Psyanide14
Legend
Silver Level
I’ve been very pissed with AA lately. I’ve now busted my last three FT with AA in ninth place. Everytime I’ve been up against Axo which gives me 90%+ to win. To lose three times in a row really sucks including once when I was 99.9% after flop came. There were only two cards in the deck he needed and he had to catch both and he got them (KsKc). It really makes you want to quit and I end up doing so for several months at a time because you think the sites have to be rigged against you. Maybe they configure their RNG to have AA cracked say 35% of the time instead of about 22% vs any two cards. You’d never be able to prove it and it would keep bad players playing longer as they would win more than they should normally. Just saying. I know a lot more hands get played online vs live but I watch a lot of live poker and rarely see this, which they would show as it would make more drama for their ratings. And I’m not just saying it happens to me, I see it happen vs other players in the tournaments I play as well as the twitch steamers I watch all the time. Variance doesn’t explain the amount you see of it.
Rant off.
Rant off.
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scubed
Visionary
Silver Level
Best tip is... If you are tilted, do not play if you don't have to! It is is mandatory to play just remember that you are not more or less lucky than other players. Embrace the variance and know that you'll maybe win next time!
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
First of all you need to ask yourself, why this even tilts you? Aces versus kings is the most classic cooler in poker, so its not even like, your opponent did anything wrong. If you had kings, and he had aces, all the chips would also have gone in, and then you would also put a bad beat on him one in five times. So why does this even matter? And would you rather be the guy with kings, who ran them into aces? Thats also pretty unlucky right? The point is, losing is part of poker. Someone has to lose every single hand, so why get upset about it?
Now to be honest all poker players hate losing. But if a hand like this upsets you for more than two seconds, this is something, you need to work on, if you want to succeed in poker. And other than thinking rationally about it, like I outlined above, the main thing is to fully embrace the fact, that poker is a long term game. It does not matter, that today your AK lost to KJ a few more times, than they should, because in the long run this really will level itself out. So all, you need to do to succeed, is getting your decisions right. As long as that was the case, losing is totally cool and fine.
Another tip, if you are new to poker, is to start with the formats, that have the least variance, which are cash games and single table SnGs. Losing a hand in these formats tend to not sting quite as much, since you just move on to the next hand or register for the next SnG. Whereas in MTTs it can be hours of work, that goes down the drain, and this requires a bit more mental stamina. Its also really best, if you can play 3-5 MTTs at the same time, so that the result of the entire session is not totally dependent on a single hand like this. And multitabling is something, which also need to be learned, and is not very good for beginners.
The alternative is to play in a truly recreational way. Play for fun. But then you really should not tilt, and it also makes no sense talking about "having to play later in the day". So first of all find out, why you are playing. And if its with some kind of goal of eventually making a bit of money out of poker, then understand the long term nature of the game, focus on improving your game and stop caring about short term variance and results.
Now to be honest all poker players hate losing. But if a hand like this upsets you for more than two seconds, this is something, you need to work on, if you want to succeed in poker. And other than thinking rationally about it, like I outlined above, the main thing is to fully embrace the fact, that poker is a long term game. It does not matter, that today your AK lost to KJ a few more times, than they should, because in the long run this really will level itself out. So all, you need to do to succeed, is getting your decisions right. As long as that was the case, losing is totally cool and fine.
Another tip, if you are new to poker, is to start with the formats, that have the least variance, which are cash games and single table SnGs. Losing a hand in these formats tend to not sting quite as much, since you just move on to the next hand or register for the next SnG. Whereas in MTTs it can be hours of work, that goes down the drain, and this requires a bit more mental stamina. Its also really best, if you can play 3-5 MTTs at the same time, so that the result of the entire session is not totally dependent on a single hand like this. And multitabling is something, which also need to be learned, and is not very good for beginners.
The alternative is to play in a truly recreational way. Play for fun. But then you really should not tilt, and it also makes no sense talking about "having to play later in the day". So first of all find out, why you are playing. And if its with some kind of goal of eventually making a bit of money out of poker, then understand the long term nature of the game, focus on improving your game and stop caring about short term variance and results.
blueskies
Legend
Loyaler
You shouldn't tilt in this situation. The expression "That's poker" gets overused so much but in this situation it's true. The other guy isn't gonna fold and he should get it all in as he did. If you get tilted on a hand like this you are gonna have a stroke because way worse BS happens in poker.
AA isn't invincible.
When you do have the right to tilt is when the mofo calls you with like J5 os and beats you. And yes, crap like that has happened to me a ton.
If you didn't limp or do something stupid like that, then that's just bad luck and you tag that mofo so you know that he's an idiot player for future reference and adjust play accordingly against him later on.
Phoenix Wright
Legend
Loyaler
+1 I like this answer. For the thread op, I also would like to bring up (although somewhat obvious), that even AA preflop is not a for sure thing. Against a random hand, AA is only 85% favorite or so - that means that 15% or so it will lose.
If Aces get cracked, then oh well, just happens to be one of those 15% cases. Assuming you played it well, then you'll be good in the long-term. Yeah, I know it doesn't take the short-term sting out of it always, but I don't get as upset when I know I can do everything "correct" and still lose some percentage of the time.
What I more get upset at myself with is when I know I'm responsible for making a bad play or though I could have gotten away from that hand etc. In the example of AA cracked, losing with AA wouldn't bother me a ton, but losing with AA because I limped into a multiway pot and never isolated would bother me because I know I could have played it better.
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MimiMLZ
Rock Star
Silver Level
Just tell to yourself that it is part of poker, stick this inside your brain and try to relativize there is always going to be bad beats in poker
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Gamer4455
Visionary
Bronze Level
On Thursday while playing cash, I had AA cracked twice. They were both beat by a throw away hand. But like I always say, I'm not going to tilt from the past hand. But I will do like some say and quit for awhile. Besides, it's good for any player to take a break. Sometimes, just a few hours is good, but it's even better to take a day or two. Yesterday, I wasn't feeling very good, and after I started playing, I just said it wasn't a good day to play and took the day off. GL to you all
Joe
99.98% Kiln dried
Bronze Level
Hi Pres7on,
If it makes you feel any better, I lost AIPF (short way to write All In PreFlop :wink: ) AA < AKo in a big WCOOP tournament when the flop decided to run out Q,J,10...
The mental exercise is to remind ourselves that we want to be in spots like AA v KK or AA v AK and in order to win them 80-90% of the time, we have to accept losing them 10-20% of the time.
When we have been in the AA v KK spot 1,000 times, we will have won much more than we've lost! :wink:
Experience erodes tilt, for some more than others!
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Blackchipp
Rock Star
Silver Level
no no no...
If u are so angry, you are not prepared to poker.
Just this.
Emotional control is indispensable to a good poker player.
Trust me.
Work your emotional and later come back to poker.
Keep calm and be a champion! GL!
If u are so angry, you are not prepared to poker.
Just this.
Emotional control is indispensable to a good poker player.
Trust me.
Work your emotional and later come back to poker.
Keep calm and be a champion! GL!
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
This is a really good point. In the words of Doyle Brunson "poker is not about winning or losing, its about making the right decisions". With AA the perfect result is to get all the chips in before the flop against one or even multible opponents. So whenever we acheive that result, there is absolutely no reason to be upset.
What should upset us or at least draw our attention is the hands, where we played kind of poorly, or at least we could have taken some different lines, that might have been better. Like for instance this hand from my lastest session:
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Here I took a rather passive line and the plan was to use my hand as a bluff catcher on the river or even let the opponent value own himself with a worse hand. Not an entirely bad plan, but when he overbet the pot, it would have been a good spot for me to rethink my plan. Because he is surely not doing this for value with a worse hand, and how often do people take such a line as a bluff?
The point is, I could have folded here and lost only a very small pot. But instead I made the hero call, and to me this is much more tilting than a bad board runout. Because not only did I allow him to get there, but I also paid him off in a rather big way. These are the kind of hands, we need to focus on, and if we find ourselfes making many mistakes like this in a session, then its time to take a break in order to not allow other people to play with us, when we are not delivering our best performance
spectralwave
Visionary
Bronze Level
It is difficult to say more, losing with AA is horrible and without saying if you are giant and your villain with the same number of stacks and you go to raxa and roll the famous badbeat, turn everything off and I will give a role heheheh
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
Jay R
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I get pissed everytime I lose. But a better question is do you ever fold AA?
Yes… if you’re on the bubble…
I once saw Doyle Brunson fold AK pre flop. Always remember that. WHY?
Didn’t want to risk too much on a draw I suppose.
Yes… if you’re on the bubble…
I once saw Doyle Brunson fold AK pre flop. Always remember that. WHY?
Didn’t want to risk too much on a draw I suppose.
Kenzie 96
Legend
Loyaler
Keep in mind that you are under no obligation to play later. Finding out that you are subject to the same laws of random chance as the rest of the poker community is of course disappointing . Should you continue to be unable to accept this fact, might consider finding another hobby.
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MimiMLZ
Rock Star
Silver Level
Just think of it
It happens quite often, more than you think. It 's part of poker. But it does always hurt. Just think of the day when you are going to crack AA with your KK.
It happens quite often, more than you think. It 's part of poker. But it does always hurt. Just think of the day when you are going to crack AA with your KK.
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TpaEnforcement
Visionary
Bronze Level
Cause i have been playing poker ,for many years. It just becomes easy to get over the hands , you felt that you should have won. Also how you get out of tilt, it happens so much it becomes a part of your mantalentity. You know the strongest hands don't always win. Once you figured that out, tilt will never happen.