PLO - Game Theory Optimal

[dorsk]

There are GTO solvers in PLO. But the question is if they’re worth the money.💰

One of the reasons why it’s so hard to create a valuable preflop GTO chart is the sheer number of possible starting hands

With 4 cards instead of 2, there are 270,725 possible starting hands in PLO, compared to just 1,326 in Hold’em.

This means that it’s much harder to categorize hands and assign them to specific ranges in PLO.

As we know PLO is a postflop game unlike Hold’em. I don’t use solvers in PLO, so I can’t conclude whether they bare any value. Looking at my results they’re pretty much the same since GTO kicked in.

How is your take on GTO in PLO?

 

[BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch]

unless youre an omaha specialist and have access to good omaha games then probably not.

nlh is the game of the day. you walk into any poker room and will find a nlh game but you might not have a omaha table going. and sites always have more holdem tables going compared to omaha.

i would learn as much i could learn about the omaha variants before going the gto route. hwang has some good books, advanced poker trainer has an omaha sim version, various sites have omaha vids i mean there is a lot out there on omaha to learn then there's omaha 8 and 5 card.

 

[dorsk]

unless youre an omaha specialist and have access to good omaha games then probably not.

nlh is the game of the day. you walk into any poker room and will find a nlh game but you might not have a omaha table going. and sites always have more holdem tables going compared to omaha.

i would learn as much i could learn about the omaha variants before going the gto route. hwang has some good books, advanced poker trainer has an omaha sim version, various sites have omaha vids i mean there is a lot out there on omaha to learn then there's omaha 8 and 5 card.

25% of cash games are PLO. At the high stakes it’s close to 50%. PLO is in growth. Hold’em the opposite due to solvers. GTO solvers have a hard time in PLO. The future looks good for Omaha. The problem for Average Joe is that he doesn’t have a clue how to play this generously complex game.

Yes, Hwang published sound literature on PLO. So has William Jokusch. Studying hard is necessary to compete in Omaha.

 

[eetenor]

There are GTO solvers in PLO. But the question is if they’re worth the money.💰

One of the reasons why it’s so hard to create a valuable preflop GTO chart is the sheer number of possible starting hands

With 4 cards instead of 2, there are 270,725 possible starting hands in PLO, compared to just 1,326 in Hold’em.

This means that it’s much harder to categorize hands and assign them to specific ranges in PLO.

As we know PLO is a postflop game unlike Hold’em. I don’t use solvers in PLO, so I can’t conclude whether they bare any value. Looking at my results they’re pretty much the same since GTO kicked in.

How is your take on GTO in PLO?

GTO in NLHD is not playable by a human too many inflections. Add 2 cards and any human will make huge errors. There are solvers -they help with heuristics in PLO but they solve vs bot not human. Chaos occurs when humans play solvers hate chaos.

 

[dorsk]

GTO in NLHD is not playable by a human too many inflections. Add 2 cards and any human will make huge errors. There are solvers -they help with heuristics in PLO but they solve vs bot not human. Chaos occurs when humans play solvers hate chaos.

Still, my results in PLO haven’t changed since the solver bots allegedly made such a big impact. Coincidentally?