Playing QQ or KK in Bodog

[Warui Guy]

Ive read many past post about playing KK or QQ in a cash no limit table, most post replies seem that they haven't experienced the "bodog experience" yet. I play 8-12 hours per day, 7 days a week, 3 tables at time. I have been doing this for over a year. Seems whenever I or someone else has KK or QQ that another person very likely has AA. What should we do when faced with an all in especially preflop ? What if the pot is raised and reraised preflop and the flop comes "9 5 2" rainbow, then faced with an in ? I've seen many replies saying " theres no way in hell " anyone would fold KK preflop or even after the flop with that kind of ugly flop. Then I guess those people haven't played and lost a lot in Bodog yet if they still have that mentality.

It seems Bodog is the place where regulars have come to expect the worst outcome, and with good reason. I also play on Fulltilt, pokerstars etc. but its not that often situations like this come up. I'm not even going to get into how often the swimmers catch their "miracle river card" on Bodog. I and a lot of other get this feeling that a costa rican man sitting on the beach in a shack sipping marguaritas is controlling this game and laughing his ass off. I know thats just nonsense but after seeing this time and time again, its hard not to think someones instigating huge pots.

Just during the time I was writing this post, (I was writing this while playing in bodog) It has happened to me again. I could show hundreds of these instances.

Ps. I last thing, its funny how I can get the same exact 2 hole in 2 rooms I am playing at the exact same time and funny how the flop is a lot of times the same also. Anybody smell what I smell ?

 

[stormswa]

 

[bw07507]

Ive played well over 30K hands at bodog and sometimes when I have QQ or KK, someone has aces, most of the time they havent. Sometimes it happens. At Pokerstars, the last 2 times I have been dealt KK Ive gotten it all in preflop vs AA. It is just unlucky that sometimes this happens. Also, live I have seen KK vs AA numerous times, so no, bodog is not rigged, lol.

 

[vanquish]

Seems that whenever I wear a hat to go play live, the guy to my left also wears a hat (sometimes even the same color!). Anyone smell what I smell?

 

[Jack Daniels]

Obv it is statistically impossible for one player to have AA when another one has either KK or QQ....

 

[Warui Guy]

Considering Bodog supposedly uses a random number generator. What are the odds of having the exact the 2 same hole on different tables at the exact same time and often having the same cards flop with different suits ? Also something to consider : what about the rest of the 100's of games going that I cant watch ? For all we know, 50 games could have the same flop at the same time, if that could be proven, something funny is going on.

 

[Jack Daniels]

Correct. It is statistically impossible to be dealt the same two hole cards in two different hands on two different tables. In fact, it's highly unlikely that even one other person out of the 24354325345325432 that are playing at the same time would even have the same two cards as you.

 

[Warui Guy]

Sometimes this can be used to your advantage. If u see the flop happening at both tables is the same a lot of the times, you can sometimes almost predict what is going to flop on the other and if you should play the hole you are dealt or not. Example : table#1 flops 656, you are holding 65 for your hole cards on table#2 and are faced with a small raise preflop, In that case, id make the call and see a flop, a lot of times it does work. Make any sense ? lol

 

[stormswa]

Sometimes this can be used to your advantage. If u see the flop happening at both tables is the same a lot of the times, you can sometimes almost predict what is going to flop on the other and if you should play the hole you are dealt or not. Example : table#1 flops 656, you are holding 65 for your hole cards on table#2 and are faced with a small raise preflop, In that case, id make the call and see a flop, a lot of times it does work. Make any sense ? lol

no.

 

[Jack Daniels]

no.

^^^

That logic isn't even close to making sense much less being sane.

 

[stormswa]

^^^

That logic isn't even close to making sense much less being sane.

^^^

and I agree with JD agreeing with me.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Anybody smell what I smell ?

...another crappy "ZOMG ONLIEN POKAR IS RIGGED" thread? Yeah.

 

[Dotde]

Considering Bodog supposedly uses a random number generator. What are the odds of having the exact the 2 same hole on different tables at the exact same time and often having the same cards flop with different suits ?

When it comes to computers and programming, there is absolutely NO SUCH THING as "random." Hard to explain why, but basically stored in the memory of a computer is a predetermined set of numbers, and depending on the "random()" calls in a program (in this case, Bodog's poker client), the processor takes the next number in line to be called, and then dishes out whichever card corresponds to that number. In this case, it'd be safe to assume the set of "random" numbers is from 0-51, one for each of the 52 cards in the deck.

Every individual hand (for instance, Kh/2d) has approx. a 1/2652 chance of appearing... the odds of getting the same exact hand twice in a row is about 1/7033104... but for everyone who's take a probability course will remember that every occurance is independent of every other occurance... meaning it is possible to get the same hand eighty times in one day, and then turn around and not get that hand again for three years.

So basically my point for writing all this junk is that when it seems like an online game is "rigged," it's possibly true. Not because the game favors one player over another, but because of the predetermined set of numbers/cards that is passed off as "random" really isn't "random."

 

[broncos53]

Sometimes this can be used to your advantage. If u see the flop happening at both tables is the same a lot of the times, you can sometimes almost predict what is going to flop on the other and if you should play the hole you are dealt or not. Example : table#1 flops 656, you are holding 65 for your hole cards on table#2 and are faced with a small raise preflop, In that case, id make the call and see a flop, a lot of times it does work. Make any sense ? lol

So if table one flops 656 and your holding 65 on table 2 are you going to call an all in...your basically saying your going to put money on what happened on 1 table out of the 10000 that are running at the same time...theres no way you could ever have a coincidence like that...nope never....

 

[Warui Guy]

So if table one flops 656 and your holding 65 on table 2 are you going to call an all in...your basically saying your going to put money on what happened on 1 table out of the 10000 that are running at the same time...theres no way you could ever have a coincidence like that...nope never....

Thats not what I meant, I'm not calling an all in with rubbish, but will see a flop and call a small raise. If you play as many tables and hours per day as I do, then you would take notice of these things yourself. Obviously you dont.

 

[stormswa]

Thats not what I meant, I'm not calling an all in with rubbish, but will see a flop and call a small raise. If you play as many tables and hours per day as I do, then you would take notice of these things yourself. Obviously you dont.

:top:

 

[broncos53]

Thats not what I meant, I'm not calling an all in with rubbish, but will see a flop and call a small raise. If you play as many tables and hours per day as I do, then you would take notice of these things yourself. Obviously you dont.

i do play alot everyday i just dont see how you can say your going to call a raise based on what happened on a different table thats silly...

 

[stormswa]

i do play alot everyday i just dont see how you can say your going to call a raise based on what happened on a different table thats silly...

its best not to argue common sense. :smile:

 

[Jack Daniels]

I just played a hand and was dealt the [Ah] and the flop had the [Ad]. Believe it or not, in the next hand the [Ah] was in the flop and I had the [Ad] in my hand. Unreal.

 

[broncos53]

I just played a hand and was dealt the A♥ and the flop had the A♦. Believe it or not, in the next hand the A♥ was in the flop and I had the A♦ in my hand. Unreal.

Lol you are definatly a funny guy lol!

 

[Warui Guy]

Ah, now I remember why I and others hesitate to post anything on here, 13 wise ass answer remarks, 3 good responses. Bad odds. Enough said, tell moderator to delete entire thing.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Closed with pleasure.

You got stick because we've had about 549769638567824569854672954624576254682749 "ONLIEN POKAR IS RIGED" threads before. They bore us.

Also you playing 8 hrs a day 7 days a week at a place you think is rigged is pretty hilarious.