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Blintzblyck
Rock Star
Silver Level
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Tommyc9494
Rock Star
Silver Level
I get what you mean I prefer SNG and MTT over cash games myself but not necessarily for the same reason I find it takes a lot longer to make money at a cash table than a sng but I opt to play cash games as they suit my life style better.
Sometimes I can only play for 10mins before I have to sit out or even leave the table all together and that’s just not an option during a tournament.
I guess what I’m trying to say is play what suits your style and lifestyle the best
Sometimes I can only play for 10mins before I have to sit out or even leave the table all together and that’s just not an option during a tournament.
I guess what I’m trying to say is play what suits your style and lifestyle the best
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
Unfortunately I am currently in a similar situation. I'd prefer to play MTT's but the time commitment is HUGE! Quite often I'll have played cash game for 6 to 8hrs. and could've played the MTT's but how could I know this in advance, lol. ... sigh Maybe I'll give them a go today!
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
Not sure why you'd be needing a 'pot odds calculator' for MTT & SNG play. Perhaps you're referring to an equity calculator? (I mean 'pot odds', this is simple calculations). Equity calculators are FORBIDDEN to use during the game.
I'd suggest marking and reviewing hands after the game. After a gazillion hands analyzed, it will become close to 2nd nature on the tables.
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Tommyc9494
Rock Star
Silver Level
I wish I could find the time to get a 6 hour session in 2 hours is good going for me atm. Slowly but surely my bankroll is going up though which is the main thing.
jleon_zat
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I'm still the same I don't see results from playing cash games:/ either I'm very bad or they always send me lower cards than the others, for example they send me AA and they get trios or doubles or ome they send straight and give it a flush hahaha it's funny or sometimes I think conspiracy
StArDemonn
Visionary
Silver Level
I quit cash games simply because I can t beat the games not because I played bad simply I can t win an all in, AK vs AK villain won with flush all in pre, AA vs AK he made a straight all in pre, 44 vs KK all in on turn I had a set and villain shoved, ( had 90% to win the hand but K on river and he won), AK vs 33 i squuez and villain went all in with 33 and won, flush vs flush, set vs set, straight vs bigger straight, I lost with quads vs royal straight flush had like 99% on that hand when villain shoved and he made the royal straight flush on river, etc. Not every hand was all in pre but when I shoved or call a shoved I had like 90% on every hand, they were always behind but still won every single hand. I run like these for days I don t remember how many times my AA got cracked by AK KK QQ, these were standard situations but I couldnt won with AA a single hand.
dreamer13
Legend
Platinum Level
Cash games can be divided into two types of poker games: Full Ring and 6-Max. Both cash games are played at the same table, but the participation of many players changes their bluffs and winning opportunities. The poker cash game format is quite popular with beginner poker players who are still learning it because it provides additional security. The security system is the maximum buy placed even in a no-limit or pot-limit cash game. There you can lose everything in 5 minutes, you get a straight, and your opponent has a full house.
nasty bent gorilla
Visionary
Platinum Level
If losing, only play one table at a time. No disgrace in losing as poker is very hard. combine 50/50 poker study with playing until you beat the game. Knowledge more important in long run.
zwbb
Legend
Bronze Level
Or later you will find yourself at the point of your poker career where you will have to choose the main discipline. Of course, this does not mean that if you choose cash, you will never play in tournaments. It's just that you will devote 90% of your time devoted to play and learning to your main discipline.
"Scattering" at the beginning of training your attention and time on different formats of poker, you will become, as the British put it, "an apprentice in everything, a master in nothing"
"Scattering" at the beginning of training your attention and time on different formats of poker, you will become, as the British put it, "an apprentice in everything, a master in nothing"
Dobbler1
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Tournament and cash games aren't the same, but the fundamentals are. Competition is generally softer at the lowest level tourney play but as noted the time commitment versus profit, assuming you win more than you loose, is very poor.
If you want to work on your game, change what you do, and become better, low buy-in tournament poker is the lowest risk, lowest reward way to do that, but it also gives you the least incentive to improve. Tourneys can also give you a messed up sense of how good you are. If you go on a heater and start catching cards, you can do very well in a tourney or two, even if you make poor decisions, or vice versa you can play well for long stretches and either never make the money or squeak into thew money infrequently enough to make be a losing player, even if you play decently. Variance, and therefore luck, has a much stronger effect in tournament play.
I used to be intimidated by cash games, and here's how I decided to look at it. If I want to be serious about playing, I should put myself in the situation where I can assess my game the best, and that pushes me to be better. That's the cash game for me, and it has made me work harder on my game and become a better player. Everyone has to make their own decisions and do what's best for themselves, but I found that asking myself the question about how serious I was made a big difference to the decision I made.
If you want to work on your game, change what you do, and become better, low buy-in tournament poker is the lowest risk, lowest reward way to do that, but it also gives you the least incentive to improve. Tourneys can also give you a messed up sense of how good you are. If you go on a heater and start catching cards, you can do very well in a tourney or two, even if you make poor decisions, or vice versa you can play well for long stretches and either never make the money or squeak into thew money infrequently enough to make be a losing player, even if you play decently. Variance, and therefore luck, has a much stronger effect in tournament play.
I used to be intimidated by cash games, and here's how I decided to look at it. If I want to be serious about playing, I should put myself in the situation where I can assess my game the best, and that pushes me to be better. That's the cash game for me, and it has made me work harder on my game and become a better player. Everyone has to make their own decisions and do what's best for themselves, but I found that asking myself the question about how serious I was made a big difference to the decision I made.
Gallarado777
Legend
Bronze Level
why are you upset with cash games for money what is the reason you lost money quickly is because you didn't know the value of the pot I think it's not enough to lose a lot of money maybe you still lacked something else share with us
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Station_Master
Legend
Platinum Level
As you say you need to play well, but you don't need to be amazing to beat low stakes cash games as there are plenty of bad players out there willing to donate their stacks to you. Patience and discipline are important as well as a sound strategy
Cash games play very different to tournaments, I like both but prefer cash as you can play and sit out easily instead of being time committed plus much more post flop play which I find more interesting than short stack poker
kaynbergo
Rock Star
Platinum Level
the situation is the same, even if at the beginning of the game at the cash table I go to the plus, at the end of the game I lose the whole buy-in, but in tournaments I have a completely different situation, as if two different pokers
coolDadJimbo
Rock Star
Silver Level
i prefer cash as i can sit or leave whenever i want. and i can table select.
cash is a deepstack game, where you can play more drawing/speculative hands.
tourneys are short stack, so they require more push/fold decisions and are more of a gamble whre you are forced to be more committed to your hands.
i think with cash you can book more winning sessions, which is also a little easier on the psyche
in both games i prefer to display my stack in BB rather than the dollar amount. i do this for several reasons:
- easier to quickly calculate pot odds
- easier to size cbets when consdering spr at the river
- i like to do this when moving up stakes, so my brain doesn't get hung up on the dollar amounts. i just focus on the BB, SPR and the math.
rock on superstar
cash is a deepstack game, where you can play more drawing/speculative hands.
tourneys are short stack, so they require more push/fold decisions and are more of a gamble whre you are forced to be more committed to your hands.
i think with cash you can book more winning sessions, which is also a little easier on the psyche
in both games i prefer to display my stack in BB rather than the dollar amount. i do this for several reasons:
- easier to quickly calculate pot odds
- easier to size cbets when consdering spr at the river
- i like to do this when moving up stakes, so my brain doesn't get hung up on the dollar amounts. i just focus on the BB, SPR and the math.
rock on superstar
liuouhgkres
Visionary
Bronze Level
I'm the opposite. I stopped playing tournaments because of a huge variance. You can play your A game and lose for 3-4 months straight. It all depends on how you run on the final table. In cash games if you are beating the field you very rarely will have a losing month.
Dailon Arroyo Blandon
Legend
Bronze Level
I play in both ..... after having a car accident that left me away from poker for almost 2 years ... this new year I returned to it ... and I'm going to start taking level again ... so I'll play the free tournaments that this wonderful community offers us and I have started 3 days ago playing cash at the 0.01/0.02 tables for the moment I am doing well ... and what I am looking for is to resume my poker rhythm ... and little by little to go increasing my bank