmm - I take your point entirely, and VIP points are not easy to accrue if you are playing tournaments only - 
 
HOWEVER (and I probably shouldnt be sharing this with you guys, but bugger it why not.) - There is a way to accumulate VIP points bloody quick.
 
The rules behind getting points [B](ring games this is)[/B] is that EVERY player on the table that received cards from the deal, receive a VIP point if the rake is €0.31 or above. This means that on a 1/2 table you should be able to rack up 60/80 points per hour per table - and only actually play in 20% of the hands (depending on how tight your game is). 
 
I had previously calculated the following table to judge how long it would take to earn 1000 points at different levels:
 
STAKES     %Pots with VIP     No of HANDS Dealt       No of POTS PLAYED
0,02/0,04         1                   135000                     27000
0,05/0,010        5                   27000                      5400
0,10/0,20         18                  7500                        1500
0,25/0,50         45                  3000                        600
0,50/1             55                   2455                       491
1,00/2,00          70                 1929                        386
2,00/4,00         100                 1350                       270
3,00/6,00         100                 1350                       270
5,00/10,00       100                 1350                       270

The Above figures are based on averages taken from [URL="http://www.CostaDelPoker.com"]CostaDelPoker.com[/URL], Pokerstars.com, the Prima Network and Mansion - I averaged out about 6000 hands, and used data from pokeroffice to independantly check my figures. ALSO - [B]The above figures are based on 35% of hands NOT reaching the flop[/B] therefore not accrueing VIP points, [B]and a standard "see flop" rate of 20%[/B]
 
Anyway - as you can see it is bloody hard getting VIP points at a decent rate until your playing AT LEAST .25/.50 (ideally 1/2).
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[B]regarding tournament only players [/B][I](or at least if you primarily play on tournaments, and if you do play cash its only the micro-limits)[/I] [U]I am more than happy making exceptions, and allowing entry to TeamCDP events providing the user in question has played "quite a few" tournies[/U] (over a reasonable period of time.)
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In any case, the thinking behind the "teamCDP" concept and the reasoning to put the entry level [U]so high[/U] is:
 
1) I want to give away bloody good bonuses - ie. full wsop packages for next year to the tournament winners
 
2) I dont intend it to be a "headline grabbing" advertising excercise thatll be announced everywhere- it is genuinly as a "thank you" for the players that are dedicated to [I]C.D.P, and I want to generate as much of a sense of community as possible.[/I]
 
3) I dont want there to be 5000 players qualified therefore making it a crapshoot - the tournament structure will be long (5000 chips, 15 minute blinds etc.) and any more than 1000 players I think would increase the variance too much. I would rather have 200 Great players going for it than 10,000 newbies!
 
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If anyones got anything to add or any suggestions, feel free!
 
Anyway - Id better go, got a questionaire to write!!!
 
thanks,
Martin.
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