Learning Tournament strategy (Best resources)

[Snakebite]

Hi,
What are the best recources to learn MTT strategy? I am strictly a cash game player, and now I am looking to start my tournament training. I am asking for recmmendations on where to start. I have Dan Harringtons 3 part tournament series however other players are telling me that the info is good but out of date. I am also considering Jonathon Littles ProfessionalTournament secrets but this may be a little too advanced for a beginng tournament player, maybe his Mastering Small Stakes may be a good place to start?

I Appreciate any and all replies
Thanks

 

[Martin]

Hi, welcome to CardsChat.

Our CardsChat 30 Day Poker Training Course is a great place to start.

Good luck!

 

[Luvepoker]

Hi,
What are the best recources to learn MTT strategy? I am strictly a cash game player, and now I am looking to start my tournament training. I am asking for recmmendations on where to start. I have Dan Harringtons 3 part tournament series however other players are telling me that the info is good but out of date. I am also considering Jonathon Littles ProfessionalTournament secrets but this may be a little too advanced for a beginng tournament player, maybe his Mastering Small Stakes may be a good place to start?

I Appreciate any and all replies
Thanks

Dont use harrington on holdem books. They were great in there time but Way to dated to be very useful in today game. Check out the cardschat course Martin suggested. Really useful tool to start with. If your worried about Jonathan littles book being to advanced look up all his stuff. He does have books more for beginners as well.

Welcome to cardChat

 

[hardongear]

I'd recommend Jonathan Little he has books, course and stuff for beginners and all level of players. And Little comes a crossed as a decent, easy going and good guy on at the table and away from the table. At least in my opinion. Link below.

I'd also recommend Phil Galfond's site Runitonce poker. Again another good decent guy on and away from the table. Link Below.

PokerCoaching.com

Learn to play like a poker professional. Get coached by elite pros. Learn all the poker fundamentals. Practice with simulated poker hands. Make the right decisions in game. Have confidence when you play.

pokercoaching.com

From The Ground Up - MTT | Run It Once | Tournament Poker Course

Train with the best at the world's leading poker strategy community.

www.runitonce.com

Best of luck.

PS...Both are well respected by the majority of their peers as well.

Cheers!!!

 

[dannystanks]

If you can afford it and have lots of time to study then you can join a poker training site. Now is a good time to check it out because everyone is having discounts right now. Faraz Jaka coaching is doing a free 7 day right now. Good luck!

 

[eetenor]

If you go to the discord servers of J Little or Faraz or BBZ etc you will learn enough as a begginning MTT player to understand the dynamics of MTT's GTOWIZARD has MTT preflop post flop and ICm strategies---All of the above you can do for free to start except ICM gtowiz

 

[Snakebite]

Thank you I appreciate all of the replies. I started the 30 day course. I am already a member of the pokerforge, and I am doing well in the 25, and 50nl. However they are strictly online cash, and do not offer any MTT training. I'm also considering RedChip. Pricing is very reasonable at $20 a month, and they have an MTT course. Books seem to become outdated rather quickly but J. littles seem to be a good choice, and continue to be relevent. I will probably get his most current publication.

Thanks again. You guys offered me many options

 

[WrongUsername]

best resource is to play by yourself the more you play the more you learn

 

[Flyer35]

Really, at my level "out of date" isn't a relevant deciding factor. If it was written by a successful pro it's worth my time.

 

[Jean-Guy]

Take this for one who strictly play cash games.
I am impressed by your serious approach to the game. Your willingness to learn and study. This is not a given. I will recommend these two books. Both by Mr. Little:
Strategies For Beating Small Stakes Tournaments.
Secrets of professional Poker Tournaments.
What excells mr. Little is that he is very hands on. Hundreds of actual pots he actually has played. And he is good to explain why he does so and so in the concrete examples at any stage of a tournament.
“Action” Dan Harrington’s three volume set was when it came out already problematic as Arnold Snyder “prooved” in a work from 2007. The main problem is that Harrington was thinking in terms of deepstack tournaments.
You should also know that it easier to transform from cash to MTT than the other way around. In cash games GTO is much more important and it is more cagey. Cash games can seen more boring - the very most hands do not come to showdown. Plus 100 hands pro hour. MTT is much more thrilling. As a common rule:
MTT is 80% luck and 20% skills.
Cash games are 80% skills and 20% luck. You must be on the lucky side of a coinflip 4-5 times in order to hit the podium in a big tour. What is the downside of MTT:
1. It is time consuming. Could last more than 8 hours to to get to the endgame where the big bucks are to be won.
2. There is no such thing as a player who finishes ITM more than 20% of the times.
Best of wishes for you crushing MTT.
PS: If you want to calculate the FTA - Final Table Arrival - I can recommend “The Poker Tournament Formula” by Arnold Snyder. Snyder means cheating in Danish, but Snyder’s calculations can be taken for face value😊

 

[thetick33]

20 years here still best course i use to look over holes in game is cc course your using....i go back to it over and over then go over the hand rankings starters etc...then i look at my plays every month on games played see what i did think about what could change etc...i will say ive found if can get a group of different players to go over hands for a bit you might learn the most since everyone plays a little different in poker imo so their ideals will lead you to try new things....always being able to critique your style your play I think is most important aspect of improvement in poker

 

[Snakebite]

Take this for one who strictly play cash games.
I am impressed by your serious approach to the game. Your willingness to learn and study. This is not a given. I will recommend these two books. Both by Mr. Little:
Strategies For Beating Small Stakes Tournaments.
Secrets of professional Poker Tournaments.
What excells mr. Little is that he is very hands on. Hundreds of actual pots he actually has played. And he is good to explain why he does so and so in the concrete examples at any stage of a tournament.
“Action” Dan Harrington’s three volume set was when it came out already problematic as Arnold Snyder “prooved” in a work from 2007. The main problem is that Harrington was thinking in terms of deepstack tournaments.
You should also know that it easier to transform from cash to MTT than the other way around. In cash games GTO is much more important and it is more cagey. Cash games can seen more boring - the very most hands do not come to showdown. Plus 100 hands pro hour. MTT is much more thrilling. As a common rule:
MTT is 80% luck and 20% skills.
Cash games are 80% skills and 20% luck. You must be on the lucky side of a coinflip 4-5 times in order to hit the podium in a big tour. What is the downside of MTT:
1. It is time consuming. Could last more than 8 hours to to get to the endgame where the big bucks are to be won.
2. There is no such thing as a player who finishes ITM more than 20% of the times.
Best of wishes for you crushing MTT.
PS: If you want to calculate the FTA - Final Table Arrival - I can recommend “The Poker Tournament Formula” by Arnold Snyder. Snyder means cheating in Danish, but Snyder’s calculations can be taken for face value😊

Thank you for the reply,
I will be getting the J little's books you reccomend. I also have Arnold Snyder's book that you mentioned as well, and I thought his formulas were very interesting as well.
just as a side note I lived in Las Vegas in the early 90's and counted cards befrore I became a poker player, and Arnold was my go to guy. He is widely known for his work with counting systems, and developed the 2 level Zen, and the red 7 ubalanced counting system. His book "Blackbelt in blackjack" is fantastic. He was also a pretty cool guy. I met him at a function at the Gamblers Book Club in Vegas, and I remember asking him about using an Ace side count along with his unbalanced red 7 for the 6 deck shoe. He pulled me aside and spent some of his time explaining it to me, and how to adapt to it until I understood it. He was a really great guy, and an advocate for the rights of the professional gambler. He went too young.



Ju

 

[Jean-Guy]

Thank you I appreciate all of the replies. I started the 30 day course. I am already a member of the pokerforge, and I am doing well in the 25, and 50nl. However they are strictly online cash, and do not offer any MTT training. I'm also considering RedChip. Pricing is very reasonable at $20 a month, and they have an MTT course. Books seem to become outdated rather quickly but J. littles seem to be a good choice, and continue to be relevent. I will probably get his most current publication.

Thanks again. You guys offered me many options

Thank you for the reply,
I will be getting the J little's books you reccomend. I also have Arnold Snyder's book that you mentioned as well, and I thought his formulas were very interesting as well.
just as a side note I lived in Las Vegas in the early 90's and counted cards befrore I became a poker player, and Arnold was my go to guy. He is widely known for his work with counting systems, and developed the 2 level Zen, and the red 7 ubalanced counting system. His book "Blackbelt in Blackjack" is fantastic. He was also a pretty cool guy. I met him at a function at the Gamblers Book Club in Vegas, and I remember asking him about using an Ace side count along with his unbalanced red 7 for the 6 deck shoe. He pulled me aside and spent some of his time explaining it to me, and how to adapt to it until I understood it. He was a really great guy, and an advocate for the rights of the professional gambler. He went too young.



Ju

Thanks for sharing your personal experience with Arnold Snyder. Very interesting.

 

[Grid3004]

Learning tournament strategy can be a bit overwhelming at first, but there are some fantastic resources that can help you develop your skills and improve your results. Here are a few I recommend:

1. Books:
   • "Harrington on Hold'em" by Dan Harrington: A classic for understanding tournament play, especially for beginners.
   • "The Raiser's Edge" by Elky and co-authors: Great for more advanced strategies, including aggression and ICM concepts.
2. Online Training Sites:
   • Platforms like Upswing Poker, PokerCoaching.com, or Run It Once have dedicated courses for tournament players. They break down concepts like pre-flop ranges, stack size adjustments, and bubble play.
   • Some even include hand reviews and live play videos, which are incredibly helpful for practical learning.
3. YouTube Channels:
   • Channels like Raise Your Edge or PokerStars School often provide free tournament tips and walkthroughs.
4. Forums and Communities:
   • Places like CardsChat and TwoPlusTwo have tons of threads where experienced players share their insights. You can even post your hands for feedback.
5. Practice:
   • Freerolls and micro-stakes tournaments are excellent for gaining real-world experience without risking too much of your bankroll.

What are your favorite resources for learning tournament strategy? I’d love to discover new tools or approaches that have worked for others

 

[Jean-Guy]

Harrington on Hold’em was already outdated when it was published.