I run bad after winning on PokerStars

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I don't know why everytime after I win some money on poker stars , my cards seems like are controlled in some way .
Example , I won 3d place in a tournament and then boom .4 times in 10 minutes in 3 different tournaments pocket aces loose and kick me out . And it's not the first time this happens to me .
Is it only me or this is happening to you guys
 
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PokerStars charges you for the tournament from the start of the tournament so they can't charge you more, or do you think PokerStars is playing against you and giving the win to someone else??? Well, what's the point? Why should they do it?
 
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i think pokerstars don't care who wins or loses as they earn from commissions
 
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Poker is a game with a lot of variance, and the more, you play, the more crazy things you will experience. Sometimes your aces get cracked 4 times in a row, and other times you cash in 15 out of 16 Fifty50 SnGs in a session, like it happened to me recently. But in the long run the only thing, which matter, is to make solid decisions. If you do that, you are likely to be a long term winner. If on the other hand you get caught up in focusing on distractions like worrying about the RNG, you are likely to become a long term loser. Best of luck with your game.
 
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Well what did you expect mate? you're gambling.
exactly this. what did you expect op? if you are playing this game be prepared for everything. and also read what fundiver was writing. its a very good post once again by him.
 
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Good evening.It is just part of the game.You shouldn´t be worried about that.Sometimes you will have great sessions and other days you will have to deal with some failures.Just be patient and always try to play your A game.Good luck next time.
 
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I may be the fish here but flips feel way smoother in low , mid stakes compared to the micros(all poker rooms) BUT this may happens because people in bigger buy ins won't call you pre with hands like 52o for example , so this factor may skyrocket the variance?!?!
 
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It does seem to be very, very hard to cash in Pokerstars in MTTs. I am big favourite very often and get serious bad beats there. I cash far far more often in 888.
 
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I don't know why everytime after I win some money on poker stars , my cards seems like are controlled in some way .
Example , I won 3d place in a tournament and then boom .4 times in 10 minutes in 3 different tournaments pocket aces loose and kick me out . And it's not the first time this happens to me .
Is it only me or this is happening to you guys
I'm always reading here about players complaining, that they got bad beats, that the poker room is cheating, that they can't win. But I did some research on my tournament histories and saw that against you I played 143 hands on pokerstars, and your Vpip is 20.4% and your Pfr is 9.9%, in my opinion it's not very balanced despite the hand samples be small.
So, in my opinion, you could be calling to hit or limping in some hands, I would try to adjust my game a little more.
I want to make it clear here that I am not the owner of the truth or a better player than you, just the opinion of those who want to help.;)(y)
 
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A pair of aces, the best pair and that's it. What about other combinations? There are no such feelings.
 
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Its the poker gnomes, they do it to me all the time
 
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I play poker at pokerstars and I think everything is transparent here
 
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When you are short stack??? I really dont know....
 
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The bullets aren't a winner till Showdown, It is what you do with them pre-flop and post-flop that matters.
On the flop or turn they can go from a home run to bluff catcher in a flash.
 
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I played a successful series at the weekend in a spin of 2 hours, I won in a good plus, decided to get some air, sat down again a few hours later and lost 10 games in a row, this happens, but I don't think they control or cheat some, just time intervals - there are successful and not very
 
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yep, but it depends om how you play, you play the aces.
 
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I don't know why everytime after I win some money on poker stars , my cards seems like are controlled in some way .
Example , I won 3d place in a tournament and then boom .4 times in 10 minutes in 3 different tournaments pocket aces loose and kick me out . And it's not the first time this happens to me .
Is it only me or this is happening to you guys
don't worry about anything, it's just variance), there is another common theory - if you made a cash out, then after that you start losing coin flips))) all this is, of course, complete nonsense;)
 
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Sometimes I'm sad to lose some hands that were almost guaranteed victory, but it's part while someone has the slightest chance to win, they can win
 
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Poker Stars, the biggest poker site in the world, has far much more to lose than gain from cheating. Each country they operate in, will have regulations that they will have to adhere to.

Instead of focusing your energy from bad beats & blaming the site. Use it to study, get better.
 
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Poker stars does not care who wins or loses. Why losing that many times is a lot and not fun it happens. My bigest loseing streek ever with aces was all in 6 times in a row over a 4 day span. It was at the Mohegan sun casino. Was the dealer cheating? Nope, juts unlucky.
 
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I don't know why everytime after I win some money on poker stars , my cards seems like are controlled in some way .
Example , I won 3d place in a tournament and then boom .4 times in 10 minutes in 3 different tournaments pocket aces loose and kick me out . And it's not the first time this happens to me .
Is it only me or this is happening to you guys
all games at pokerstars are fair and without publicity don't think like that anymore, you just got unlucky with a draw hand of aces and next time you'll be lucky be better than that and play how you play and there will be victories
 
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Instead of focusing your energy from bad beats & blaming the site. Use it to study, get better.
That is a really good advice. According to sharkscope OP has been playing on PokerStars for 10 years. During that period he has played 17.724 tournaments for an average buyin of around 10$ and paid around 13.000$ in rake. And with such a big investment in time and money, why not also invest some time and energy in studying and getting better? And also invest in some software. A lifetime license for PT4 is only around 100$, which is less than 1% of the rake, OP has paid to PokerStars.
 
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It does seem to be very, very hard to cash in Pokerstars in MTTs. I am big favourite very often and get serious bad beats there. I cash far far more often in 888.
This is absolute trollop. As in BS. As in, the brown stuff.
It is *possible* that players suck on 888 compared to Stars, but I call bullshit.
It is hard to cash in poker in general because people got a LOT better over the course of COVID.
At the beginning of Covid, I was raking it in. Now, my profits have dropped down and I'm funding my bankroll from a bank account, which TOTALLY sucks.
But this is not a PokerStars issue.
Losing (over th mediumk to long term) is ALWAYS your own fault.
Sure, there is variance. But variance hits the short term only, and doesn't really factor in over the long term unless you have a losing strategy.

Get a HUD. Record ALL your hands.
Review your data.
You will quickly find that you are losing because of predictable leaks and mistakes rather than bad beats.

Part of the reason we remember these hands more is that MOST of the hands we win, never even get to showdown. Our opponents KNOW they have lost before the river and usually bail out, pull their ripcord and parachute to the ground safely.

But when hands go to the river, there is clearly a smaller gap in the hands, or a better chance at hitting.

So which hands tend to call the flop and try to see the river?
You guessed it... Made hands, premiums and suited connectors.

Which ones are most likely to result in a monster hand/bad beat?
You guessed it... Made hands, premiums and suited connectors.

Made hands start out good, and generally get worse as the run out occurs.
Premiums start out decent and can improve.
Suited connectors are just trying to hit that monster.

Playing in the micros, people quite commonly chase (and make) flushes and straights.
In the freerolls, this is where the big pots are won.
That's why you see so many people limping into pots from early positions.
That's also why I 3-bet a tonne in freerolls.

All this said, I AM convinced that Stars is programmed for action. I don't believe they have achieved the Nirvana of true randomness.
But I don't think I LOSE because of this. Generally, I lose because of bad decisions and poor discipline. I can play for several hours with discipline and then some turd gets on the table, disrespecting everyone, playing crap, and then you want to teach them a lesson, only to discover you were trailing and didn't even realise it.

I would like to see shuffle & deal algortihms and RNGs made publicly available/open source. Until then, I won't truly trust it.
There are certainly some sketchy things going on. (Which I will post about in a separate post).

Cheers,
JT
 
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