Pot-Limit Omaha QUIZ: Choose your hand

[CRStals]

To go along with our month long series diving deeper into Pot Limit Omaha, we thought we would throw the membership some questions. So, let's take a look at hand potentials in PLO. You have the choice to hold one of these two hands (hole cards):

Hand 1:

Hand 2:

The flop comes:

Would you choose Hand 1 or Hand 2? Explain your choice.

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[Gutshot Gus]

Hand 1 is basically dead on arrival. Outs are to make the full house.
No way for a straight or flush.

Hand 2 has a wider variety of outs. for a flush. for a straight

With just the primary outs listed you have a much better chance of a made hand with hand two. For my money give me hand 2.

 

[maronza1]

Hand 1 is strong here, and would beat anything except a 7.
Hand 2 has a lot of potential to beat hand 1 as it has a lot of draws, however if it does not improve to the river it will be useless.

I would go with Hand 1 because as it stands on the flop it is the strongest hand here, and it has 19 outs AAKKQQQ555444333222 than hand 2 which has 18 outs

 

[najisami]

and it has 19 outs AAKKQQQ555444333222 than hand 2 which has 18 outs

Hey Ron, hand 1 does not have that many outs. The flop is already there and there are only 2 cards left to come, so the 5s, 4s, 3s and 2s cannot count as outs.
Unless I'm having one of those "dumb" times, in which case, I apologize in advance.

 

[Flyer35]

This is kind of a trick question. It ALL depends on betting. Hand 1 is usually going to try to get everything in the middle pre-flop because he doesn't want more than one opponent. Hand 2 is strong BUT may not choose to stay in long enough to see a flop, depending on bet sizing, interest of others and position..

If/once the flop comes, again it depends on betting and stack sizes. Hand 1 has the made hand but limited outs. Hand 2 has a lot of outs. Personally I prefer hand 2 but I've seen plenty of OESD/Flush draws never improve. Again, Hand 1 is going to try to get the rest of the money in the middle because he has no idea how strong hand 2 hit the flop.

 

[Gutshot Gus]

This is kind of a trick question. It ALL depends on betting. Hand 1 is usually going to try to get everything in the middle pre-flop because he doesn't want more than one opponent. Hand 2 is strong BUT may not choose to stay in long enough to see a flop, depending on bet sizing, interest of others and position..

If/once the flop comes, again it depends on betting and stack sizes. Hand 1 has the made hand but limited outs. Hand 2 has a lot of outs. Personally I prefer hand 2 but I've seen plenty of OESD/Flush draws never improve. Again, Hand 1 is going to try to get the rest of the money in the middle because he has no idea how strong hand 2 hit the flop.

Hand 1 is almost like having AK in Hold'em and missing the flop. It looked good to start with and after the flop it is circling the drain. With what Hand 2 got on the flop I fear that Hand 1 is going to be very disappointed if he tries to bet and scare off Hand 2. If I had Hand 2 vs Hand 1 and he made a pot sized continuation bet, I would go over the top of him and put him in for all of the chips that I could get in the pot. If I lose, so be it. Your goal is to get your money in with the best hand and if you are Hand 2 this is showtime.

 

[MK_]

I believe it's Omaha not Omaha hilo.... so no low,

it's also pot limit so no getting everything in pre,

which is way too close to do here anyway,

hand 1 is currently ahead, hand 2 has the draws,

would def want to see a turn here if I was hand 2,

really much easier to play hand 2 here cuz the

decisions are much easier......... hand 2 has to

hit those outs, hand 1 does not so the question

is how far am I chasing those outs...,

that depends on a lot of variables...

but since I wouldn't know their hand

I'm liking that flop a whole lot,

so my answer is "it depends"👍

 

[maronza1]

Hey Ron, hand 1 does not have that many outs. The flop is already there and there are only 2 cards left to come, so the 5s, 4s, 3s and 2s cannot count as outs.
Unless I'm having one of those "dumb" times, in which case, I apologize in advance.

The cards i listed are the ones which hand 1 needs, even if we do not count them as outs. For example, if the turn n river happens to be any of those cards that means hand 1 has won. The cards i have listed does not include a spade because it will give hand 2 an advantage.

The ultimate outs for hand one are A, A, K, K but even if 3 n 4 not of spade comes that will mean hand 2 has failed to improve.

 

[maronza1]

I believe it's Omaha not Omaha hilo.... so no low,

it's also pot limit so no getting everything in pre,

which is way too close to do here anyway,

hand 1 is currently ahead, hand 2 has the draws,

would def want to see a turn here if I was hand 2,

really much easier to play hand 2 here cuz the

decisions are much easier......... hand 2 has to

hit those outs, hand 1 does not so the question

is how far am I chasing those outs...,

that depends on a lot of variables...

but since I wouldn't know their hand

I'm liking that flop a whole lot,

so my answer is "it depends"👍

There is no it depends on the options, come on...

Hand 1 is strong here, but has limited outs.
There are many times i have chaced those draws and end up beaten. There are also situation of amiracle river card for hand 1 after hand 2 has hit a straight or flush on the turn.

 

[maronza1]

AA79 vs AJT6

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Here is one of the dissapointing hands for me, i hit a set on the flop and bet small as i did not want to chase the opponent away, but thats where i got it wrong as @G0930 hand improved to flush.

 

[MK_]

AA79 vs AJT6

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Here is one of the dissapointing hands for me, i hit a set on the flop and bet small as i did not want to chase the opponent away, but thats where i got it wrong as @G0930 hand improved to flush.

I don't ever think I've seen anyone chase that opponent away😎.....,

my answer is generally going to be "it depends", not a fan of hard and fast rules...

also not a fan of telling potential opponents specifically what I would do with an exact hand 😏👍

 

[miniadan]

Hand 1 is too strong pré-flop, but in a flop like this, hand 2 is too favorite

 

[RhinoRyan89]

I would choose hand 2

Even tho its technically behind on the flop.

With all the draw % wise it's ahead.

 

[dzsire]

Considering the number of outs, I would choose the Hand 2, but it is certain that I would also make an attempt with Hand 1 too.
Of course if there is a chance to watch turn and then river. The straight, the flush, or straight flush has a higher chance of getting an A, K, or 7. Although in online poker, these are that usually fall down in turn/river...

 

[nelomec]

To go along with our month long series diving deeper into Pot Limit Omaha, we thought we would throw the membership some questions. So, let's take a look at hand potentials in PLO. You have the choice to hold one of these two hands (hole cards):

Hand 1:
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Hand 2:
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The flop comes:
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Would you choose Hand 1 or Hand 2? Explain your choice.

Read more about Pot-Limit Omaha in our PLO Learning Series: CardsChat Learning Poker Thread Series Index

definitely hand 2, because it has more chances of being completed, more outs

 

[Station_Master]

Hand 2, way more straight and flush outs and I think better overall.
Hand 1 is not too shabby though with 6 boat outs that could potentially cooler a flush or straight

 

[mattiebumpo]

I think Hand 2 due to the flush, straight, and set possibilities. Some friends have suggested that "wraparound" (cards in sequence list 789T) hands are strong in Omaha.