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How do you see artificial intelligence not poker? Do you see it as a threat or an opportunity. I particularly see it as a threat, as sites can further exploit this resource to place artificial players with capabilities, greater than ours, with high-level plays, without suffering the sentimental damage that we feel at the tables during the plays, where we are forced to do so. to give up our hands.
 
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Artificial intelligence is gradually penetrating into all areas of our lives, nothing can be done about it yet, we will continue to act on the situation.
 
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There have been some threads on this topic. AI is not just the future but already in motion.

I by and large don’t share your fear. No poker site would exploit the players with AI capabilities. If there were the culprit site would soon file for bankrupcy. And gambling is a billion dollar industry.

Furthermore AI would not be able to make high-level plays, let alone make sentimal - I think you mean emotional - damage to you. This is but absurd.

Rest assured that the pokerrooms are already in the process of both protecting the players and develope AI to the benefit of the game and the players.

Ever since The Industrial Revolution pessemists have doomed the machines to take control. Same was said about the internet.

As we know this has not happened. Quite the opposite. The internet made online poker possible.

AI will - since The White Hats have more ressources than The Black Hats - be an even deeper and integral part of the internet.

Let us not forget that governments in at least The Western World have the economic power and the visions to control and progress AI for the greater good. Red China will try to destabilise the West, but I’m pretty sure that Silicon Valley have the upper hand on the communists regarding AI.

Some Black Hats will spend jailtime while private entreprises like poker sites will make poker even more fascinating. To gain more players, a more intuitive UI and of course to make more money.

As you know there is no Dark Blue in poker. And to believe AI could make a Poker Blue is underrating the human brain and creativity.

In due time CC will offer new IA inspired feautures and possibilities for the commonwealth of members. For this I’d take a substantial wager.
 
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There have been some threads on this topic. AI is not just the future but already in motion.

I by and large don’t share your fear. No poker site would exploit the players with AI capabilities. If there were the culprit site would soon file for bankrupcy. And gambling is a billion dollar industry.

Furthermore AI would not be able to make high-level plays, let alone make sentimal - I think you mean emotional - damage to you. This is but absurd.

Rest assured that the pokerrooms are already in the process of both protecting the players and develope AI to the benefit of the game and the players.

Ever since The Industrial Revolution pessemists have doomed the machines to take control. Same was said about the internet.

As we know this has not happened. Quite the opposite. The internet made online poker possible.

AI will - since The White Hats have more ressources than The Black Hats - be an even deeper and integral part of the internet.

Let us not forget that governments in at least The Western World have the economic power and the visions to control and progress AI for the greater good.

Some Black Hats will spend jailtime while private entreprises like poker sites will make poker even more fascinating. To gain more players, a more intuitive UI and of course to make more money.

As you know there is no Dark Blue in poker. And to believe AI could make a Poker Blue is underrating the human brain and creativity.

In due time CC will offer new IA inspired feautures and possibilities for the commonwealth of members. For this I’d take a substantial wager.
This will not age well.
 
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Artificial intelligence (AI) only adds to the studies on solvers, which allow us to analyze how moves should be carried out in more EV+ ways.
In the past, the vast resource of studies that we have today did not exist, and artificial intelligence played its role.
With everything, players who study a lot, solvers will be further ahead of the field, but the last decision is still up to the human, with the concepts acquired in solvers we must remember that we cannot take it literally at the tables because the population does not play oGTO (game perfect).
In relation to boot, serious sites should always check for these types of fraud, what we should do is play on trustworthy sites inspected by supervisory bodies!
 
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Artificial intelligence (AI) only adds to the studies on solvers, which allow us to analyze how moves should be carried out in more EV+ ways.
In the past, the vast resource of studies that we have today did not exist, and artificial intelligence played its role.
With everything, players who study a lot, solvers will be further ahead of the field, but the last decision is still up to the human, with the concepts acquired in solvers we must remember that we cannot take it literally at the tables because the population does not play oGTO (game perfect).
In relation to boot, serious sites should always check for these types of fraud, what we should do is play on trustworthy sites inspected by supervisory bodies!
Well, I play high stakes cash games and I can relate to much of what you write. Especially regarding GTO.

In order to win all high stakers must know GTO by heart. Down to the nitty gritty details. We don’t need no solvers.

The high staker who solely rely on GTO is a loser. The winning players deviate from GTO whenever possible.

Pretty much anything goes for the bold, brave, cunning and highly aggressive player. The caveat is that pretty much anything can go wrong too.

Anyone tells you that cash games at serious levels is gung ho. Then you have a liar. The game is dirty warfare and combatting from street to street. Guts and grinding. True grit.
 
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I see the development of technologies related to artificial intelligence only in a positive light. As for me, artificial intelligence will make the game safer and more convenient. If I know how to earn money now, I hope I can win a few dollars tomorrow :)
 
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How do you see artificial intelligence not poker? Do you see it as a threat or an opportunity. I particularly see it as a threat, as sites can further exploit this resource to place artificial players with capabilities, greater than ours, with high-level plays, without suffering the sentimental damage that we feel at the tables during the plays, where we are forced to do so. to give up our hands.

I too see it as a threat to online poker, but not for the reasons you're suggesting here.

When I'm not playing Lowstakes Cashgame (or micro), I'm actually playing Gazillionaire stakes HU SnGs (why do you think all the regs stopped playing HU SnG? Me.. that's why. And before that it was HU Cash... put Dougie into retirement) So I know what I'm talking about.
 
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How do you see artificial intelligence not poker? Do you see it as a threat or an opportunity. I particularly see it as a threat, as sites can further exploit this resource to place artificial players with capabilities, greater than ours, with high-level plays, without suffering the sentimental damage that we feel at the tables during the plays, where we are forced to do so. to give up our hands.
I see AI as both a threat and an opportunity, depending on how it’s used. It’s true that advanced AI has the potential to outperform human players with precise calculations, lack of emotional bias, and strategic depth. This could make games feel unfair if it leads to the introduction of bots that are impossible to beat.
 
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I too see it as a threat to online poker, but not for the reasons you're suggesting here.

When I'm not playing Lowstakes Cashgame (or micro), I'm actually playing Gazillionaire stakes HU SnGs (why do you think all the regs stopped playing HU SnG? Me.. that's why. And before that it was HU Cash... put Dougie into retirement) So I know what I'm talking about.
So you play lowstakes and midstakes. Best of luck so that you can progress to highstakes. If you play at pokerstars maybe we can meet at i.e. NL1000. Wouldn’t it be fun😊 Are you a man or a mouse?
 
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I see AI as both a threat and an opportunity, depending on how it’s used. It’s true that advanced AI has the potential to outperform human players with precise calculations, lack of emotional bias, and strategic depth. This could make games feel unfair if it leads to the introduction of bots that are impossible to beat.
You mention opportunities. Can you elaborate on that?
 
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So you play lowstakes and midstakes. Best of luck so that you can progress to highstakes. If you play at PokerStars maybe we can meet at i.e. NL1000. Wouldn’t it be fun😊 Are you a man or a mouse?
Poker isn't an ego thing for me. I also don't make a habit of playing where I don't feel I can maximize ev. I have zero desire to move to high stakes & I actually don't even view it as 'progress' for myself. And no I don't play mid-stakes.
I play recreationally & gradually grind up bankrolls. I do have some poker aspirations but they're not high stakes cash & they have nothing to do with trying to or thinking about beating someone else.
Why don't you post up some of your play? Post up some HandHistories. Post up a short vid.? Otherwise honestly I think it's just fallacy... a daydream of your's.
 
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I actually agree with you. “Poker isn’t an ego thing for me,” you write. I share this view. Respect all players and be cordial with all players - but especially those you disagree with.

Disagreement gives food for thoughts and sometimes new knowledge.

No, I don’t reveal my alias. And I have never mentioned winnings by numbers.

If you have your reservations and doubt, I don’t mind. Debi and Tammy know my alias and IRL name. What you think is what you think and must be respected.

I wrote once that I don’t like you. This was a stupid statement. Alas, sometimes my temper goes wild. I read most of your posts with interest. But you have many posts and a very low reaction score percentage. You are said to have the lowest reaction score of all with plus 1000 posts. Seems that most of your posts are ignored. Why is that?
 
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I see AI as both a threat and an opportunity. While it can elevate gameplay analysis and training, the risk of AI bots undermining fair play is real. Transparency and site regulations are crucial to maintain poker’s integrity.
 
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