questions about pokertracker stats..

[koadyawn]

Hey cardschat members..

Still pretty much new to pokertracker..Well I read the def. of all the stats but still dont quite understand the full def. and how to put it into practice.

This is pretty much all I know but correct me if I am wrong..

Vp$p - vol. put money into pot..

agr - agresion factor..how aggresive you are? (whats a generally good number?)

Ats - means wen someone attempts a raise wen action is on them to steal the blinds

fts - folded your small blind to an attempted stealer

fbb - folded big blind to attempted stealer


bb/100 = really not sure what it means and if a need it? but would really like to know..



Those are most of the stats I exp. with... What are some good numbers for those stats? Where should my % be on FTS and FBB and ATS..and what should my aggresion factor be?

I know there is probably no right answer but what are some good stats that you would see?

 

[dsvw56]

Going to assume you're playing No-Limit

VP$IP - voluntarily put money in the pot. Indicates how tight/loose a player is. Depending on a lot of factors (such as FR vs. 6-max, your skill level, opposing players) should generally be between 9% and 25%.

PFR - Pre-Flop Raise %. How aggressive a player is pre-flop. Should be 2/3-3/4 of your VP$IP

AF - Aggression factor. How aggressive a player is after the flop. Can be calculated by individual streets, or collectively. Calculated as (Bets+Raises)/Calls. It's a ratio on how often you take an agressive action vs. calling. Obviously it can vary a lot depending on table conditions, but generally should fall between 1.5 and 4.

Ats - Attempt to steal. How often you raise when folded to in late position. Depends heavily on the players to your left, but should never be less than 20% and ideally 30%-45%

FBB - Fold BB to Steal. How often you fold your BB to a Steal. Should be around 80%ish.

FSB - Fold SB to Steal. How often you fold your SB to a steal. Should be in the high 80's, around 89%.

W$WSF - Won $ When Saw Flop. How often you win the pot when you see the flop. Depends heavily on table conditions but 40% is a good number to shoot for.

WTSD - Went to Showdown. How often you go to showdown when seeing the flop. Should be between 20-25%.

W$@SD - Won $ at Showdown. How often you win the pot when you go to showdown. Should be above 50%

BB/100 - Big Bets won per 100 hands played. A big bet is 2 big blinds. Anything positive is good, but a good win rate is about 3BB/100

 

[koadyawn]

Thanks alot for the info,

Also I was wandering if you knew how to pick out good tables?

I herd that the higher plyrs/flop % the better. but not sure why and would like to know the concept of it just so I can understand better..

 

[koadyawn]

Also is holdem manager still legal in poker sites?? or am i better off using pokertracker..

and also...what stats show me which players like to chase their draws alot or just like to call bets..and are there stats to tell if there is a fish??

 

[BelgoSuisse]

I herd that the higher plyrs/flop % the better. but not sure why and would like to know the concept of it just so I can understand better..

The reason is that the typical fish plays too loose and therefore a table with fishes has higher plyrs/flop % than normal.

But some fishes play much too tight too. Typically short stacked multi-tablers do. and you can profit from those by stealing their blinds.

Actually the ideal table is a table where you have deep stack loose players to your right and extremely tight players to your left. that way you can steal from the tight fishes and always play the loose fishes in position.

 

[koadyawn]

Thanks for the info!

And lastly..I am not sure what 3 betting exactly is..

is it during preflop or post flop? whenyou first opens a bet, another player raises, and then you re-raise him?

or is it when you open a bet, player raises, you re-raise, and then he re-raises your re-raise?

 

[dsvw56]

A 3-bet is exactly what the name implies, the 3rd bet to go in the pot. It can be either pre-flop or post flop, but tracking software only displays pre-flop 3-betting stats.

Ex 1 Pre-flop
UTG Raises
Button Re-Raises (This is a 3-bet, since the blinds count as the first bet)

Ex 2 Post-Flop
UTG Bets
Button Raises
UTG Re-raises (3-bet)

 

[koadyawn]

Grreat hey thanks makes much more sense now..

okay feels like im asking so many dumb question but i now have another one..

i know this seems more like a common sense thing but when someone says their a 2-1 favorite to win does that mean that they are more than %50 to win?

 

[koadyawn]

oh and what position is hero ?

 

[Steveg1976]

2/1 means you will on average win 2 out of 3 times 66%

hero is you, typically in a hand analysis, so hero is whatever position you were in in the hand, if I am understanding your question correctly.

 

[koadyawn]

Thanks! make sense..

so when someone is a 3-1 favorite that means they will win 3 out of every 4 times..

 

[Steveg1976]

Those are the odds yes, but you can still lose 3 times in row as a 3/1 favorite, which is referred to as variance.

 

[Michelle5000]

Thanks for the info!

And lastly..I am not sure what 3 betting exactly is..

is it during preflop or post flop? whenyou first opens a bet, another player raises, and then you re-raise him?

or is it when you open a bet, player raises, you re-raise, and then he re-raises your re-raise?

Be careful with 3betting%.. Where if a player has a high fold to 3bet% it might be down to limp folds i.e if a player is 40/1 and has a 95% fold to 3bet% it might look like a spot to 3bet him. Where it clearly isnt unless you have the rockets.

Like this guy i'm new to the HUD. What betting % is a sign of bluffing..at a guess i'd say plus 30%. But i know it depends on Vpip range aswell. Just i had a hand vs a player before with TT. He was cold calling at 20% with Vpip 35/5/7 and the flop was 449. I bet flop, he calls and then fires 3/4 pot when a king hits the turn. He had a 60% betting pot % turn. Obviously i was getting over 2-1 on the call..but he also had a high river bet %. So i was going to have to call another bet.

Would it have been profitable for me to call here? I am find the turn hard to intreprete..he calls 60% of cbs and also plays the T/R aggressively. Can you call it down for a good EV with 2nd pair etc if he is loose PF. Usually i dump it and wait for a better spot..which is one of many leaks.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Like this guy i'm new to the HUD. What betting % is a sign of bluffing..at a guess i'd say plus 30%. But i know it depends on Vpip range aswell. Just i had a hand vs a player before with TT. He was cold calling at 20% with Vpip 35/5/7 and the flop was 449. I bet flop, he calls and then fires 3/4 pot when a king hits the turn. He had a 60% betting pot % turn. Obviously i was getting over 2-1 on the call..but he also had a high river bet %. So i was going to have to call another bet.

How many hands do you have on this guy? You would need a huge sample for turn and river bet percentages to mean something.

The HUD should allow you to look at the actual number of event each of the individual stats are based on. If the 60% turn betting is based on 5 hands, then it's irrelevant.

 

[Michelle5000]

ye i can get the actual number of events on the main HUD..but not the default. I'm assuming its a click of a button so i can see them on the default also. I'll look into this later.

Sorry..forget that hand. I should post some hands in the right area =) that hand just stuck out from my session..that was all.

Cheers.