Michael Paler
Legend
Silver Level
Many of you might be aware of the kerfuffle that occurred here this week. Someone (who shall remain nameless) who wanted to win the $100.00 CC was giving away for guessing the day and time we hit 100,000 members created xx number of false "new" signups. Distasteful, and thank goodness Dakota-xx was on the job to stop it.
While talking about this "amazing what some people will do for a few bucks" issue with some non-online poker friends, naturally the subject of online poker being rigged came up. After I destroyed the argument that the sites would do this for some reason, two things were brought up that I could not refute. One is, I think, unavoidable. The other one got me to thinking really hard. Here they are:
1.) It is IMPOSSIBLE to stop collusion online.
I do not worry about this too much. I think the sites monitor the games enough to catch this. If not, the only way to do so is for the players to get suspicious and report it. This would only make sense at a cash table.
Yet you could just skip the collusion player to player part and rely on just knowing what xx number out of 9 players were dealt post flop. Ugly, could happen, I hope not. I see no way that this could be detected or stopped.
But this next one sent a shiver down my spine. Someone please tell me this cannot happen. Please tell me it could be detected by the site. I do not know how:
2) Windows remote desktop.
You have 5 friends sign up onto a site with their computer at their home on their IP address. Then one guy at one location can access all 5 computers remotely.
To the site it looks like 5 different IP addresses...5 diffrent people....thats because it is! You are just simply accessing and controlling the computers from your IP address. Those "away" computers are accessing the web thru the local IP address. But it could be one guy now playing as 5 different people. This could make an online MTT a win-win possibility for a good enough player. It would eliminate the entire multi user problem by using 5 separate and distinct IP addresses.
And chip dumping after is not really needed. Just cut those other guys whose computers you are using in and have them make the withdrawals under their own names and accounts. Leave them enough for the taxes and a little profit and baad-a-bing baad-a-boop...you are all "in the money". If you get any questions, you have 5 people saying "yes. I played the game."
I spend a lot of time defending online poker. So please, CC members, please tell me I am wrong, that the sites can detect this type of "multi using" somehow. Tell me some cheat using windows remote desktop or some other similar program could not do this!
While talking about this "amazing what some people will do for a few bucks" issue with some non-online poker friends, naturally the subject of online poker being rigged came up. After I destroyed the argument that the sites would do this for some reason, two things were brought up that I could not refute. One is, I think, unavoidable. The other one got me to thinking really hard. Here they are:
1.) It is IMPOSSIBLE to stop collusion online.
I do not worry about this too much. I think the sites monitor the games enough to catch this. If not, the only way to do so is for the players to get suspicious and report it. This would only make sense at a cash table.
Yet you could just skip the collusion player to player part and rely on just knowing what xx number out of 9 players were dealt post flop. Ugly, could happen, I hope not. I see no way that this could be detected or stopped.
But this next one sent a shiver down my spine. Someone please tell me this cannot happen. Please tell me it could be detected by the site. I do not know how:
2) Windows remote desktop.
You have 5 friends sign up onto a site with their computer at their home on their IP address. Then one guy at one location can access all 5 computers remotely.
To the site it looks like 5 different IP addresses...5 diffrent people....thats because it is! You are just simply accessing and controlling the computers from your IP address. Those "away" computers are accessing the web thru the local IP address. But it could be one guy now playing as 5 different people. This could make an online MTT a win-win possibility for a good enough player. It would eliminate the entire multi user problem by using 5 separate and distinct IP addresses.
And chip dumping after is not really needed. Just cut those other guys whose computers you are using in and have them make the withdrawals under their own names and accounts. Leave them enough for the taxes and a little profit and baad-a-bing baad-a-boop...you are all "in the money". If you get any questions, you have 5 people saying "yes. I played the game."
I spend a lot of time defending online poker. So please, CC members, please tell me I am wrong, that the sites can detect this type of "multi using" somehow. Tell me some cheat using windows remote desktop or some other similar program could not do this!