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Message: [QUOTE="feitr, post: 1060642, member: 34106"] Ok here is some advice. Unfortunately almost everything you said there was the opposite of what you should be thinking. Initial 3B - you already say that you know that if he calls your 3B you are crushed by his range AQ+, JJ+ or whatever). So by 3Bing all you are doing is putting alot of money in the pot with a heavily dominated hand vs villain's range. Hopefully it should be obvious to you that this is really really bad. If you want to play AJ vs somebody like this you can only flat call, because AJ fairs much better vs villain's opening range than vs his 3B OOP flatting range (which we know crushes you). So you say you 3B to "see where he is at" (and fwiw THIS IS THE MOST IDIOTIC POKER CLICHE EVER CREATED) so why are you doing it with a goodish, but not great hand? You are better off reraising him with 78s, because you aren't ever going to be in a kicker dominated position and it is alot easier to know how good your hand is postflop. The value in 3Bing here is that we think we can get villain to fold enough of his range to make the 3B profitable, not that we do it with a hand that is crushed by villain's 3B calling range but is going to be hard to get away from if we flop a pair. Now mistake number 2. Don't bet the flop. You shouldn't even be in this situation but since we know villain is never going to have AT or worse here and isn't going to call more than one street with an underpair (presumably), betting the flop accomplishes nothing. So mistake number 3. You get reraised, know villain almost certainly has AQ/AK and is not folding, but yet you shove. Good rule of thumb is too assume that nobody is ever in a million billion trillion years going to fold TPTK in a 3B pot especially not when TP is a pair of aces. Trying to make somebody fold TPTK in a 3B pot is probably the most -EV thing you could possibly do. You can't ever represent 66 here, it ilooks more like a spaz shove because you don't want to fold TP, IMO. Almost nobody reraises 66 preflop, and nobody would ever give you credit for a set in a 3B pot (think about it - 3 combos of a hand that is almost certainly not in your preflop range). Your hand looks exactly like what it is (AQ or AJ). Hopefully that clears some things up about the thought processes you should be using. It is good you are thinking through your mistakes tho and trying to not repeat them. [/QUOTE]

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