Nutted Equity versus Equity Distribution

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A Retort to Nutted Equity Advantage Theory

To include extremities in dictating our strategy (Nutted Range Advantage) is similar to playing scared
When 160+ combos are possible, but theory guides you play to nutted range advantage.
Causeing biggerbet sizings for your range bets due to what a player would do with 8 of those combos of 160+
Though when we analyze the solver in specific spots it does not make those range bets, but rather chooses specific spots to bet bigger ( such as 1010 77 33 aa or 22 rather than a range of j9s k10s+)
So why do we justify continuing this logic of nutted range advantage when we know its a fallacy of logic



Overestimating Nutted Equity advantages

Nutted Equity Advantage states that only 1 player has the possibility of holding the nuts like 1010 77 33 on a 10 7 3 board
but due to the many strategys employed and the spectrum of player styles
How can you say any player couldn't have the same nuts in any specific spot?
Especially in theory in 2024
Doesn't every hand have a chance to be dealt every hand?
no matter if you are the SB BB or the cutoff
If the cutoff gets dealt AA does that reduce the chance of the BB having been dealt AA as well?
thats the gamblers fallacy in definition
those 4 aces could land anywhere and where you found those 2 does not mean it lessens the chance of the other two being anywhere
If you continue without the gamblers fallacy
then every chance is independent of the other
To say the BB doesn't have the nut advantage is false in some sense in modern theory


What the BB has in spades is range distribution advantage
What I mean by this is.

the amount of combos the cutoff raises with comparable to the board has a calculable equity we can punch into flopzilla and calculate our equity versus said BB range
seeing combos versus pot equity on various streets reveals some juicy information
most equity comes from having the nuts on the flop and if they don't have it the equity drops significantly by the river

Include more combos and it becomes bluff city

We calculate the BB's equity vs the Cutoff by calculating the BB's entire range
Meaning we could be always be drastically underestimating the BB's equity in real but look fine in theory based poker, due to our inclusion of every possibility and mathematical outlier

The BB has a range distributed to him
and it has every hand possible

So how does the cutoff have a nutted range advantage against the BB?
it doesn't



it has a nutted range Distribution advantage
That includes extremeities of high equity nutted hands and TONs of low equity hands to avg out very low
In math we would call these outliers and in some cases not calculate them at all into further equations



We are mistakenly translating our nutted advantage into strategy's and Theory's I believe they don't belong
and my opinion ... the biggest piece of the puzzle missing is Equity Distribution and formulas
 
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I propose a new concept is open for theory creation
Unexpected Value
 
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I propose a new concept is open for theory creation
Unexpected Value
Unexpected value means,
play Guess The Outcome,
so All In with any 2 every hand, just joking. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Lets hope the nutted range distribution is on your side, or the force, poker gods, or whatever superstition helps. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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Does all that theory matter at the levels most of us play?
What levels do you play at that make the theory viable. As Splitsuit says, most times, equity doesn't matter.
 
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Does all that theory matter at the levels most of us play?
What levels do you play at that make the theory viable. As Splitsuit says, most times, equity doesn't matter.


My level
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I gotta stop f^cking with puzzles

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It is Desire
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Does all that theory matter at the levels most of us play?
What levels do you play at that make the theory viable. As Splitsuit says, most times, equity doesn't matter.
I do not play poker at any level
I study every level and player type to become the greatest
It is viable when competing against the worlds best in game theory
It is even more viable when the theory , can in turn , create new strategy's ranges and fundamentals

This thread was made for the best in the world to read and enjoy
 
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Nutted Equity Advantage states that only 1 player has the possibility of holding the nuts like 1010 77 33 on a 10 7 3 board
but due to the many strategys employed and the spectrum of player styles
How can you say any player couldn't have the same nuts in any specific spot?

This is an untruth as stated above- advantage means only that I have the nuts 51% or more of the time you have it 49% or less -N E A never states only one player can have the nuts---wherever you got this data don't bother with it it is bad data.
 
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