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Hi all, 1st time describing a hand hope u will understand and have some advises on it or advice with regards the description how to do it correctly .
Cash game 0.10/0.25 My position BB A8o
UTG+1 raised 0,63 I called.
Flop 8Qc and As
I checked , he raised 1.03 I called
turn Kd I checked he raised 3.25 (pot 3.95)
I called
river 4c , I checked he raised 6,25 I called
He had set of QQ.
I should bet from flop as I had two pairs and see if he was re raising me to think as per his position for better Akicker or set ? Should I have fold to river due to 3rd club ?
Kindly advise the weaknesses of my play here
Thank you in advance
 
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I wouldn’t be calling A8o or, better saying, A2o-A9o versus UTG+1 (you are playing a Full-Ring table), unless I have a very specific reading. Against regulars never, against loose passive never and against loose aggressive I would be 3-betting preflop 100% of times, never calling.
As played let me just say that preflop was fine, for we have no information about villain.
On the flop I’m not sure about the eight suit, but as long as we have called, we cannot simply raise here, for villain has all the combos of 88, AA, AK, KK and QQ, and we have only a few combos of 88 and none of the best combos, for if we were holding these combos we would 3-bet preflop, not call preflop (3-bet more often than calling).
You meant to say that you checked and villain had bet, not raised, right? Yes, I think that under this circumstance of having no information about villain is okay to be calling:
Versus regulars, Tight aggressive and tight passive players we are almost never ahead when we check raise this flop, for the range advantage these types of players will have upon us, because we’ve choose not to 3-bet preflop, so it’s kind obvious that we don’t own pretty good hands.
Versus loose passive and loose aggressive if we do elect to raise on the flop their range will be weak and they will fold more than calling with a dominated ace or whatever.
The question is: what is the point of calling out of position holding weak aces? (Rethorical question)
The good part of the hand is that you call all the three streets (flop, turn and river), because your hand was to good to fold once you smash the flop, but are not flying around the world having the cold stoned Nuts. So, it is what it is. I think you shouldn’t raise this hand anytime.
The hand was well played postflop, if I can advise you on something: avoid calling out of position with weak aces: either you 3-bet/4-bet or you fold. And when you elect to play weak aces, try to play suited aces with more equity, e.g: A2s-A5s and ATs-AKs.

P.S: you shouldn’t bet flop or turn “to see” if villain had a better or a worst hand. We do not bet for information, ever, by no means. We bet for value when we do think our hand could get paid for dominated hands and we bet for bluff, when we do think our hand isn’t good but can make better hands to fold. These are the only reasons we put blinds on the pot.

About hand description I would like to summon some mates here in the forum that would love to help you with that. I’m quite sure that either @Tracid or @Chica_bonita can help you with that much better than me!

Best regards;
 
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Thank you a lot for your comments and advised. Appreciate much your time to revert to this in detailed. With your explanation I realized few things that will help
Me in future sessions hands especially for the weak Ace OOP. Thanks again
 
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Is this 9 handed or 6 handed and what are the stack sizes?

Assuming 9 handed I would have to say I dont think it's well played.

Easy fold pre v UTG+1.

Flop call is fine but even by the turn you only have a bluff catcher and which hands in his UTG+1 range is he bluffing with?
Honestly I cant think of any! TT? T9s but it might not even be opened, will he really be turning KJ or KT into a bluff once it turns a K? Does he have any worse value taking this line KQ or AJ - probably not. There is so much AK, AQ that beats you not to mention sets and JT. I know it's hard to fold 2 pair but I think this is the spot to do it.

Then by the river it gets even worse with the flush completing so if you havent folded already definitely fold river. I'm actually surprised he still bets big on this card as you could have flushes that play this way. If you had the Aclubs you could even have considered x-raising as a bluff, it's not clear what your suits are.
 
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You could say to fold after his second bet at the turn. But many times we see an aggressive play because he holds AA, AK, AQ. Generally you risked and lost this time. You payed you risk!
 
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Your passiveness saved you money. If you raised on the flop or turn, he maybe would reraise or jam and you'll be in an awkward spot.
In situations like this, you have to be disciplined and fold if UTG shows aggression.
The only mistake IMO is the call on the river when the flush completes.
 
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I don't know what's your read of your opponent and if this was a 6-max or 9-max table. But in my opinion, I would not call with A8o even in BB in a 6-max table, but the rest of the hand was ok for me.
 
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