Online cash low stakes rake question

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Can anyone tell me how much rake you pay in low stakes cash games say on party. How is it worked out, It’s only paid on played hands right?! Is it a % of the pot? Does it change depending on the size of the pot? Do you only pay rake if you see a flop?

Basically party have changed up their cashback and promos so if you are a low stakes player you will get erm nothing, taken 2 levels of cashback and replaced with ‘cases’ that give you 0.01c tickets that expire before there’s a game but just started this cash promo - To get rewards you earn points - 1 point for every $1 rake paid - first reward at 250 points (10p$) I’m guessing that’s about 2.5k you’d have to win/stake to pay $250 rake?

I’m not clued up on rake and only really play 1/2c or 5/10c max fast forward (struggling with getting distracted lately) and it suits me to drop in and out and not have to wait!
 

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Most sites rake 5 -7 % of all called bets in online ring games . There should be a max cap amount , like 2 bucks at the tiniest stakes and so on . Good luck ...nowadays almost all small stakes poker games are unbeatable long term due to the rake , live or online !
 
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As explained by RENEY444 most sites charge a percentage of each pot, that goes postflop, up to a certain amount like $1.5 or whatever. The most common online rake is 5%, and I have never heard of 7%. As far as I know, only GG Poker charge rake of pots, that end preflop. A 5% rake is beatable in the micros with a bit of table selection. It is going to eat significantly into your winrate though, which is one of the reasons, I personally moved to tournaments.
 
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RENNY444 mostly explained it well enough. I don't agree and 20+ years experience and facts proves micro/low stakes to still be plenty beatable(at least at pokerstars)despite the rake. Pick a style/game of poker you can beat and play it to death. Stay far away from others, their sports betting and the casino. For me it's full-ring cash and longer blind/normal/slow speed MTT's.

Don't how well unkept the numbers/percentages on this website are. https://www.primedope.com/online-poker-rake-comparison-rake-calculator/

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At micro-limit tables, the rake is usually a small percentage of the pot and is relatively low, such as 2% or 3% of the pot. This is done to make the game accessible to beginning players with limited bankrolls.online poker fees are similar to live games, but they may also include low take-home percentages or offer loyalty programs and rakeback for players.Aggressive Players: Micro stakes often have tables with aggressive players who may make unpredictable bets and raises. This will make the game more challenging as it is harder to evaluate their hand and make decisions.
 
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RENNY444 mostly explained it well enough. I don't agree and 20+ years experience and facts proves micro/low stakes to still be plenty beatable(at least at Pokerstars)despite the rake. Pick a style/game of poker you can beat and play it to death. Stay far away from others, their sports betting and the casino. For me it's full-ring cash and longer blind/normal/slow speed MTT's.

Don't how well unkept the numbers/percentages on this website are. https://www.primedope.com/online-poker-rake-comparison-rake-calculator/

Cheers!!!
I agree micro stakes on party poker fast forward is profitable for me anyways
 
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rake is the way they rob people at online poker sites charge absurd, ggpoker at least give flipouts.
 
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Basically party have changed up their cashback and promos so if you are a low stakes player you will get erm nothing, taken 2 levels of cashback and replaced with ‘cases’ that give you 0.01c tickets that expire before there’s a game but just started this cash promo - To get rewards you earn points - 1 point for every $1 rake paid - first reward at 250 points (10p$) I’m guessing that’s about 2.5k you’d have to win/stake to pay $250 rake?
I didn't even realize that they'd changed their Cashback/Reward system. And just now, looking at the new setup I have to say "It is TERRIBLE!" (and looking at my 'Cashback History' I'm just now finally realizing they've implemented this quite awhile ago). I actually played a bit on there in 2024 and going over my Cashback History I just now am understanding how much $$'s I've been ripped off for. On weeks where I'd paid $200 in rake I'd previously get $40 cash back and now looking I see they've only given me $10, lol.

I didn't receive any notice of it changing. I haven't played much on partypoker lately but did notice that there aren't many players on their micro tables these days. I was planning on making a deposit on Partypoker this week with plans of playing on there more often but now I'm not so sure I will be.

Their old rakeback system was 20% rakeback straight across the board unless you qualified for Diamond rakeback where you could get up to 40% rakeback. Now it seems you need to rake $1,200/week to be able to get 20% rakeback. (pretty sure you'd be getting double the rakeback on GG).
Partypoker's rakeback structure was one of the good things that site had going for it. I can't believe they've chosen to adopt this new B.S. one.
 
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I didn't even realize that they'd changed their Cashback/Reward system. And just now, looking at the new setup I have to say "It is TERRIBLE!" (and looking at my 'Cashback History' I'm just now finally realizing they've implemented this quite awhile ago). I actually played a bit on there in 2024 and going over my Cashback History I just now am understanding how much $$'s I've been ripped off for. On weeks where I'd paid $200 in rake I'd previously get $40 cash back and now looking I see they've only given me $10, lol.

I didn't receive any notice of it changing. I haven't played much on Partypoker lately but did notice that there aren't many players on their micro tables these days. I was planning on making a deposit on Partypoker this week with plans of playing on there more often but now I'm not so sure I will be.

Their old rakeback system was 20% rakeback straight across the board unless you qualified for Diamond rakeback where you could get up to 40% rakeback. Now it seems you need to rake $1,200/week to be able to get 20% rakeback. (pretty double the rakeback on GG).
Partypoker's rakeback structure was one of the good things that site had going for it. I can't believe they've chosen to adopt this new B.S. one.
It happened about a month ago I think, when they started the ‘party cases’ promotion and I can’t find ANY notification about the changes. I just saw one day my little cashback gauge was on £2 and it was like Monday and I only play microstakes so max I used to get was like £5 but mostly £1-2, but it all counts right. Then I realised I hadn’t hit the 50p, £1, £1.50 etc it now starts at £2 and to earn £2 you need to pay £25 in rake (1 point = £1 rake). And after that the next level is £5 where you need to pay £50 in rake. I was kind of going off youd get £10 rake for £110 spend (£11 tourneys being 10+1 ish) so to now get £2 cash back I’d be expected to bet £250 A WEEK? Otherwise there is no loyalty reward anymore for smaller players like myself.”.

In its place I assume is Party cases. You earn cases for rake again, but these cases are 1000x worse than the coffins introduced by PokerStars when they revamped their loyalty program. I mean bronze cases mostly contain 0.01c specific tourney tickets - usually phase tickets with auto-reg, which means you have to be able you play for hours if you beat the phases. It also means if you don’t play MTTs they are useless, I’ve also caught them rewarding tickets for series that are finished and the tickets expire in 3 days yet there’s no game for 30 days. There are also $0.11 and $0.22 tickets. Then you’d expect better in the bronze, silver and gold cases right? Wrong. Same 0.01/0.11 phase tickets. You might get a 0.55c phase ticket or get this 0.25 or 0.5 loyalty points - yes a quarter or a half a loyalty point which is now completely unobtainable to those who would even be bothering opening those cases.

At the same time as this they have tightened their ‘safer gambling’ rules and limits. So on one hand telling you to gamble responsibly on the other making you have to gamble much more to progress in the promotions.

I would also urge everyone to screenshot ANY prize you get awarded and make sure it’s credited. My partner got 3 x $1.10 tickets from the gold box that never showed up, after the first he screenshot so I could claim it back.

Don’t even get me started on the casino bonuses. You win them in the poker App but they apply them to the casino app that no one has a clue about - 3 free spins may not seem worth the hassle - but twice free spins have netted me £250 from a zero balance.

It’s an absolute joke. And no one seems to have noticed
 
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It happened about a month ago I think, when they started the ‘party cases’ promotion and I can’t find ANY notification about the changes. I just saw one day my little cashback gauge was on £2 and it was like Monday and I only play microstakes so max I used to get was like £5 but mostly £1-2, but it all counts right. Then I realised I hadn’t hit the 50p, £1, £1.50 etc it now starts at £2 and to earn £2 you need to pay £25 in rake (1 point = £1 rake). And after that the next level is £5 where you need to pay £50 in rake. I was kind of going off youd get £10 rake for £110 spend (£11 tourneys being 10+1 ish) so to now get £2 cash back I’d be expected to bet £250 A WEEK? Otherwise there is no loyalty reward anymore for smaller players like myself.”.

In its place I assume is Party cases. You earn cases for rake again, but these cases are 1000x worse than the coffins introduced by PokerStars when they revamped their loyalty program. I mean bronze cases mostly contain 0.01c specific tourney tickets - usually phase tickets with auto-reg, which means you have to be able you play for hours if you beat the phases. It also means if you don’t play MTTs they are useless, I’ve also caught them rewarding tickets for series that are finished and the tickets expire in 3 days yet there’s no game for 30 days. There are also $0.11 and $0.22 tickets. Then you’d expect better in the bronze, silver and gold cases right? Wrong. Same 0.01/0.11 phase tickets. You might get a 0.55c phase ticket or get this 0.25 or 0.5 loyalty points - yes a quarter or a half a loyalty point which is now completely unobtainable to those who would even be bothering opening those cases.

At the same time as this they have tightened their ‘safer gambling’ rules and limits. So on one hand telling you to gamble responsibly on the other making you have to gamble much more to progress in the promotions.

I would also urge everyone to screenshot ANY prize you get awarded and make sure it’s credited. My partner got 3 x $1.10 tickets from the gold box that never showed up, after the first he screenshot so I could claim it back.

Don’t even get me started on the casino bonuses. You win them in the poker app but they apply them to the casino app that no one has a clue about - 3 free spins may not seem worth the hassle - but twice free spins have netted me £250 from a zero balance.

It’s an absolute joke. And no one seems to have noticed

They may as well have no rakeback at all. This new arrangement they have sounds pathetic :(

I just looked back through my Cashback history. The cases started a month ago as you mentioned but it seems the reduction in Rakeback happened quite awhile ago (at least on my account it did).
ie. Apr. 29 - May 05 124.07 pts. I received $5 (previously at the standard 20% rakeback they had, this would be $25)

Some other examples:
May 27 - Jun 02 84.16 Pts. I received $4 (I believe that should've been $17)

A week in April 166.46 Pts. I received $7.50 (should've been $33)
 
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I plaScreenHunter 22837yed a bit yesterday and today. And I 'Banked' $2 rakeback! What a ripoff
 
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