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Message: [QUOTE="DrazaFFT, post: 2510461, member: 95100"] from the very beginning ill assume that this guy is OKih after looking at his stats, thus ill also asume that he is positional aware so his opening from BTN will probably be wider than 18/14 probably something like 30% of a hands [B]22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo[/B] since he decided not to 4bet ill asume that he dont have QQ+ AK, arguably maybe decide to flat AK IP but ill keep it this way... his flat range could be something like [B]JJ-22, AQs-ATs, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AQo, KQo[/B] 9% of a hands I intentionally left all pair in there because there are a lot of players at our level that will setmine incorrectly against 3bet Now the tricky part imo is will he stackoff every hand he raise here with, does he have a bluff raise range that he will fold if we stackoff etc, to make this simpliest possible ill asume that he will raise all nut flush draw all overpairs (JJ only) all sets and maybe TPTK [B]JJ,TdTs,TdTc,TsTc,6d6h,6d6s,6h6s,3d3s,3d3c,3s3c,AhQh,AhJh[/B] so its [B][url]http://www.pokerstrategy.com[/url] Board: Th3h6c Equity Win Tie BU 54.21% 54.21% 0.00% { JJ, TdTs, TdTc, TsTc, 6d6h, 6d6s, 6h6s, 3d3s, 3d3c, 3s3c, AhQh, AhJh } SB 45.79% 45.79% 0.00% { KhKs } [/B] since in this scenario you went for stacks and youre slightly underdogg youre ev is (youre_equity x total_pot)-efective_stack so .45x22.36-11.18 so youre EV is bit in a red -$1.19 in a moree likely scenario youll have some fold equity if he decided to raise weaker top pair or two overs you youre final ev will look different with percentage of hands that he folds to your 3bet allin mulitiplied with the pot that youll take unprotected after he folds, add to that the calculation above and youll have real EV of this hand which is IMO fine to gii with... Now after rereading your post, were you considered flatting the raise OOP and calculating the EV of that decision???? [/QUOTE]

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